---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/21/08: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: What would you do? Update (923te) 2. 05:04 AM - Re: Fuel tank leak: Update (923te) 3. 08:39 AM - Re: Fuel tank leak: Update (Gregory Ketell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:29 AM PST US From: "923te" <923te@att.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: What would you do? Update Owner is probably used to slamming the canopy shut real hard and has knocked the hell out of it forcing the coving to spread out... ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: What would you do? Update Thanks for the kudos, everyone. The latest is that the check is in the mail (not sure how much the check is). SC indicated that the plane would be brought back, but didn't say when. SC sent pics of the windshield. It looks like the windshield has settled forward into the coving. Not sure why. When I removed the old windshield, there was a lot of clay in the area at the front under the location where the 3 screws go in the front. The windshield was pretty snug when I installed it. We'll see what happens then I get the plane back. if I get the plane back. -----Original Message----- From: jetinc@comcast.net To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 4:00 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Question: What would you do? Hi Gary, What an asshole! In all of my dealings with you you've been more than fair; actually, much more than fair. And I've always felt grateful that it was you who performed all the work. Moreover, there's an invaluable piece of mind and confidence knowing it was you who did the work. You're a true gear head! (That's a compliment, by the way...). I'd have the loser fly up and then you could take a look. It there are issues or the window settled then fix it at no charge. But I would make sure that he has the money/check and if it's a check then make him go to the bank with you when he comes to get the plane. Otherwise, lock it up in your hanger. My dad did autoglass for over 50 years and has a fantastic reputation for his quality of work. People would come from miles away to have work on their classic and rare cars. He's truly an artisan. And so are you. If you ever need a referal, don't hesitate to give a potential customer my number. Cheers Brother! Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@aol.com what about posting the real name, n-number, and location of the plane and owner? -----Original Message----- From: 923te <923te@att.net> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 7:37 am Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Question: What would you do? I would think that just the threat of doing A.would get the thief to pay his bill....I'd tell him that after his check cleared then you would be willing to discuss not doing A and perhaps consider doing repairs...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! or?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List p://forums.matronics.com ution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:32 AM PST US From: "923te" <923te@att.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fuel tank leak: Update Punt.....Remove wings skins...take about an hour with a good heat gun.....install new wing skins....probably take less time than more scraping and will give plenty of access room to reseal tanks.. Garner has new wing skins already bent or you can bend your own like this: http://bd-4.org/wings_steere14.html and next page While your at it get STC to put Yankee leading edge on Tiger wing! ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:07 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fuel tank leak: Update The most important lesson I've learned on this repair is that the lo-adhesion sealant, PR 1428, is VERY difficult to remove. It's rubbery and the surface is slick. The correct sealant, PS 890, will scrape and tear off in chunks. The 1428 is like silly putty; it'll stretch and then slip out of the needle nose pliers. So far, I've got 30 hours in cleaning out the old sealant. I'm having a helluva time getting the 1428 out from between the spar and the wing skin. It's globbed in and I can't get it out. The really bad part is that the 1428 closes off 90% of the gap, lengthwise between the ribs, between the spar and wing skin. The 1428 completely fills the gap and is about 1/2 inch thick along the spar. Any ideas? I've tried thin scrapers. I can't get the scraper more than about 1/8 inch before the scraper gets stuck. I tried a hacksaw blade to see if I could cut it down. It won't cut. I'm going to try dental floss to see if I can cut it away from the spar. Safety wire? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:24 AM PST US From: Gregory Ketell Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fuel tank leak: Update An off-the-wall idea: how about a "hot wire" knife like they use to cut foam? Try it outside the tank first. ;-) GK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.