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1. 08:19 AM - AYA 2007 via New York City (David Feinstein)
2. 08:25 AM - Re: AYA 2007 via New York City (Steve Roberts)
3. 08:43 AM - Re: AYA 2007 via New York City (mattd)
4. 08:56 AM - Re: AYA 2007 via New York City (Daniel Brodsky)
5. 10:22 AM - Re: AYA 2007 via New York City (David Feinstein)
6. 11:43 PM - Re: Tiger Annual (Jim Hall)
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| Subject: | AYA 2007 via New York City |
Many pilots flying to the convention at Glens Falls may want to fly the
Hudson River Class-B exclusion corridor in New York City. The rules are the
same as they always were, with one wrinkle.
There is a description of two possible routes at
http://carneyaviation.com/nyctour/nyctour.htm, including photos of major
landmarks. This route is breathtaking - if you've never flown it, you must
add it to your itinerary.
The wrinkle:
FDC 3/1862 closes the Hudson River route during NY Yankees home games, and
closes the route over La Guardia during Mets games. FSS briefers do not know
when these games are, but controllers do; and NYC police patrol the airspace
in helicopters during the games.
Schedules are here:
Yankees (Hudson R.) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
aMets (LGA transition) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym
Yankee Stadium 40-49.6N / 73-55.6 W
Shea Stadium (Mets) 40-45.2 N / 73-50.5 W
Feel free to forward this to the Grumman Gang. It's on topic because of the
convention.
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| Subject: | RE: AYA 2007 via New York City |
I just sent the fwd.
If I'm right I have no need to be angry;
If I'm wrong I have no right to be...
Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG
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From: "David Feinstein" <david@carneyaviation.com>
<TeamGrumman-List@matronics.com>
Subject: AYA 2007 via New York City
Many pilots flying to the convention at Glens Falls may want to fly the
Hudson River Class-B exclusion corridor in New York City. The rules are the
same as they always were, with one wrinkle.
There is a description of two possible routes at
http://carneyaviation.com/nyctour/nyctour.htm, including photos of major
landmarks. This route is breathtaking - if you've never flown it, you must
add it to your itinerary.
The wrinkle:
FDC 3/1862 closes the Hudson River route during NY Yankees home games, and
closes the route over La Guardia during Mets games. FSS briefers do not
know
when these games are, but controllers do; and NYC police patrol the airspace
in helicopters during the games.
Schedules are here:
Yankees (Hudson R.) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
aMets (LGA transition) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym
Yankee Stadium 40-49.6N / 73-55.6 W
Shea Stadium (Mets) 40-45.2 N / 73-50.5 W
Feel free to forward this to the Grumman Gang. It's on topic because of the
convention.
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| Subject: | Re: AYA 2007 via New York City |
Just as an additional note - since the diagram on the carney site was
created, the Class D airspace at KHPN has received some extra space
which sticks out. Last time I flew in that area northeast bound - they
would not let me cross directly over KHPN or enter their airspace - and
I wound up out over the sound ANYWAY (*and* I was talking to approach
and squawking) - a reverse red route.
mattd
David Feinstein wrote:
>
> Many pilots flying to the convention at Glens Falls may want to fly the
> Hudson River Class-B exclusion corridor in New York City. The rules are the
> same as they always were, with one wrinkle.
>
> There is a description of two possible routes at
> http://carneyaviation.com/nyctour/nyctour.htm, including photos of major
> landmarks. This route is breathtaking - if you've never flown it, you must
> add it to your itinerary.
>
> The wrinkle:
> FDC 3/1862 closes the Hudson River route during NY Yankees home games, and
> closes the route over La Guardia during Mets games. FSS briefers do not know
> when these games are, but controllers do; and NYC police patrol the airspace
> in helicopters during the games.
>
> Schedules are here:
> Yankees (Hudson R.) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
> aMets (LGA transition) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym
>
> Yankee Stadium 40-49.6N / 73-55.6 W
> Shea Stadium (Mets) 40-45.2 N / 73-50.5 W
>
> Feel free to forward this to the Grumman Gang. It's on topic because of the
> convention.
>
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| Subject: | Re: AYA 2007 via New York City |
If you call up ATC, they will give you a sightseeing flight directly over
the city as long as they are not busy.
Usually at 1500 to 2500 feet.
This includes when there is a Yankee game going on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mattd" <mattd@drahz.com>
Cc: "Northeast Grummans" <ne-grumman@mit.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AYA 2007 via New York City
> Just as an additional note - since the diagram on the carney site was
> created, the Class D airspace at KHPN has received some extra space
> which sticks out. Last time I flew in that area northeast bound - they
> would not let me cross directly over KHPN or enter their airspace - and
> I wound up out over the sound ANYWAY (*and* I was talking to approach
> and squawking) - a reverse red route.
>
> mattd
>
>
> David Feinstein wrote:
>> <david@carneyaviation.com>
>>
>> Many pilots flying to the convention at Glens Falls may want to fly the
>> Hudson River Class-B exclusion corridor in New York City. The rules are
>> the
>> same as they always were, with one wrinkle.
>>
>> There is a description of two possible routes at
>> http://carneyaviation.com/nyctour/nyctour.htm, including photos of major
>> landmarks. This route is breathtaking - if you've never flown it, you
>> must
>> add it to your itinerary.
>>
>> The wrinkle:
>> FDC 3/1862 closes the Hudson River route during NY Yankees home games,
>> and
>> closes the route over La Guardia during Mets games. FSS briefers do not
>> know
>> when these games are, but controllers do; and NYC police patrol the
>> airspace
>> in helicopters during the games.
>>
>> Schedules are here:
>> Yankees (Hudson R.) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
>> aMets (LGA transition) http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym
>>
>> Yankee Stadium 40-49.6N / 73-55.6 W
>> Shea Stadium (Mets) 40-45.2 N / 73-50.5 W
>>
>> Feel free to forward this to the Grumman Gang. It's on topic because of
>> the
>> convention.
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
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>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: AYA 2007 via New York City |
# Just as an additional note - since the diagram on the carney site
# was created, the Class D airspace at KHPN has received some extra
# space ...
... the chart is now modified. Thanks for pointing it out.
"not for navigation"
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I had absolutely no trouble (well I had to drive to the FSDO on the 405
freeway!) getting a ferry permit to fly my out-of-annual (by a week!)
Cheetah from SNA to TOA a few years ago. I needed an A&P to sign off in the
Aircraft log book that the plane was safe for the flight, and that was all
there was to it. The FSDO guy was very nice and I don't even think I had to
pay a fee!
Jim Hall
N9744U (been ferried!)
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