---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/18/09: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:05 AM - Re: Weight and Balance (923te) 2. 10:16 PM - Re: Weight and Balance (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:14 AM PST US From: "923te" <923te@att.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance Gary, This thread is very interesting to me as I had some doubts about my AG5B W&B figures from the factory. I removed the rear headliner and weighed it. It weighed 4.5 lbs. Don't have the breakdown in front of me but most of that weight was in the thicker, yellow foam. The weight of the factory main wheel and leg fairings is 17 lbs. The rear baggage floor carpet was 5.13 lbs the hat rack 5.75 lbs all the other floor carpet 7 lbs. The 12.13 lbs of wool carpet was a bad idea from the ex Commander Aircraft execs... Does 81" sound right for the wingtip light. That is the ARM my IA used when installing the Boom Beam lights My OEM alternator weighed 12.25 lbs while the replacement Plane Power weighed 9.8. My shocks weghed 5.24 steps 5.05 Do these compare with your findings? Ned ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM Ned, =========> follow my responses This thread is very interesting to me as I had some doubts about my AG5B W&B figures from the factory. I removed the rear headliner and weighed it. It weighed 4.5 lbs. Don't have the breakdown in front of me but most of that weight was in the thicker, yellow foam. The weight of the factory main wheel and leg fairings is 17 lbs. ======> Can you break out the wheel fairings from the wheels? My database treats them separately. The rear baggage floor carpet was 5.13 lbs ======> Just the carpet in the baggage area?????? the hat rack 5.75 lbs =======> all the other floor carpet 7 lbs. =======> what do you mean? Is this different from the following? The 12.13 lbs of wool carpet was a bad idea from the ex Commander Aircraft execs... =======> from what I've found, the average basic airframe weight of the AG5B (later ones, anyway), weigh 80 to 100 lbs more than a 70s Tiger. But, then, a 70s Tiger doesn't have bondo on the entire side of the plane. Does 81" sound right for the wingtip light. That is the ARM my IA used when installing the Boom Beam lights =======> sounds right. I'm showing the leading edge of the wing at 75.68 inches. What is odd is that the CG for the landing light from the factory is 101.96 inches. The main gea r wheel assembly is supposed to be at 100.15 inches. That would put the landing light behind the main gear. My OEM alternator weighed 12.25 lbs while the replacement Plane Power weighed 9.8. =======> I'm showing the weight for the OEM alternator at 12.7 lbs. 10.10 for the Plane Power. My shocks weghed 5.24 =======> that is the weight I have for the last AG5Bs. The 70s shock assembly is 4.31 lbs. steps 5.05 ========> no change. Do these compare with your findings? Ned ================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.