---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/30/08: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:23 AM - Re: Racing and handicaps (mattd) 2. 10:30 AM - Re: Racing and handicaps (Rick Pollack) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:03 AM PST US From: mattd Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Racing and handicaps They use Relativity in their calculations as an independent variable in the equation. Spend an hour in a Tiger, and it seems like 20 minutes. Spend 20 minutes in a 182.... mattd /do not archive teamgrumman@aol.com wrote: > One of my customers just completed the Air Race Classic and placed > 14th behind a Piper Cherokee 180 and a whole bunch of Cessna 182s. > The handicap speed on the Piper was over 10 knots slower than the > Tiger. Fair enough. But, the handicap speed on the 182s were also in > the 10 to 15 knot range slower than the Tiger. > > What gives? > > How is this handicap speed determined? The Tiger was given a 126 knot > handicap. One of the top 3 182s had a 111 knot handicap. If their > winning speed was only 5 knots faster than the Tigers, the 182s will > always have a 10 knot advantage over a TIger regardless of how you > look at it. > > Keep in mind, compared to a Tiger, the C-182 has more horsepower, > greater rate of climb, longer range, greater fuel load, and a faster > cruise speed. > > How is the handicap speed (usually) determined? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get the Moviefone Toolbar > . > Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:56 AM PST US From: "Rick Pollack" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Racing and handicaps >One of my customers just completed the Air Race Classic and placed 14th behind a Piper Cherokee 180 and a whole bunch >of Cessna 182s. The handicap speed on the Piper was over 10 knots slower than the Tiger. Fair enough. But, the handicap >speed on the 182s were also in the 10 to 15 knot range slower than the Tiger. >What gives? >How is this handicap speed determined? The Tiger was given a 126 knot handicap. One of the top 3 182s had a 111 knot >handicap. If their winning speed was only 5 knots faster than the Tigers, the 182s will always have a 10 knot advantage over a >TIger regardless of how you look at it. >Keep in mind, compared to a Tiger, the C-182 has more horsepower, greater rate of climb, longer range, greater fuel load, and >a faster cruise speed. >How is the handicap speed (usually) determined? By Cessna _____ Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.