---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/12/09: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:08 AM - Horizontal braces (teamgrumman@aol.com) 2. 10:53 AM - Re: Horizontal braces (Gil Alexander) 3. 03:06 PM - Re: Horizontal braces (grumpyparts) 4. 04:33 PM - Re: Horizontal braces (923te) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:24 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal braces From: teamgrumman@aol.com I found bent vertical braces in the area in contact with the stub spar that goes through the fuselage on a Tiger with no other noted damage to anything. =C2-I cannot imaging how that vertical brace can be bent unless the horiz ontal twisted so much that it deformed the vertical braces. =C2- Just a heads up ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:06 AM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal braces Could it be a "tail skid touch" landing that forced the aft fuselage up a little, and the mass of the horizontal resists it and causes the buckle in the vertical angles? The damage to mine was similar to your description - previous owner landings though...:^) gil A PS ..can we attach pictures now? At 10:06 AM 3/12/2009, you wrote: >I found bent vertical braces in the area in >contact with the stub spar that goes through the >fuselage on a Tiger with no other noted damage >to anything. I cannot imaging how that >vertical brace can be bent unless the horizontal >twisted so much that it deformed the vertical braces. > >Just a heads up ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:10 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Horizontal braces From: "grumpyparts" Yes you can put pictures up on the Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> TeamGrumman-List under the same topic name. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234381#234381 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:12 PM PST US From: "923te" <923te@att.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal braces Not the vertical but I saw the horizontal brace cracked. A fellow Tiger owner on my field was pushing his Tiger into the T-hangar and struck the hangar with the elevator. He came and got me to see the damage. The right stabilizer was seperated from the fuselage about an inch leaving a gap at the leading edge root where the plastic root fillet usually is up against the fuselage. I held the right stabilizer at the tip and put a little forward pressure on it and heard a big pop. The gap was now gone. Further inspection by the A&P found the top lip of the spar cracked and that is where you could locate the popping sound... ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal braces I found bent vertical braces in the area in contact with the stub spar that goes through the fuselage on a Tiger with no other noted damage to anything. I cannot imaging how that vertical brace can be bent unless the horizontal twisted so much that it deformed the vertical braces. Just a heads up ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.