---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/21/08: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:56 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/20/08 (Richard Mutzman) 2. 12:02 PM - cowling/wheelpants (teamgrumman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:43 AM PST US From: Richard Mutzman Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/20/08 Wow! Great job Gary. As an aero engineer for the last 30 years=2C I can appreciate the analysis and work you went through on this project. Will thi s cowling also work on the Cheetah or is it optimized for the Tiger?Richard Mutzman> Date: Sat=2C 20 Dec 2008 23:58:52 -0800> From: teamgrumman-list@m atronics.com> To: teamgrumman-list-digest@matronics.com> Subject: TeamGrumm an-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/20/08> > *> > =========== ==============> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive> =================== ======> > Today's complete TeamGrumman-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file include s the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and feature s Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the TeamGrumman-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Ve rsion:> > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View =html&Chapter 08-12-20&Archive=TeamGrumman> > Text Version:> > http ://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-12-20&Archive=TeamGrumman> > > =========== ============> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive> ====================== => > > ----------------------------------------------------------> TeamGr umman-List Digest Archive> ---> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/20/08: 2> ---- ------------------------------------------------------> > > Today's Message Index:> ----------------------> > 1. 10:51 AM - Re: New Cowling (AuCountry ) - Finally! (923te)> 2. 06:12 PM - Re: Final flight test (James Courtney)> > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _________________________ ____________> > > Time: 10:51:36 AM PST US> From: "923te" <923te@att.net>> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: New Cowling (AuCountry) - Finally!> > http:/ /www.aucountry.com/Team_Folder/Cowling_Folder/index_Cowling.html> > http:// www.aucountry.com/> > Follow the above links for pictures and some history on Gary Vogt's > cowling.> > LoPresti is just a nose bowl replacement while Vogt's is the entire > cowling. It is lightweight and very streamlined as you will garner from > the above link. Gary went to extreme lengths to buil d an aerodynamically > superior and cooling superior cowling that can repla ce the no longer > made 1975 thru 1979 Tiger cowls. > > Gary is a great ass et to the Grumman community bringing his experience > as an aerospace engin eer=2C IA A&P and love for our aircraft type. > > He has been reluctant to publicly state exactly what speed improvement > his cowl achieves. From hav ing followed the project I am going to say > that there is a speed gain and a cooling gain that will pleasantly > surprise those who purchase it and i t is the only new complete > replacement cowl available to replace all the worn out ones in the > fleet.> > >From what I have heard the cost of the co wl will be significantly less > than a comparable after market cowl such as the $20=2C000 LoPresti Howl > Cowl:> http://tinyurl.com/9g3p65> > Your Fel low Grumman Enthusiast=2C> Ned> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SkyM achines > To: 'Jeffrey Keesaman' =3B grumman-Gang@xmission.com > Sent: Satu rday=2C December 20=2C 2008 10:53 AM> Subject: RE: New Cowling (AuCountry) - Finally!> > > Has there been any discussion of the cost of the cowling fo r the rest > of us?> > > And=2C sorry=2C but I've been off the Gang for awh ile: What are the > advantages> to this cowl over the LoPresti?> > Marc Coa n=2C > Santa Fe=2C NM> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____ ________________________________> > > Time: 06:12:26 PM PST US> From: "Jame s Courtney" > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Final flight test> > Fantastic Gary=2C kudos to you and I hope the FAA gets the rest done for > you quickly.> > > Happy Holidays!> > > Jamey> > > From: own er-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-s erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > teamgrumman@aol.com> Sent: Sunday=2C De cember 14=2C 2008 10:52 AM> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Final flight test> > > well=2C yesterday=2C we did the final flight test. we found 30 degree ai r > and got the required 90 degree temperature rise. > > > Now=2C as soon a s the FAA accepts the data . . . . . . you know the rest > of the story> > > _____ > > Listen to 350+ music=2C sports=2C & news radio stations =93 i ncluding > songs for the holidays =93 FREE while you browse. Start > > Li stening Now! > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> 12/14/2008 12:28 PM =======================> > > > _________________________________________________________________ It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad 1_122008 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:25 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: cowling/wheelpants From: teamgrumman@aol.com The cowling will fit a Cheetah, but, the inlet is the issue. =C2-If I had a Cheetah for a year, I could sort it out. =C2- The wheel pants: I'm in the process of fitting up and working out the mounti ng issues. =C2-Then, the flight testing begins. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Mutzman Sent: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 7:56 am Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/20/08 Wow!=C2- Great job Gary.=C2- As an aero engineer for the last 30 years, I can=C2- appreciate the analysis and work you went through on this projec t. Will this cowling also work on the Cheetah or is it optimized for the Tig er? Richard Mutzman > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:58:52 -0800 > From: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > To: teamgrumman-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/20/08 > > * > > ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete TeamGrumman-List Digest can also be found in either of th e > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the TeamGrumman-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text edito r > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > ht tp://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapt er 08-12-20&Archive=TeamGrumman > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Ch apter 08-12-20&Archive=TeamGrumman > > > ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 12/20/08: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 10:51 AM - Re: New Cowling (AuCountry) - Finally! (923te) > 2. 06:12 PM - Re: Final flight test (James Courtney) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _______________________________ ______ > > > Time: 10:51:36 AM PST US > From: "923te" <923te@att.net> > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: New Cowling (AuCountry) - Finally! > > http://www.aucountry.com/Team_Folder/Cowling_Folder/index_Cowling.html > > http://www.aucountry.com/ > > Follow the above links for pictures and some history on Gary Vogt's > cowling. > > LoPresti is just a nose bowl replacement while Vogt's is the entire > cowling. It is lightweight and very streamlined as you will garner from > the above link. Gary went to extreme lengths to build an aerodynamically > superior and cooling superior cowling that can replace the no longer > made 1975 thru 1979 Tiger cowls. > > Gary is a great asset to the Grumman community bringing his experience > as an aerospace engineer, IA A&P and love for our aircraft type. > > He has been reluctant to publicly state exactly what speed improvement > his cowl achieves. From having followed the project I am going to say > that there is a speed gain and a cooling gain that will pleasantly > surprise those who purchase it and it is the only new complete > replacement cowl available to replace all the worn out ones in the > fleet. > > >From what I have heard the cost of the cowl will be significantly less > than a comparable after market cowl such as the $20,000 LoPresti Howl > Cowl: > http://tinyurl.com/9g3p65 > > Your Fellow Grumman Enthusiast, > Ned > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SkyMachines > To: 'Jeffrey Keesaman' ; grumman-Gang@xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:53 AM > Subject: RE: New Cowling (AuCountry) - Finally! > > > Has there been any discussion of the cost of the cowling for the rest > of us? > > > And, sorry, but I've been off the Gang for awhile: What are the > advantages > to this cowl over the LoPresti? > > Marc Coan, > Santa Fe, NM > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _______________________________ ______ > > > Time: 06:12:26 PM PST US > From: "James Courtney" > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Final flight test > > Fantastic Gary, kudos to you and I hope the FAA gets the rest done for > you quickly .. > > > Happy Holidays! > > > Jamey > > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > teamgrumman@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:52 AM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Final flight test > > > well, yesterday, we did the final flight test. we found 30 degree air > and got the required 90 degree temperature rise. > > > Now, as soon as the FAA accepts the data . . . . . . you know the rest > of the story > > > _____ > > Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations =93 including > songs for the holidays =93 FREE while you browse. Start > > Listening Now! > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > 12/14/2008 12:28 PM > > > > >===================== >== > > > > It=99s the same Hotmail=C2=AE. If by =9Csame=9D you mean u p to 70% faster. 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