---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/25/07: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:36 AM - Re: New Cowling Status? (Mark Thomas Mueller) 2. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: New Cowling Status? (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:02 AM PST US From: "Mark Thomas Mueller" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: New Cowling Status? Thanks for the cowling update, Gary. Sorry, but now that I have your attention I have a few more questions! 1) Is it your intent to produce the cowling for the 4-bangers on-demand? Since there are only a couple 6-bangers around, this sounds like custom work only... 2) Are you still looking at $5 - $6K per cowling? 3) First I heard about new wheel pants. Great idea! Sign me up on your waiting list. Are you going to put some kind of access for easier air fills? 4) Are you ever going to put together a baffling kit based on your beautiful work displayed on your website? I live and work in VA, and don't have the time to ferry 33R to the west coast for your personal expertise, but desperately need an upgrade in baffling. 5) On your website you mention cutting back the baffling straps on 3 & 4 for better cooling. Do you have any photos of this operation for guidance? Since it looks like we are going to have to suck up either higher user fees, or higher gas taxes, or both, I have reconsidered upgrading aircraft and probably going to stick with my Tiger for another 10 years. Having said that, I am now thinking about your new cowling with the MT 3-bladed prop... TIA... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:00 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: New Cowling Status? >1) Is it your intent to produce the cowling for the 4-bangers on-demand? >Since there are only a couple 6-bangers around, this sounds like custom work >only... - - - - the tooling was made to make it possible to produce either cowling. >2) Are you still looking at $5 - $6K per cowling? - - - - The initial buy-in for the pre-production cowling is $6000. Once they are certified, my costs go up by a factor of 3. The guy fabricating the cowlings promissed me the first 5 will be at a discounted rate to help me recover cost. There is no way I can recover the $75,000 I have invested in 5 cowlings. I still plan on keeping the cost of the next 10 to around $8000. If the price has to go up, it has to go up. >3) First I heard about new wheel pants. Great idea! Sign me up on your >waiting list. Are you going to put some kind of access for easier air >fills? - - - - Everyone wants to be able to put air in easily. I don't think there is any problem with the current design. We'll see. >4) Are you ever going to put together a baffling kit based on your >beautiful work displayed on your website? I live and work in VA, and don't >have the time to ferry 33R to the west coast for your personal expertise, >but desperately need an upgrade in baffling. - - - - I made baffles and baffle seals for a guy in New Hampshire. He sent me all his stuff and I built the baffles. I'm sure if you follow the pics (oh, and, by-the-way, I have an updated page for baffle installations. It may be a while until it's on the web though.) >5) On your website you mention cutting back the baffling straps on 3 & 4 >for better cooling. Do you have any photos of this operation for guidance? - - - - other than the close-ups of the baffles. No. >Since it looks like we are going to have to suck up either higher user fees, >or higher gas taxes, or both, I have reconsidered upgrading aircraft and >probably going to stick with my Tiger for another 10 years. Having said >that, I am now thinking about your new cowling with the MT 3-bladed prop... - - - - The 3-bladed prop won't really get you $15,000 worth of savings. When I flew to Auburn with Brian in his plane, at the same speed & rpm (or props are matched exactly) I was get 1 to 1.8 gallons per hour less than he was. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.