---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/30/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:49 AM - Re: Horizontal Braces (matt drahz) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: Horizontal Braces (Jim Fudge) 3. 07:52 AM - Re: Horizontal Braces (Hosler, John) 4. 09:35 AM - Re: Horizontal Braces (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 5. 04:02 PM - Re: Horizontal Braces (Jim Fudge) 6. 06:20 PM - Re: Horizontal Braces (flyv35b) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:08 AM PST US From: matt drahz Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I will take a copy Gary! matt drahzal teamgrumman@aol.com wrote: > I found a way to save it as an exported Q-time file. It's only 9MB > now. It works on my computer. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 6:35 pm > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces > > I got the video down to 100MB and it still won't send. Any suggestions? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 5:56 pm > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces > > I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the > video but it was too large. I'll cut it down. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Fudge > > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:01 pm > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces > > Yes please. I have a cheetah that I need to inspect. > > Jim Fudge > > *From:* owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > ] *On Behalf Of > *teamgrumman@aol.com > *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:40 PM > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > > *Subject:* TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces > > I have a quick-time video with 64 pics of the horizontal braces being > installed. Interested? 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I fly out of short grass strips in northwest florida and some extra horse power sure would be nice. From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the video but it was too large. I'll cut it down. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fudge Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:01 pm Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces Yes please. I have a cheetah that I need to inspect. Jim Fudge From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I have a quick-time video with 64 pics of the horizontal braces being installed. Interested? Email me. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 10/29/09 02:38:00 =================================== ator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List =================================== ttp://forums.matronics.com =================================== ibution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 02:52:00 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:22 AM PST US Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces From: "Hosler, John" My Cheetah was converted to a Tiger under an STC in 1980. The conversion involves replacing the engine and front cowling as well as the thru spar to get the increased gross weight. John Hosler ________________________________ From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fudge Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces What is involved in converting a cheetah to a tiger. I fly out of short grass strips in northwest florida and some extra horse power sure would be nice. From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the video but it was too large. I'll cut it down. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fudge Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:01 pm Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces Yes please. I have a cheetah that I need to inspect. Jim Fudge From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I have a quick-time video with 64 pics of the horizontal braces being installed. Interested? Email me. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM Funny thing about that extra horsepower. A while back on the other site there was talk of how a 150 hp Traveler was enough. Still, I've never he ard, "Gee, I wish I had less horsepower." The cost to convert your plane to a Tiger is a lot higher than just sellin g your plane and buying a TIger. It really isn't worth the cost to conver t. If you want better climb performance, do the basics. GET RID OF WEIGHT. Most planes have way too much stuff in them that is never used. Then, =A2 Sensenich prop =A2 Powerflow =A2 High Compression STC if you don't have one already =A2 Ported and polished cylinders =A2 Lycon overhaul with ported and polished cylinders and a reinde xed cam. Did you get the video? -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fudge Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 6:51 am Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces What is involved in converting a cheetah to a tiger. I fly out of short grass strips in northwest florida and some extra horse power sure would be nice. From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrum man@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the video but it was too large. I'll cut it down. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fudge Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:01 pm Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces Yes please. I have a cheetah that I need to inspect. Jim Fudge From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I have a quick-time video with 64 pics of the horizontal braces being installed. Interested? 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 10/30/09 02:52:00 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:28 PM PST US From: "Jim Fudge" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces NO still no video. From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces Funny thing about that extra horsepower. A while back on the other site there was talk of how a 150 hp Traveler was enough. Still, I've never heard, "Gee, I wish I had less horsepower." The cost to convert your plane to a Tiger is a lot higher than just selling your plane and buying a TIger. It really isn't worth the cost to convert. If you want better climb performance, do the basics. GET RID OF WEIGHT. Most planes have way too much stuff in them that is never used. Then, =A2 Sensenich prop =A2 Powerflow =A2 High Compression STC if you don't have one already =A2 Ported and polished cylinders =A2 Lycon overhaul with ported and polished cylinders and a reindexed cam. Did you get the video? -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fudge Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 6:51 am Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces What is involved in converting a cheetah to a tiger. I fly out of short grass strips in northwest florida and some extra horse power sure would be nice. From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the video but it was too large. I'll cut it down. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fudge Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:01 pm Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces Yes please. I have a cheetah that I need to inspect. Jim Fudge From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I have a quick-time video with 64 pics of the horizontal braces being installed. Interested? 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I have seen a plane or two that used the Cheetah cowling and NACA air inlet and modifie d the stock Cheetah airbox with a Beech carburetor heat valve. Might be an alternative as Tiger airboxes are almost nonexistent. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Hosler, John To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces My Cheetah was converted to a Tiger under an STC in 1980. The conversion involves replacing the engine and front cowling as well as the thru spar t o get the increased gross weight. John Hosler --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fudge Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:51 AM To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces What is involved in converting a cheetah to a tiger. I fly out of short grass strips in northwest florida and some extra horse power sure would be nice. From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:56 PM To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the vid eo but it was too large. I'll cut it down. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fudge To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:01 pm Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces Yes please. I have a cheetah that I need to inspect. Jim Fudge From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:40 PM To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Braces I have a quick-time video with 64 pics of the horizontal braces being ins talled. 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