---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/11/08: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:05 AM - Re: Cracked wheel fairing brackets (flyv35b) 2. 01:38 PM - Re: Cracked wheel fairing brackets (Ian Matterface) 3. 02:17 PM - Re: Cracked wheel fairing brackets (G Vogt) 4. 02:24 PM - Re: Cracked wheel fairing brackets (G Vogt) 5. 02:48 PM - Re: Cracked main wheel fairing brackets (Ian Matterface) 6. 06:22 PM - Re: Re: Cracked main wheel fairing brackets (Steve Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:28 AM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets Ian, I have never seen a cracked bracket like that. Maybe Gil's comment ab out aerodynamic vibration has some merit, but then I would think you would feel something if it was violent enough to cause that. Most all planes hav e the brake cover fairings except some of the 2 place models which used an external Lord shock mount on top of the wheel fairing. You can no install the brake cover fairing on these due to the interference. And all the fibe rglass fairings I've seen installed have not had the lead weight installed in the nose so I doubt if that would cause it. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Matterface To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets Has anyone any ideas as to why these cracks have come about. The bracket bearings are free and the fairing free to move. Only thing none standard, a s this is a 79 Tiger, is it is not fitted with brake covers. I have had the question up on the Gang, but apart form one reply saying n ever seen before had no other feedback, thought there may be a few more in the business guys looking on here who may have a view. If this had only been on one of the brackets I would have just put it dow n to a one off situation, but from the pictures you will see the other side has started in the same place. All comments welcome as I have a new bracke t for the one cracked right though, but don't want the same thing to start happening again. Pictures of the problem can be found at http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php =3Fp=414#414 Ian =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - =5F-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse =5F-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, =5F-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, =5F-= Photoshare, and much much more: =5F-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator=3FTeamGrumman-List =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - =5F-= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! =5F-= --> http://forums.matronics.com =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - List Contribution Web Site - =5F-= Thank you for your generous support! =5F-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. =5F-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution =5F-=========================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Checked by AVG. 08 11:12 AM -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:07 PM PST US From: "Ian Matterface" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets Thanks to everyone that replied to this topic. From one of those I think we may have found a possible reason for these cracks. Check out this link and further pictures. Further comments welcome. http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=414#414 Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Matterface To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets Has anyone any ideas as to why these cracks have come about. The bracket bearings are free and the fairing free to move. Only thing none standard, as this is a 79 Tiger, is it is not fitted with brake covers. I have had the question up on the Gang, but apart form one reply saying never seen before had no other feedback, thought there may be a few more in the business guys looking on here who may have a view. If this had only been on one of the brackets I would have just put it down to a one off situation, but from the pictures you will see the other side has started in the same place. All comments welcome as I have a new bracket for the one cracked right though, but don't want the same thing to start happening again. Pictures of the problem can be found at http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=414#414 Ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 5/10/2008 11:12 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- e in their emails. Try SPAMfi ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:34 PM PST US From: G Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets I'm in SLC to pick up my Grumman pontoon boat! I haven't had a chance to look at the pics,but, I saw one other inboard wheel fairing cracked and, at the time, I concluded that it was due to the hardware (it had a home-made spacer that was too big) on top of the remaining hardware being installed wrong. Be patient. I'm having prototypes of new wheel pants being made as I type this. Gary Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2008, at 3:02 PM, phil@ReliantAir.com wrote: > > Have you checked to ensure the nose weights are present? They > dampen vibration I believe. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gil Alexander > > Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:31:21 > To:teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets > > > Ian... perhaps vibration caused by 150 mph airflow over the brackets? > > Perhaps those flimsy plastic brake covers really do something > useful...:^) > > gil A > > > At 12:13 PM 5/10/2008, you wrote: > Has anyone any ideas as to why these cracks have come about. The > bracket bearings are free and the fairing free to move. Only thing > none standard, as this is a 79 Tiger, is it is not fitted with brake > covers. > > I have had the question up on the Gang, but apart form one reply > saying never seen before had no other feedback, thought there may be > a few more in the business guys looking on here who may have a view. > > If this had only been on one of the brackets I would have just put > it down to a one off situation, but from the pictures you will see > the other side has started in the same place. All comments welcome > as I have a new bracket for the one cracked right though, but don't > want the same thing to start happening again. > > Pictures of the problem can be found at http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=414#414 > > > Ian > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:22 PM PST US From: G Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets I never replace the weight either. I've never had a problem not having the weight either. Sent from my iPhone On May 11, 2008, at 8:04 AM, "flyv35b" wrote: > Ian, I have never seen a cracked bracket like that. Maybe Gil's > comment about aerodynamic vibration has some merit, but then I would > think you would feel something if it was violent enough to cause > that. Most all planes have the brake cover fairings except some of > the 2 place models which used an external Lord shock mount on top of > the wheel fairing. You can no install the brake cover fairing on > these due to the interference. And all the fiberglass fairings I've > seen installed have not had the lead weight installed in the nose so > I doubt if that would cause it. > > Cliff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ian Matterface > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:13 PM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cracked wheel fairing brackets > > Has anyone any ideas as to why these cracks have come about. The > bracket bearings are free and the fairing free to move. Only thing > none standard, as this is a 79 Tiger, is it is not fitted with brake > covers. > > I have had the question up on the Gang, but apart form one reply > saying never seen before had no other feedback, thought there may be > a few more in the business guys looking on here who may have a view. > > If this had only been on one of the brackets I would have just put > it down to a one off situation, but from the pictures you will see > the other side has started in the same place. All comments welcome > as I have a new bracket for the one cracked right though, but don't > want the same thing to start happening again. > > Pictures of the problem can be found at http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=414#414 > > Ian > > > 5/10/2008 11:12 AM > > e in their emails. > Try SPAMfi > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:28 PM PST US From: "Ian Matterface" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Cracked main wheel fairing brackets Sorry Bob link was same as last time just updated with more pictures and feedback comments.http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=414#414 Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Steward Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Cracked main wheel fairing brackets > >From replies received direct I may have found a possible reason for this >damage. Check out the link below again for an update and further pictures. >Further comments welcome. >Ian Would LOVE to if there WERE a link below... Bob Steward Birmingham, AL ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:54 PM PST US From: "Steve Roberts" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Cracked main wheel fairing brackets LOL looks like Bob gotcha 1st... We shall not cease from exploration. And at the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive were we started And know the place for the first time - T. S. Eliot Steve Roberts - AA-1B N641HY @ ILG ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Ian Matterface" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Cracked main wheel fairing brackets Sorry Bob link was same as last time just updated with more pictures and feedback comments.http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=414#414 Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Steward Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Cracked main wheel fairing brackets > >From replies received direct I may have found a possible reason for this >damage. Check out the link below again for an update and further pictures. >Further comments welcome. >Ian Would LOVE to if there WERE a link below... 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