---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/23/09: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:07 AM - Poll on Convention Dates (Mike Boyd) 2. 09:55 AM - Re: Poll on Convention Dates (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:29 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Poll on Convention Dates From: Mike Boyd Hey everyone, First an apology...if you have received multiple notices about this I'm sorry. I'm doing my best to make sure all AYA members have a chance to vote in this thing (and it isn't as easy as one might think) so if this is the second, or third, time you've heard about it...feel free skip the remaining message. Recently the subject of expanding or removing the restriction on the dates in which the membership meeting and annual convention can be held has received a lot of discussion on the Grumman Gang mailing list. Currently, the AYA constitution states that "the membership shall meet once a year, between the dates of June 15th and August 15th" and many have expressed that the date range may be more restrictive than it needs to be. So, to better judge how the membership feels I created a "straw poll" on the AYA Forum. The proposal is to expand or eliminate the date restriction for the membership meeting and convention. This will not necessarily change when or where any specific convention is held as that is still ultimately up to the volunteers that make a convention proposal to the board of directors and take on the role of convention chair. All this proposed change would do is to widen the window of possibilities. If you have ANY interest in when the convention and membership meeting is held, I would appreciate it if you would take a few moments and vote in the poll. It will be available thru the end of July and can be found at the following location: http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=185 If you have difficulty with the above link, go to http://www.ayaforum.org, click on the "Log in" link to log into the system, then go to the "AYA Gatherings" forum and you will find a posting titled "[ Poll ] AYA Convention Dates - Should the restriction be changed?". Click on that and if you are successfully logged in you should see the poll at the top of the posting. Make your selection and click on the "Vote" button to record your vote. Please note that you need to be logged into the AYA forum in order to cast a vote (you can review the results without logging in). Also, note that due to technical limitations the ayaforum.org site has a different login than the main aya.org site. It is open to all AYA members so if you have not created an account on the ayaforum.org site, contact Steve Roberts (forumadmin@aya.org) with the user name you desire and your AYA member number and he'll get an account setup for you. Details are here: http://www.ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=106 If there is enough interest, I have volunteered to draft a proposed amendment to our constitution and help with the necessary process. If there is enough interest and the board agrees, the result of this process will be sent to a vote of the AYA membership. Thank you for taking a few moments to express your opinion. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at mwboyd@gmail.com. -Mike ------ Michael Boyd '76 AA5A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:15 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Poll on Convention Dates From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM Hi Mike, Thanks for taking the time to include all of us. =C2-I've tried being an event coordinator in the past and if anyone thinks getting 3 people to ag ree is difficult, try getting 300 people to agree. =C2-I appreciate your efforts. To begin with, setting the convention dates to coincide with school summer vacation is ok for those with kids or those who get time off during the summer, but, that is a minority portion of those of us in the AYA. =C2- It makes more sense to me to take advantage of the convention site and acc ept the losses. As for past convention, all of the conventions I've attended in the Southw est, Sacramento included,=C2-or South, have been miserably hot. =C2-Th e Baraboo convention was rainy. =C2-I understand the Blue Ash convention was cloudy and rainy also. =C2-The best ones I've attended, weather wis e, were Cody (2) and Sun River. =C2-Bolwing Green was nice too. I didn't go to Canada because if the time and money I would need to invest . =C2-Cost benefit just wasn't there. =C2-Going to the caribbean would be worth it. =C2-I've been to Canada, I didn't leave anything there. =C2-Can't see going back. Each area of the country has it's preferred season. =C2-It would make se nse to me to optimize the convention site to the season. =C2-Now, I know there will be those die-hards who dislike or reject change for any reason but, why not make the most out of each convention without regard to those who can or can't make it for whatever reason. =C2-My guess is, at the very least, attendance wou ld not be affected at all. =C2-The upside is, having a convention in New England in the fall would be freakin' awesome. =C2-Spring in the Rocky' s. =C2-Lake Havasu in the winter. =C2- "if you always do what you've already done, you'll always have what you've already got."=C2- -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 8:06 am Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Poll on Convention Dates Hey everyone, First an apology...if you have received multiple notices about this I'm sorry. I'm doing my best to make sure all AYA members have a chance to vote in this thing (and it isn't as easy as one might think) so if this is the second, or third, time you've heard about it...feel free skip the remaining message. Recently the subject of expanding or removing the restriction on the dates in which the membership meeting and annual convention can be held has received a lot of discussion on the Grumman Gang mailing list. Currently, the AYA constitution states that "the membership shall meet once a year, between the dates of June 15th and August 15th" and many have expressed that the date range may be more restrictive than it needs to be. So, to better judge how the membership feels I created a "straw poll" on the AYA Forum. The proposal is to expand or eliminate the20date restriction for the membership meeting and convention. This will not necessarily change when or where any specific convention is held as that is still ultimately up to the volunteers that make a convention proposal to the board of directors and take on the role of convention chair. All this proposed change would do is to widen the window of possibilities. If you have ANY interest in when the convention and membership meeting is held, I would appreciate it if you would take a few moments and vote in the poll. It will be available thru the end of July and can be found at the following location: http://ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=185 If you have difficulty with the above link, go to http://www.ayaforum.org, click on the "Log in" link to log into the system, then go to the "AYA Gatherings" forum and you will find a posting titled "[ Poll ] AYA Convention Dates - Should the restriction be changed?". Click on that and if you are successfully logged in you should see the poll at the top of the posting. Make your selection and click on the "Vote" button to record your vote. Please note that you need to be logged into the AYA forum in order to cast a vote (you can review the results without logging in). Also, note that due to technical limitations the ayaforum.org site has a different login than the main aya.org site. It is open to all AYA members so if you have not created an account on the ayaforum.org site, contact Steve Roberts (forumadmin@aya.org) with th e user name you desire and your AYA member number and he'll get an account setup for you. Details are here: http://www.ayaforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=106 If there is enough interest, I have volunteered to draft a proposed amendment to our constitution and help with the necessary process. If there is enough interest and the board agrees, the result of this process will be sent to a vote of the AYA membership. Thank you for taking a few moments to express your opinion. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at mwboyd@gmail.com. -Mike ------ Michael Boyd '76 AA5A ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== 0 - List Contribution Web Site - ======================== =========== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.