---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/20/09: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:09 PM - Weight and Balance (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 2. 07:46 PM - Re: Weight and Balance (Gil Alexander) 3. 08:10 PM - Re: Weight and Balance (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 4. 08:32 PM - Re: Weight and Balance (flyv35b) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:41 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM Ned, send me your W&B stuff, the original stuff, and let me create a database page for it. I'm going to modify my W&B sample loading to reflect the pilots/copilots CG at the extremes. I think it was a bad decision not to include both limits in the original loading paperwork. Who'd be at fault if a pilot used the sample loading and then crashed because both front seat passengers fly at the aft location and loaded the plane to what would have been a safe loading? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:05 PM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance I would presume that the FAA would require a safety factor built into these limits, just like the +10% (or was it +15%) on your Vne dive tests. Is this not the case? Do you loose stability EXACTLY at the aft limit? gil A At 07:01 PM 6/20/2009, you wrote: > >Ned, send me your W&B stuff, the original stuff, and let me create a >database page for it. > >I'm going to modify my W&B sample loading to reflect the >pilots/copilots CG at the extremes. I think it was a bad decision >not to include both limits in the original loading paperwork. Who'd >be at fault if a pilot used the sample loading and then crashed >because both front seat passengers fly at the aft location and >loaded the plane to what would have been a safe loading? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM Not sure. But, we can be assured, if it's FAA approved, it has to be OK. Right? -----Original Message----- From: Gil Alexander Sent: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 7:43 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance I would presume that the FAA would require a safety factor built into these limits, just like the +10% (or was it +15%) on your Vne dive tests. Is this not the case? Do you loose stability EXACTLY at the aft limit? gil A At 07:01 PM 6/20/2009, you wrote: > >Ned, send me your W&B stuff, the original stuff, and let me create a >database page for it. > >I'm going to modify my W&B sample loading to reflect the >pilots/copilots CG at the extremes. I think it was a bad decision >not to include both limits in the original loading paperwork. Who'd >be at fault if a pilot used the sample loading and then crashed >because both front seat passengers fly at the aft location and >loaded the plane to what would have been a safe loading? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:47 PM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance Right On! Does that go for the Airbus also? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance > > Not sure. But, we can be assured, if it's FAA approved, it has to be > OK. Right? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gil Alexander > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 7:43 pm > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Weight and Balance > > > > > > > > > > I would presume that the FAA would require a safety factor built into > these limits, just like the +10% (or was it +15%) on your Vne dive > tests. > > > Is this not the case? Do you loose stability EXACTLY at the aft limit? > > > gil A > > > At 07:01 PM 6/20/2009, you wrote: > > >> > >>Ned, send me your W&B stuff, the original stuff, and let me create a >>database page for it. > >> > >>I'm going to modify my W&B sample loading to reflect the >>pilots/copilots CG at the extremes. I think it was a bad decision >>not to include both limits in the original loading paperwork. Who'd >>be at fault if a pilot used the sample loading and then crashed >>because both front seat passengers fly at the aft location and >>loaded the plane to what would have been a safe loading? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. 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