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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Aviation Lawsuits (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
2. 11:17 AM - Re: fly-ins (Michael W Meyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Aviation Lawsuits |
Don't get me wrong, there is a time and place for everything. At this
place and time, educating GE on how to be successful is in ALL our best
interests.
-----Original Message-----
From: rcmutz@msn.com
Sent: Sat, 5 May 2007 6:17 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aviation Lawsuits
<rcmutz@msn.com>
Gary,
I agree with you a 100%. Usually when I have a problem, I keep working
with the company and up the chain until I get resolution that I feel
comfortable with, and this usually works. Only one time did I actually
sue someone. That was when I put a deposit down for a painting my
plane, the guy went out of business (ask Sandbag about it..), and I put
a suit in so if and when he finally files bankruptcy, I may get 10
cents on the dollar back. From what I have heard, he has run out of the
state, owes the state back taxes, and will never return, so I don't
really expect to get anything back, but hey, it made me feel
comfortable. Sea le vi...
Richard Mutzman
N399RM
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I've been to a number of fly-ins, including Oshkosh at both the main field
and Fond du Lac, Sun-n-Fun, AOPA, and some local events. My observation is
that things tend to run smoothly / safely at the extreme ends of the range,
and get disorganized / scary in the middle of the range.
At OSH, they've been doing it long enough and enough people are involved
with enough interest in everything going well, that it is well-planned and
well-organized. There is the occasional glitch, but it's occasional and
generally minor, and any real accident (like the T6 last summer) attracts a
lot of attention because it is so rare.
The biggest problems at OSH seem to be pilots who don't read or understand
the NOTAM. It's kind of large, but well-presented and logical, if you spend
some time studying it. I always print it out in a half-page booklet and
highlight the important-to-check-in-flight things like frequencies and
checkpoints.
I think that everyone is concerned about being the bozo who screws it up, so
nearly everyone does understand and follow the procedures. I'm actually
impressed how well it works.
My biggest pet peeve at OSH is the grass taxiway surfaces. They're uneven
enough that the tiger with a load of camping gear in back can get a kind of
harmonic bounce going with the nose gear. They like you to taxi a bit fast
there, which makes it worse, and sometimes I just have to stop to damp the
oscillation. I wish they'd roll out the grass taxiways to smooth them out,
but I guess that's a minor thing.
The small local events seem to just not attract enough traffic to overload
the normal ability of people to stay alert and work out the right thing to
do, so with a little advance planning and thought about easing the flow, it
works out ok.
Scary things happen in the middle. S-n-F has (IMHO) a really poor arrival
procedure, with indistinct landmarks and a structure that encourages cutting
the corners. Real easy to get the sequencing confused.
I guess that since it's not "the big show," there's a significant number of
pilots who either don't know about or don't care about the notam, and just
kind of blunder in announcing their arrival and asking what to do. What
makes it worse is that the controllers will talk them through it. (If you do
that at OSH, they'll tell you the notam is available at x, y, and z
airports, so go land there and read it.) Lots of chatter and confusion.
Once you arrive at S-n-F, you find that the parking / camping area is pretty
poorly prepared. It's evident to me that they consider the folks who drive
in with their big camper vans and RVs (not the planes) to be their main
customer base, as that's where all the amenities are.
I really like airplane camping, and I think that the tiger is especially
well-suited for it (as long as you're not thinking backwoods strips). I got
turned on to it at Oshkosh, and would highly encourage any competent pilot
to make the trip. It's a ton of fun, and the best part is just being
immersed in aviation - sitting next to your cooler enjoying a cold soda pop
watching the airshow, waking up in your tent to the sound of big radial
engines, all that good stuff. The smaller events are fun as well, and
heading out on your own is best of all.
Michael
----- Original Message -----
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>
> Time: 08:59:44 AM PST US
> From: "Steve Roberts" <aa1bflyboy@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Corvairs
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>
> Wow I did not know that. I'll keep that in mind. If I do go back to OSH
> I'll
> break the arm of any groundspeople who want to help me push my plane.
>
> If I'm right I have no need to be angry;
> If I'm wrong I have no right to be...
> Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: <923te@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Corvairs
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>
> Just a heads up on Fon Du Lac. Lot's of war birds land there.
>
> I think Oshkosh is safer to land at then Fon Du Lac. Osh has many more
> volunteers helping. I watched a P51 taxi right into a brand new Commander
> 114 at Fon Du Lac. The rudder went staight up about 300'. It was a clean
> cut
> leaving no damage to the vertical stabilizer OR the propeller on the P51
>
> In any event Osh approach and landing is an unforgettable experience. I've
> done it 4 times, 3 of those in my Tiger
>
>
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