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1. 01:29 PM - Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (teamgrumman@aol.com)
2. 04:33 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (flyv35b)
3. 06:12 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (James Courtney)
4. 09:46 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
5. 10:24 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (Gil Alexander)
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| Subject: | Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. |
I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed one
set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for Ned's
plane.
The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets was $3
000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a set. Anyw
ay, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with the part numbe
r stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined them too. They ar
e very nice.
Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished at al
l, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a shit-load of
them or doing them in-house.
I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I can
tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours.
Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are.
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| Subject: | Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. |
I bought a set of Van's baffles 3 years ago when I installed the O-320
engine in my Lynx for $200. I think it took me over 40 hrs to install
them with 75% of the time on the front baffles and the one over the top
of the engine which seal to the nose bowl. The ramps on the front
baffles had to be bent in 3 places and much trimming and riveting on
some extra gussets to make them fit the Grumman nose bowl. I must have
had the nose bowl and cowling on and off at least 20 times or more! The
end result was excellent cooling and baffling that is much better than
anything Grumman ever built. I guess if I took them off, made drawings
and duplicated them you could do it in far less time.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling.
I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed
one set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for
Ned's plane.
The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets
was $3000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a
set. Anyway, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with
the part number stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined
them too. They are very nice.
Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished
at all, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a
shit-load of them or doing them in-house.
I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I
can tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours.
Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are.
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| Subject: | Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. |
You drove from Auburn to Fremont today? It was beautiful (okay, a few
clouds in your direction). You should have flown to into Hayward and I
could have given you a lift on your errand.
Best,
Jamey
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Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling.
I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed one
set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for Ned's
plane.
The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets was
$3000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a set.
Anyway, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with the part
number stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined them too. They
are very nice.
Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished at all,
just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a shit-load of them
or doing them in-house.
I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I can
tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours.
Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
23:35:00
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| Subject: | Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. |
The baffles I had made were the result of a years worth of trimming and fi
tting and then turning them into CAD files. I'm hoping they fit out-of-th
e-box.
I'll know in a few days.
-----Original Message-----
From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2010 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling.
I bought a set of Van's baffles 3 years ago when I installed the O-320 eng
ine in my Lynx for $200. I think it took me over 40 hrs to install them
with 75% of the time on the front baffles and the one over the top of the
engine which seal to the nose bowl. The ramps on the front baffles had
to be bent in 3 places and much trimming and riveting on some extra gusse
ts to make them fit the Grumman nose bowl. I must have had the nose bowl
and cowling on and off at least 20 times or more! The end result was exc
ellent cooling and baffling that is much better than anything Grumman ever
built. I guess if I took them off, made drawings and duplicated them you
could do it in far less time.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling.
I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed
one set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for
Ned's plane.
The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets was
$3000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a set.
Anyway, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with the pa
rt number stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined them too
. They are very nice.
Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished at
all, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a shit-load
of them or doing them in-house.
I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I
can tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours.
Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are.
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| Subject: | Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. |
>Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished
>at all, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a
>shit-load of them or doing them in-house.
I think the answer is both... Vans fancy CNC machine is shown here...
http://www.kitplanes.com/news/news/9112-1.phtml
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