---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/28/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:22 AM - Re: The last flight test. Again. (flyv35b) 2. 08:10 AM - Re: The last flight test. Again. (Gil Alexander) 3. 08:26 AM - Re: The last flight test. Again. (Ned Thomas) 4. 10:52 AM - Re: The last flight test. Again. (Jeffrey Keesaman) 5. 01:07 PM - Re: The last flight test. Again. (flyv35b) 6. 08:35 PM - Re: The last flight test. Again. (teamgrumman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:29 AM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the new cowli ng, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing at 152 knots TAS. What prop pitch=3F ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. Using instrumented mags, complete with thermocouples, plus three extra TC s measuring the ambient temp in the area if the accessories, we did two cli mb tests from sea-level to 12,500 feet. The max temperature, corrected for 100 degree day, was 190 degrees. Yea, like I'm ever going to see 100 degr ees at 12,500 feet. Anyway, from what I understand, the temperature test on the mags was the last hold-up for the STC. We'll see. By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the new cow ling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 to determine TA S, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing at 152 knots TAS. One thing of note: Jeff's airspeed indicator was about 5 knots slower th an mine. We need another Tiger to compare airspeed indicators. Confucius say, =22If a man has a watch, he'll always know what time it is. If he has two watches, he'll never be quite sure.=22 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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The Professional version does not have this message ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:50 AM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. Gary... the three direction run method at cardinal headings and using GPS ground speeds is probably a much more accurate way of getting a good TAS reading, than the GNS-430 calculation. Three runs stabilized at the same IAS is all that is needed. With the neat web application here, the mathematics involved is reduced to zero...:^) http://www.reacomp.com/true_airspeed/index.html gil A >By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and >his Tiger with the new cowling, from Lancaster >to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 to >determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 >rpm, he was truing at 152 knots TAS. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:27 AM PST US From: Ned Thomas <923te@att.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. I'm curious. What else has Keesman's Tiger had done to it to help increase speed? On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:18 AM, "flyv35b" wrote: > By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the > new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 > to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing > at 152 knots TAS. > > What prop pitch? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:27 PM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. > > Using instrumented mags, complete with thermocouples, plus three > extra TCs measuring the ambient temp in the area if the accessories, > we did two climb tests from sea-level to 12,500 feet. The max > temperature, corrected for 100 degree day, was 190 degrees. Yea, > like I'm ever going to see 100 degrees at 12,500 feet. > > Anyway, from what I understand, the temperature test on the mags was > the last hold-up for the STC. We'll see. > > By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the > new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 > to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing > at 152 knots TAS. > > One thing of note: Jeff's airspeed indicator was about 5 knots > slower than mine. We need another Tiger to compare airspeed > indicators. > > Confucius say, "If a man has a watch, he'll always know what time it > is. If he has two watches, he'll never be quite sure." > > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > > > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfersion does not have this message. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:54 AM PST US From: Jeffrey Keesaman Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. 65-63-61 Thanks, Jeff Keesaman m: 619 518 0597 jkeesaman@mac.com On Jun 28, 2009, at 7:18 AM, flyv35b wrote: > By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the > new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 > to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing > at 152 knots TAS. > > What prop pitch? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:27 PM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. > > Using instrumented mags, complete with thermocouples, plus three > extra TCs measuring the ambient temp in the area if the accessories, > we did two climb tests from sea-level to 12,500 feet. The max > temperature, corrected for 100 degree day, was 190 degrees. Yea, > like I'm ever going to see 100 degrees at 12,500 feet. > > Anyway, from what I understand, the temperature test on the mags was > the last hold-up for the STC. We'll see. > > By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the > new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 > to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing > at 152 knots TAS. > > One thing of note: Jeff's airspeed indicator was about 5 knots > slower than mine. We need another Tiger to compare airspeed > indicators. > > Confucius say, "If a man has a watch, he'll always know what time it > is. If he has two watches, he'll never be quite sure." > > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > > > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfersion does not have this message. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:28 PM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. What's that, the last three blade stations with the outboard one being 61" pitch? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeffrey Keesaman To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. 65-63-61 Thanks, Jeff Keesaman m: 619 518 0597 jkeesaman@mac.com On Jun 28, 2009, at 7:18 AM, flyv35b wrote: By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing at 152 knots TAS. What prop pitch? ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. Using instrumented mags, complete with thermocouples, plus three extra TCs measuring the ambient temp in the area if the accessories, we did two climb tests from sea-level to 12,500 feet. The max temperature, corrected for 100 degree day, was 190 degrees. Yea, like I'm ever going to see 100 degrees at 12,500 feet. Anyway, from what I understand, the temperature test on the mags was the last hold-up for the STC. We'll see. By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. Using my 430 to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing at 152 knots TAS. One thing of note: Jeff's airspeed indicator was about 5 knots slower than mine. We need another Tiger to compare airspeed indicators. Confucius say, "If a man has a watch, he'll always know what time it is. If he has two watches, he'll never be quite sure." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfersion does not have this message. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. From: teamgrumman@aol.com magic propeller dust -----Original Message----- From: Ned Thomas <923te@att.net> Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 8:23 am Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. I'm curious. What else has Keesman's Tiger had done to it to help increase speed? On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:18 AM, "flyv35b" wrote: By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Keesaman and his Tiger with the new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. =C2-Using my 430 to det ermine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing at 152 knots TAS. =C2- =C2- What prop pitch? =C2- =C2- ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: The last flight test. Again. Using instrumented mags, complete with thermocouples, plus three extra TCs measuring the ambient temp in the area if the accessorie s, we did two climb tests from sea-level to 12,500 feet. =C2-The max tempera ture, corrected for 100 degree day, was 190 degrees. =C2-Yea, like I'm ever going to see 100 degrees at 12,500 feet. =C2- Anyway, from what I understand, the temperature test on the mags was the last hold-up for the STC. =C2-We'll see. By-the-way, I flew alongside Jeff Kee saman and his Tiger with the new cowling, from Lancaster to Auburn last Thursday. =C2-Using my 430 to determine TAS, and with him running about 2780 rpm, he was truing at 152 knots TAS. =C2- One thing of note: =C2-Jeff's airspeed indicator was about 5 knots slower than mine. =C2-We need another Tiger to compare airspeed indicators. Confucius say, "If a man has a watch, he'll always know what time it is. =C2-If he has two watches, he'll never be quite sure." A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. 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