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1. 10:13 AM - Float doesn't (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
2. 10:23 AM - Re: Float doesn't (jetinc@comcast.net)
3. 10:46 AM - Re: Float doesn't (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
4. 10:49 AM - Re: Float doesn't (jetinc@comcast.net)
5. 11:05 AM - Re: Float doesn't (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
6. 11:17 AM - Re: Float doesn't (jetinc@comcast.net)
7. 02:38 PM - Re: Float doesn't (flyv35b)
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I had a customer called several weeks ago saying his engine felt 'weird' on a landing,
kind of like it wanted to stall. ?As he rolled out onto the taxiway, the
engine felt normal. ?We made an appointment to check it out, and left it at
that. ?The next few flights were about the same. ?He didn't worry much about
the engine. ?
A couple of weeks ago (oh, he never did come down to have it checked out) he called
saying it was worse. ?
Note: ?He has a Cheetah. ?Several years ago I had a customer with the same symptoms
with his Cheetah and it was the mixture needle working it's way out. ?
I had him check the mixture screw and turn it in a 1/4 turn and said to bring it
in. ?He planned to bring it in but never did. ?The engine 'felt' better. ?
Last week, he called saying it was getting a lot worse. ?He said it barely ran
at idle. ?He finally brought it in last Friday. ?
I looked for all of the basic stuff, leaks at the intake tubes, mixture screw,
looked for leaks on the carb . . . . nothing. ?We removed the cowling and airbox.
?Several years ago, the accelerator nozzle in the carb on my Cheetah had fallen
out and was lying in the bottom of the airbox. ?I expected to find something
like that. ?Nothing. ?Venturi was tight,?accelerator nozzle was tight . .
. ?nothing. ?I removed the carb.
I expected to find debris in the bottom of the carb. ?Nothing. ?Then I noticed
one of the semi-transparent floats was full, I mean full, of fuel. ?These are
the white floats. ?They should have been changed. ?Except that, the carb had been
overhauled in 2005. ?All new parts. ?
Carb goes to Ken, at Lycon, in the morning.
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| Subject: | Re: Float doesn't |
Gary,
Wish I was still flying and you were working on my plane. Your knowledge of these
planes saves owners a ton of money. Way to go Gear Head!
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:58:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I had a customer called several weeks ago saying his engine felt 'weird' on a landing,
kind of like it wanted to stall. As he rolled out onto the taxiway, the
engine felt normal. We made an appointment to check it out, and left it at that.
The next few flights were about the same. He didn't worry much about the
engine.
A couple of weeks ago (oh, he never did come down to have it checked out) he called
saying it was worse.
Note: He has a Cheetah. Several years ago I had a customer with the same symptoms
with his Cheetah and it was the mixture needle working it's way out.
I had him check the mixture screw and turn it in a 1/4 turn and said to bring it
in. He planned to bring it in but never did. The engine 'felt' better.
Last week, he called saying it was getting a lot worse. He said it barely ran at
idle. He finally brought it in last Friday.
I looked for all of the basic stuff, leaks at the intake tubes, mixture screw,
looked for leaks on the carb . . . . nothing. We removed the cowling and airbox.
Several years ago, the accelerator nozzle in the carb on my Cheetah had fallen
out and was lying in the bottom of the airbox. I expected to find something
like that. Nothing. Venturi was tight, accelerator nozzle was tight . . . nothing.
I removed the carb.
I expected to find debris in the bottom of the carb. Nothing. Then I noticed one
of the semi-transparent floats was full, I mean full, of fuel. These are the
white floats. They should have been changed. Except that, the carb had been overhauled
in 2005. All new parts.
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| Subject: | Re: Float doesn't |
Hey Eddie, I know of a couple of project planes. ?What a project?
-----Original Message-----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
Sent: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 10:19 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Gary,
Wish I was still flying and you were working on my plane. ?Your knowledge of these
planes saves owners a ton of money. ?Way to go Gear Head!
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:58:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I had a customer called several weeks ago saying his engine felt 'weird' on a landing,
kind of like it wanted to stall. ?As he rolled out onto the taxiway, the
engine felt normal. ?We made an appointment to check it out, and left it at
that. ?The next few flights were about the same. ?He didn't worry much about
the engine. ?
A couple of weeks ago (oh, he never did come down to have it checked out) he called
saying it was worse. ?
