---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/08/09: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:33 AM - Re: (teamgrumman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:58 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: From: teamgrumman@aol.com Gary, I don't understand all the photos you sent.? The first two appear to show two thick bulkheads (honeycomb?).? Are they temporary or permanent?? The other photos show aluminum formed bulkheads that replace the original angles.? They appear to be far stronger than the original.? What's the difference between the two configurations? ? Cliff ------------------------------------- In order to get a MIL spec alodining on the inside of the fuselage, I needed to create a tank in the back for the alodinging process. ?Doing the parts themselves is easy. ?Getting the inside of the fuselage alodined correctly isn't. ? I also designed, and had approved, new braces. ?It doesn't make sense to replace the weak link with the same weak link. ?The new vertical braces have a 25% wider attaching surface (just in case the bond is weaker) and a return along the edge that I see bent in so many planes. ?The horizontal brace is built like a bridge truss. ?The intention here was to transfer the torsional loads from one side of the fuselage to the other. ?Share the load if you will. ?The area of contact between the horizontal and vertical braces is about 400% greater. ?See new pics. I talked to an engineer (who has done tail wheel conversions) about a tail wheel Tiger. ?If I do go ahead with a tail wheel (you heard it here first) I have considered bonding 1/8 inch honeycomb to the sides of that aft section to beef up the structure. ?The floor would get 1/4 inch. ?We'll see what is needed first. ?I have a spare fuselage to drop . . . .? PS, that last pic is of the tail tie down repair. ?It used 0.030 aluminum riveted to the inside on a portion of skin only 0.025 thick. ?I'll need to repair that while I'm in there. Gary -----Original Message----- From: flyv35b Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 6:42 am Subject: Re: Gary, I don't understand all the photos you sent.? The first two appear to show two thick bulkheads (honeycomb?).? Are they temporary or permanent?? The other photos show aluminum formed bulkheads that replace the original angles.? They appear to be far stronger than the original.? What's the difference between the two configurations? ? Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:10 AM We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. The Professional version does not have this message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.