---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/30/09: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:17 AM - Project plane (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 2. 12:00 PM - Re: Project plane (flyv35b) 3. 08:46 PM - Re: Project plane (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:12 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Project plane From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM I pulled the carpets out of the project plane. Here's a good one. The ca rpets were cut around the brake master cylinders and installed all the way to the front. The carpets had a 1/2 inch of sound deadening material sew n to the backing. The carpets weighed 10 lbs. I also removed the side panels. Interesting installation. no screws. Ve lcro was sewn to sound deadening material (3/8 in thick) which was then gl ued to the side walls. It was nearly impossible to get the side panels of f. Oh, yea, the arm rests were riveted to the side panels. The aluminum side kick panels were gone. Carpet was glued to the side wal ls. A ONE-PIECE carpet from the firewall to the back seat was glued halfw ay up the side wall. Then, the aluminum side panels were velcroed on top of that. ALL of the avionics wiring is under the sound deadening materia l on the side walls. OK, so, once I got the carpet on the floor off and started cleaning 30 yea rs of crap out from under the console, I noticed the floor looked like the bed of a truck that just had a load of gravel dumped into it. Did someon e beat the shit out of it with a ball peen hammer? Maybe the installer was pissed off because the owner wanted the carpets un der the brake master cylinders. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:53 PM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Project plane Maybe the installer was pissed off because the owner wanted the carpets under the brake master cylinders. Why run the carpet under the MC? So the carpet can soak up all the brake fluid that is spilled! I can't believe the shit you run into, Gary. Must have something to do with California Grumman maintenance! (Not you of course) Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Project plane I pulled the carpets out of the project plane. Here's a good one. The carpets were cut around the brake master cylinders and installed all the way to the front. The carpets had a 1/2 inch of sound deadening material sewn to the backing. The carpets weighed 10 lbs. I also removed the side panels. Interesting installation. no screws. Velcro was sewn to sound deadening material (3/8 in thick) which was then glued to the side walls. It was nearly impossible to get the side panels off. Oh, yea, the arm rests were riveted to the side panels. The aluminum side kick panels were gone. Carpet was glued to the side walls. A ONE-PIECE carpet from the firewall to the back seat was glued halfway up the side wall. Then, the aluminum side panels were velcroed on top of that. ALL of the avionics wiring is under the sound deadening material on the side walls. OK, so, once I got the carpet on the floor off and started cleaning 30 years of crap out from under the console, I noticed the floor looked like the bed of a truck that just had a load of gravel dumped into it. Did someone beat the shit out of it with a ball peen hammer? Maybe the installer was pissed off because the owner wanted the carpets under the brake master cylinders. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Project plane From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM What can I say? Maybe I'm too picky. -----Original Message----- From: flyv35b Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 11:51 am Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Project plane Maybe the installer was pissed off because the owner wanted the carpets un der the brake master cylinders. Why run the carpet under the MC? So the carpet can soak up all the brake fluid that is spilled! I can't believe the shit you run into, Gary. Mus t have something to do with California Grumman maintenance! (Not you of co urse) Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Project plane I pulled the carpets out of the project plane. Here's a good one. The carpets were cut around the brake master cylinders and installed all th e way to the front. The carpets had a 1/2 inch of sound deadening mater ial sewn to the backing. The carpets weighed 10 lbs. I also removed the side panels. Interesting installation. no screws. Velcro was sewn to sound deadening material (3/8 in thick) which was then glued to the side walls. It was nearly impossible to get the side panels off. Oh, yea, the arm rests were riveted to the side panels. The aluminum side kick panels were gone. Carpet was glued to the side walls. A ONE-PIECE carpet from the firewall to the back seat was glued halfway up the side wall. Then, the aluminum side panels were velcroed on top of that. ALL of the avionics wiring is under the sound deadenin g material on the side walls. OK, so, once I got the carpet on the floor off and started cleaning 30 years of crap out from under the console, I noticed the floor looked like the bed of a truck that just had a load of gravel dumped into it. Did someone beat the shit out of it with a ball peen hammer? 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