Note: ?He has a Cheetah. ?Several years ago I had a customer with the same symptoms
with his Cheetah and it was the mixture needle working it's way out. ?
I had him check the mixture screw and turn it in a 1/4 turn and said to bring it
in. ?He planned to bring it in but never did. ?The engine 'felt' better. ?
Last week, he called saying it was getting a lot worse. ?He said it barely ran
at idle. ?He finally brought it in last Friday. ?
I looked for all of the basic stuff, leaks at the intake tubes, mixture screw,
looked for leaks on the carb . . . . nothing. ?We removed the cowling and airbox.
?Several years ago, the accelerator nozzle in the carb on my Cheetah had fallen
out and was lying in the bottom of the airbox. ?I expected to find something
like that. ?Nothing. ?Venturi was tight,?accelerator nozzle was tight . .
. ?nothing. ?I removed the carb.
I expected to find debris in the bottom of the carb. ?Nothing. ?Then I noticed
one of the semi-transparent floats was full, I mean full, of fuel. ?These are
the white floats. ?They should have been changed. ?Except that, the carb had been
overhauled in 2005. ?All new parts. ?
Carb goes to Ken, at Lycon, in the morning.
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| Subject: | Re: Float doesn't |
I think I need another project like I need another Kid! Can't wait to come up and
see you...
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:38:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Hey Eddie, I know of a couple of project planes. What a project?
-----Original Message-----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
Sent: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 10:19 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Gary,
Wish I was still flying and you were working on my plane. Your knowledge of these
planes saves owners a ton of money. Way to go Gear Head!
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:58:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I had a customer called several weeks ago saying his engine felt 'weird' on a landing,
kind of like it wanted to stall. As he rolled out onto the taxiway, the
engine felt normal. We made an appointment to check it out, and left it at that.
The next few flights were about the same. He didn't worry much about the
engine.
A couple of weeks ago (oh, he never did come down to have it checked out) he called
saying it was worse.
Note: He has a Cheetah. Several years ago I had a customer with the same symptoms
with his Cheetah and it was the mixture needle working it's way out.
I had him check the mixture screw and turn it in a 1/4 turn and said to bring it
in. He planned to bring it in but never did. The engine 'felt' better.
Last week, he called saying it was getting a lot worse. He said it barely ran at
idle. He finally brought it in last Friday.
I looked for all of the basic stuff, leaks at the intake tubes, mixture screw,
looked for leaks on the carb . . . . nothing. We removed the cowling and airbox.
Several years ago, the accelerator nozzle in the carb on my Cheetah had fallen
out and was lying in the bottom of the airbox. I expected to find something
like that. Nothing. Venturi was tight, accelerator nozzle was tight . . . nothing.
I removed the carb.
I expected to find debris in the bottom of the carb. Nothing. Then I noticed one
of the semi-transparent floats was full, I mean full, of fuel. These are the
white floats. They should have been changed. Except that, the carb had been overhauled
in 2005. All new parts.
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| Subject: | Re: Float doesn't |
Come on up and help with the remodeling of my Condo.
-----Original Message-----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
Sent: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 10:49 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I think I need another project like I need another Kid! ?Can't wait to come up
and see you...
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:38:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Hey Eddie, I know of a couple of project planes. ?What a project?
-----Original Message-----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
Sent: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 10:19 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Gary,
Wish I was still flying and you were working on my plane. ?Your knowledge of these
planes saves owners a ton of money. ?Way to go Gear Head!
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:58:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I had a customer called several weeks ago saying his engine felt 'weird' on a landing,
kind of like it wanted to stall. ?As he rolled out onto the taxiway, the
engine felt normal. ?We made an appointment to check it out, and left it at
that. ?The next few flights were about the same. ?He didn't worry much about
the engine. ?
A couple of weeks ago (oh, he never did come down to have it checked out) he called
saying it was worse. ?
Note: ?He has a Cheetah. ?Several years ago I had a customer with the same symptoms
with his Cheetah and it was the mixture needle working it's way out. ?
I had him check the mixture screw and turn it in a 1/4 turn and said to bring it
in. ?He planned to bring it in but never did. ?The engine 'felt' better. ?
Last week, he called saying it was getting a lot worse. ?He said it barely ran
at idle. ?He finally brought it in last Friday. ?
I looked for all of the basic stuff, leaks at the intake tubes, mixture screw,
looked for leaks on the carb . . . . nothing. ?We removed the cowling and airbox.
