---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/21/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:16 AM - Armrest (Dwork, Robert) 2. 08:09 AM - Re: Armrest (flyv35b) 3. 08:22 AM - Re: Armrest (Dwork, Robert) 4. 09:43 AM - Re: Armrest (flyv35b) 5. 11:45 AM - Re: Armrest (Dwork, Robert) 6. 12:05 PM - Re: Armrest () 7. 12:09 PM - Re: Armrest (teamgrumman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:05 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest From: "Dwork, Robert" It would be really nice to have an armrest between the front seats in my Traveler. I've looked online and the only production item I've seen is a silly-looking contraption from Aircraft Spruce in which the pilot actually sits on a cross piece to support the armrest in place. Looks ridiculous, I can't imagine it works very well. Has anyone ever seen, made, designed or otherwise experienced any sort of permanent or semi-permanent armrest for our Grummans? Bob Dwork 1974 AA5 N9536L @ OWD (Norwood), Ma. This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this message. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:36 AM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest Never heard of anyone doing that before, but I suppose it could be done by attaching some structure to the side of the seatpan. There really isn't any other structure to attach it to and still be able to remove the center plastic console. It could get in the way of operating the elevator trim possibly. Probably would need to get a field approval. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwork, Robert" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:11 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > > > It would be really nice to have an armrest between the front seats in my > Traveler. I've looked online and the only production item I've seen is a > silly-looking contraption from Aircraft Spruce in which the pilot > actually sits on a cross piece to support the armrest in place. Looks > ridiculous, I can't imagine it works very well. > > Has anyone ever seen, made, designed or otherwise experienced any sort > of permanent or semi-permanent armrest for our Grummans? > > Bob Dwork > 1974 AA5 N9536L @ OWD (Norwood), Ma. > This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains > information that may be confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply > email and immediately delete this message. > Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. > > > -- > 11:55 AM > > -- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:02 AM PST US Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest From: "Dwork, Robert" Thanks for the response, Cliff. I'm not very mechanically inclined, so I don't own any tools other than the phone book. Take a look at this product, if you will: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/portablearmrest.php Do you think this could be motified to attach to the seatpan? Would you be interested in designing an arm rest for our Grummans in your spare time? :) Bob D -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest --> Never heard of anyone doing that before, but I suppose it could be done by attaching some structure to the side of the seatpan. There really isn't any other structure to attach it to and still be able to remove the center plastic console. It could get in the way of operating the elevator trim possibly. Probably would need to get a field approval. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwork, Robert" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:11 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > > > It would be really nice to have an armrest between the front seats in > my Traveler. I've looked online and the only production item I've seen > is a silly-looking contraption from Aircraft Spruce in which the pilot > actually sits on a cross piece to support the armrest in place. Looks > ridiculous, I can't imagine it works very well. > > Has anyone ever seen, made, designed or otherwise experienced any sort > of permanent or semi-permanent armrest for our Grummans? > > Bob Dwork > 1974 AA5 N9536L @ OWD (Norwood), Ma. > This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains > information that may be confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply > email and immediately delete this message. > Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. > > > -- > 11:55 AM > > -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:33 AM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest That is generally the idea, although I think it would need to be attached on the side of the seat pan, do the rivets where the aft hinge bracket is attached AND also forward on the seat pan. It would probably need a jog toward the center to clear the seat upholstery. But the slot and vertical adjustment would be a good idea. I think you would have to fabricate a custom bracket out of .063 aluminum plate possibly for it to work properly and the seat to move throughout it's total travel capacity without the armrest interfering with anything. Not really a small project and certainly not cheap if you have to pay someone to do it. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwork, Robert" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > > > Thanks for the response, Cliff. > I'm not very mechanically inclined, so I don't own any tools other than > the phone book. > > Take a look at this product, if you will: > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/portablearmrest.php > > Do you think this could be motified to attach to the seatpan? > Would you be interested in designing an arm rest for our Grummans in > your spare time? :) > > Bob D > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > flyv35b > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:05 AM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > > --> > > Never heard of anyone doing that before, but I suppose it could be done > by > attaching some structure to the side of the seatpan. There really isn't > any > other structure to attach it to and still be able to remove the center > plastic console. It could get in the way of operating the elevator trim > > possibly. Probably would need to get a field approval. > > Cliff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dwork, Robert" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:11 