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1. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: (flyv35b)
2. 01:45 PM - Metal Overlay (Richard Mutzman)
3. 02:43 PM - Re: Metal Overlay (Steve Roberts)
4. 03:48 PM - Fw: 7 great iPhotos (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
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What I meant to say was a retractable nose gear only.
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From: flyv35b
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re:
Didn't the factory build a retractable gear Tiger. Anyone know how
much that increased the speed. I doubt if you would gain 10 kts, but
maybe.
Cliff
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From: teamgrumman@aol.com
To: flyv35b@minetfiber.com ; teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re:
I have read that the surface preparation for the metal-to-metal
bonding is the most critical part in making it hold. Since I was able
to seal off the back and do the alodining the correct way, for $300, why
not? The guys doing the alodining had a lot of buckets of various
solutions, acids, washes, and stuff. The whole process only took about
an hour.
Is there a market for a tail dragger? Probably not. It isn't
likely there are 10% of the Grumman community that have tail-wheel
endorsements. I want a tail-dragger; if only to see how much faster it
is. Is it worth it for a couple of knots? no. But, if I can squeeze 10
knots out of it, to me that's worth it.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
To: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:04 pm
Subject: Re:
Your new structure looks very impressive! Looks like a bridge
compared to the original. You even formed a joggle at the bottom for a
recess for the lower longeron angle, nice. Why is the alodine so
critical that you have to submerge the area? I know you get a better
coating that way but is it really necessary?
Do you think there is a market for a taildragger Tiger? Most Tiger
owners have never flown a taildragger and probably wouldn't want one.
Would there be a whole new market, or just the ability to get rid of a
significant amount of drag and make the plane faster? How long are you
going to be working on this plane? Maybe I'll fly down and see you.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
To: flyv35b@minetfiber.com ; teamgrumman-list@matronics.com ;
michael@michaellyman.com
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:08 AM
Subject: Re:
Gary, I don't understand all the photos you sent. The first two
appear to show two thick bulkheads (honeycomb?). Are they temporary or
permanent? The other photos show aluminum formed bulkheads that replace
the original angles. They appear to be far stronger than the original.
What's the difference between the two configurations?
Cliff
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In order to get a MIL spec alodining on the inside of the
fuselage, I needed to create a tank in the back for the alodinging
process. Doing the parts themselves is easy. Getting the inside of the
fuselage alodined correctly isn't.
I also designed, and had approved, new braces. It doesn't make
sense to replace the weak link with the same weak link. The new
vertical braces have a 25% wider attaching surface (just in case the
bond is weaker) and a return along the edge that I see bent in so many
planes. The horizontal brace is built like a bridge truss. The
intention here was to transfer the torsional loads from one side of the
fuselage to the other. Share the load if you will. The area of contact
between the horizontal and vertical braces is about 400% greater. See
new pics.
I talked to an engineer (who has done tail wheel conversions)
about a tail wheel Tiger. If I do go ahead with a tail wheel (you heard
it here first) I have considered bonding 1/8 inch honeycomb to the sides
of that aft section to beef up the structure. The floor would get 1/4
inch. We'll see what is needed first. I have a spare fuselage to drop
. . . .
PS, that last pic is of the tail tie down repair. It used 0.030
aluminum riveted to the inside on a portion of skin only 0.025 thick.
I'll need to repair that while I'm in there.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
To: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 6:42 am
Subject: Re:
Gary, I don't understand all the photos you sent. The first two
appear to show two thick bulkheads (honeycomb?). Are they temporary or
permanent? The other photos show aluminum formed bulkheads that replace
the original angles. They appear to be far stronger than the original.
What's the difference between the two configurations?
Cliff
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To: flyv35b@minetfiber.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:10 AM
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Gary=2C
Are you still selling the metal panel overlays?
Can you send some pics and a price? I'll need both the left side and the r
ight.
Also=2C I was wondering about the fiberglass eyebrow as well. I may have t
o wait on that=2C but are you still selling them and can you send me a pric
e.
Thanks
Richard Mutzman
Dayton=2C OH (Home of AYA 2010)
N399RM
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Rich=2C I'm not sure if Gary has the overlays or not but he is still sellin
g the fiberglass eyebrow. If you are doing the panel I'd recomend doing the
eyebrow at the same time as you will have it all apart anyway and that wou
ld be the time to do it. I'm very pleased with Gary's product.
Steve Roberts
AA1B - 641HY @ ILG
AYA Region 2 Director/Forum Admin
We shall not cease from exploration.
And at the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive were we started
And know the place for the first time - T. S. Eliot
From: rcmutz@msn.com
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Metal Overlay
Gary=2C
Are you still selling the metal panel overlays?
Can you send some pics and a price? I'll need both the left side and the r
ight.
Also=2C I was wondering about the fiberglass eyebrow as well. I may have t
o wait on that=2C but are you still selling them and can you send me a pric
e.
Thanks
Richard Mutzman
Dayton=2C OH (Home of AYA 2010)
N399RM
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| Subject: | Fwd: 7 great iPhotos |
Hi Richard
The overlays are $120 plus $20 shipping. ? Are you familiar with the Kokaska overlays?
?These are essentially the same pieces. ?The difference is the openings
for the gauges. ?
If you want a set of overlays,
Please send a check for $140 made payable to?
Gary L Vogt
2945 Bell Road ?#150
Auburn, CA ?95603
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The Eyebrow is $300 plus $20 shipping.? It comes covered in black Mello-Hyde.?
If you want one for your plane, please indicate the year and model Grumman you
have and
send a check for $320 made payable to?
Gary L Vogt
2945 Bell Road ?#150
Auburn, CA ?95603
Along with your check, please include a shipping address. ?Allow 3 weeks for delivery.?
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Keesaman <jkeesaman@mac.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 21, 2009 9:18 pm
Subject: 7 great iPhotos
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