?Several years ago, the accelerator nozzle in the carb on my Cheetah had fallen
out and was lying in the bottom of the airbox. ?I expected to find something
like that. ?Nothing. ?Venturi was tight,?accelerator nozzle was tight . .
. ?nothing. ?I removed the carb.
I expected to find debris in the bottom of the carb. ?Nothing. ?Then I noticed
one of the semi-transparent floats was full, I mean full, of fuel. ?These are
the white floats. ?They should have been changed. ?Except that, the carb had been
overhauled in 2005. ?All new parts. ?
Carb goes to Ken, at Lycon, in the morning.
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| Subject: | Re: Float doesn't |
roger, wilco!
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:03:04 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Come on up and help with the remodeling of my Condo.
-----Original Message-----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
Sent: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 10:49 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I think I need another project like I need another Kid! Can't wait to come up and
see you...
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:38:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Hey Eddie, I know of a couple of project planes. What a project?
-----Original Message-----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
Sent: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 10:19 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
Gary,
Wish I was still flying and you were working on my plane. Your knowledge of these
planes saves owners a ton of money. Way to go Gear Head!
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:58:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I had a customer called several weeks ago saying his engine felt 'weird' on a landing,
kind of like it wanted to stall. As he rolled out onto the taxiway, the
engine felt normal. We made an appointment to check it out, and left it at that.
The next few flights were about the same. He didn't worry much about the
engine.
A couple of weeks ago (oh, he never did come down to have it checked out) he called
saying it was worse.
Note: He has a Cheetah. Several years ago I had a customer with the same symptoms
with his Cheetah and it was the mixture needle working it's way out.
I had him check the mixture screw and turn it in a 1/4 turn and said to bring it
in. He planned to bring it in but never did. The engine 'felt' better.
Last week, he called saying it was getting a lot worse. He said it barely ran at
idle. He finally brought it in last Friday.
I looked for all of the basic stuff, leaks at the intake tubes, mixture screw,
looked for leaks on the carb . . . . nothing. We removed the cowling and airbox.
Several years ago, the accelerator nozzle in the carb on my Cheetah had fallen
out and was lying in the bottom of the airbox. I expected to find something
like that. Nothing. Venturi was tight, accelerator nozzle was tight . . . nothing.
I removed the carb.
I expected to find debris in the bottom of the carb. Nothing. Then I noticed one
of the semi-transparent floats was full, I mean full, of fuel. These are the
white floats. They should have been changed. Except that, the carb had been overhauled
in 2005. All new parts.
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| Subject: | Re: Float doesn't |
Gary, after our phone conversation Friday about this, it doesn't surprise m
e. The float was sinking, raising the fuel level and making it run very ri
ch. Probably could have diagnosed it by leaning the mixture manually until
it smoothed out and that would have told you it was to rich (20/20 hindsig
ht, right=3F).
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:58 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Float doesn't
I had a customer called several weeks ago saying his engine felt 'weird'
on a landing, kind of like it wanted to stall. As he rolled out onto the t
axiway, the engine felt normal. We made an appointment to check it out, an
d left it at that. The next few flights were about the same. He didn't wo
rry much about the engine.
A couple of weeks ago (oh, he never did come down to have it checked out)
he called saying it was worse.
Note: He has a Cheetah. Several years ago I had a customer with the sam
e symptoms with his Cheetah and it was the mixture needle working it's way
out.
I had him check the mixture screw and turn it in a 1/4 turn and said to b
ring it in. He planned to bring it in but never did. The engine 'felt' be
tter.
Last week, he called saying it was getting a lot worse. He said it barel
y ran at idle. He finally brought it in last Friday.
I looked for all of the basic stuff, leaks at the intake tubes, mixture s
crew, looked for leaks on the carb . . . . nothing. We removed the cowling
and airbox. Several years ago, the accelerator nozzle in the carb on my C
heetah had fallen out and was lying in the bottom of the airbox. I expecte
d to find something like that. Nothing. Venturi was tight, accelerator no
zzle was tight . . . nothing. I removed the carb.
I expected to find debris in the bottom of the carb. Nothing. Then I no
ticed one of the semi-transparent floats was full, I mean full, of fuel. T
hese are the white floats. They should have been changed. Except that, th
e carb had been overhauled in 2005. All new parts.
Carb goes to Ken, at Lycon, in the morning.
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