AM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > >> >> >> >> It would be really nice to have an armrest between the front seats in >> my Traveler. I've looked online and the only production item I've seen > >> is a silly-looking contraption from Aircraft Spruce in which the pilot > >> actually sits on a cross piece to support the armrest in place. Looks >> ridiculous, I can't imagine it works very well. >> >> Has anyone ever seen, made, designed or otherwise experienced any sort > >> of permanent or semi-permanent armrest for our Grummans? >> >> Bob Dwork >> 1974 AA5 N9536L @ OWD (Norwood), Ma. >> This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains >> information that may be confidential. >> If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by > reply >> email and immediately delete this message. >> Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the > >> intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> 11:55 AM >> >> > > > -- > > > -- > 11:55 AM > -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:59 AM PST US Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest From: "Dwork, Robert" "Not really a small project and certainly not cheap if you have to pay someone to do it." My Traveler is apart right now for annual. Maybe a good time to see if something like you describe could be done. If enough people liked the idea, maybe costs could be spread out... Thanks for your thoughts on the matter, Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest --> That is generally the idea, although I think it would need to be attached on the side of the seat pan, do the rivets where the aft hinge bracket is attached AND also forward on the seat pan. It would probably need a jog toward the center to clear the seat upholstery. But the slot and vertical adjustment would be a good idea. I think you would have to fabricate a custom bracket out of .063 aluminum plate possibly for it to work properly and the seat to move throughout it's total travel capacity without the armrest interfering with anything. Not really a small project and certainly not cheap if you have to pay someone to do it. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwork, Robert" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > > > Thanks for the response, Cliff. > I'm not very mechanically inclined, so I don't own any tools other > than the phone book. > > Take a look at this product, if you will: > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/portablearmrest.php > > Do you think this could be motified to attach to the seatpan? Would > you be interested in designing an arm rest for our Grummans in your > spare time? :) > > Bob D > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > flyv35b > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:05 AM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > > --> > > Never heard of anyone doing that before, but I suppose it could be > done by attaching some structure to the side of the seatpan. There > really isn't any > other structure to attach it to and still be able to remove the center > plastic console. It could get in the way of operating the elevator trim > > possibly. Probably would need to get a field approval. > > Cliff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dwork, Robert" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:11 AM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest > > >> >> >> >> It would be really nice to have an armrest between the front seats in >> my Traveler. I've looked online and the only production item I've >> seen > >> is a silly-looking contraption from Aircraft Spruce in which the >> pilot > >> actually sits on a cross piece to support the armrest in place. Looks >> ridiculous, I can't imagine it works very well. >> >> Has anyone ever seen, made, designed or otherwise experienced any >> sort > >> of permanent or semi-permanent armrest for our Grummans? >> >> Bob Dwork >> 1974 AA5 N9536L @ OWD (Norwood), Ma. >> This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains >> information that may be confidential. If you are not the intended >> recipient please notify the sender by > reply >> email and immediately delete this message. >> Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than >> the > >> intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> 11:55 AM >> >> > > > -- > > > -- > 11:55 AM > -- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:37 PM PST US From: <923te@cox.net> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest Bob, You might find that a canine would suite your needs. It should be sized so as to just be lodged between the seats yet tall enough, whie lodged, to take just the right amount of weight off your arm. In addition you should select the proper metabolism so that the armrest is heated yet doesn't stink too much. Also consider whether you'd like an upholstry comparable to lambswool or perhaps something less bulky. Once the 'right' model is selected then you can justify spending $ on flying with your armrest by joining that club Ron Levy is in....something about saving poor canines fom destruction thru making mercy flights... ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest From: teamgrumman@aol.com When flying alone, I push the seat back on the co-pilots seat and rest my ar m on that. =C2-But, you have the goofy seats that pivot near the front so that won't work. =C2- I'm not familiar with any arm rest for the middle. -----Original Message----- From: Dwork, Robert Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 5:11 am Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Armrest a.com> It would be really nice to have an armrest between the front seats in my Traveler. I've looked online and the only production item I've seen is a silly-looking contraption from Aircraft Spruce in which the pilot actually sits on a cross piece to support the armrest in place. Looks ridiculous, I can't imagine it works very well. Has anyone ever seen, made, designed or otherwise experienced any sort of permanent or semi-permanent armrest for our Grummans? Bob Dwork 1974 AA5 N9536L @ OWD (Norwood), Ma. This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply emai l and immediately delete this message. 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