---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/30/10: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:29 PM - Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (teamgrumman@aol.com) 2. 04:33 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (flyv35b) 3. 06:12 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (James Courtney) 4. 09:46 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 5. 10:24 PM - Re: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. (Gil Alexander) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:56 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. From: teamgrumman@aol.com I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed one set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for Ned's plane. The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets was $3 000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a set. Anyw ay, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with the part numbe r stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined them too. They ar e very nice. Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished at al l, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a shit-load of them or doing them in-house. I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I can tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours. Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:29 PM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. I bought a set of Van's baffles 3 years ago when I installed the O-320 engine in my Lynx for $200. I think it took me over 40 hrs to install them with 75% of the time on the front baffles and the one over the top of the engine which seal to the nose bowl. The ramps on the front baffles had to be bent in 3 places and much trimming and riveting on some extra gussets to make them fit the Grumman nose bowl. I must have had the nose bowl and cowling on and off at least 20 times or more! The end result was excellent cooling and baffling that is much better than anything Grumman ever built. I guess if I took them off, made drawings and duplicated them you could do it in far less time. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:28 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed one set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for Ned's plane. The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets was $3000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a set. Anyway, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with the part number stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined them too. They are very nice. Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished at all, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a shit-load of them or doing them in-house. I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I can tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours. Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:51 PM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. You drove from Auburn to Fremont today? It was beautiful (okay, a few clouds in your direction). You should have flown to into Hayward and I could have given you a lift on your errand. Best, Jamey From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed one set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for Ned's plane. The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets was $3000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a set. Anyway, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with the part number stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined them too. They are very nice. Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished at all, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a shit-load of them or doing them in-house. I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I can tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours. Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 23:35:00 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM The baffles I had made were the result of a years worth of trimming and fi tting and then turning them into CAD files. I'm hoping they fit out-of-th e-box. I'll know in a few days. -----Original Message----- From: flyv35b Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2010 4:31 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. I bought a set of Van's baffles 3 years ago when I installed the O-320 eng ine in my Lynx for $200. I think it took me over 40 hrs to install them with 75% of the time on the front baffles and the one over the top of the engine which seal to the nose bowl. The ramps on the front baffles had to be bent in 3 places and much trimming and riveting on some extra gusse ts to make them fit the Grumman nose bowl. I must have had the nose bowl and cowling on and off at least 20 times or more! The end result was exc ellent cooling and baffling that is much better than anything Grumman ever built. I guess if I took them off, made drawings and duplicated them you could do it in far less time. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:28 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. I drove over to Fremont yesterday and picked up the baffles. I needed one set for Martin's plane, one set for Brian's plane, and one set for Ned's plane. The cost for one set, 13 pieces, was $1600.00. The cost for 5 sets was $3000.00. The cost for 10 sets was $5,000.00. Yikes. $500.00 a set. Anyway, I have them now and they are beautiful. They come with the pa rt number stamped in them. The fabricator brushed and alodined them too . They are very nice. Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished at all, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a shit-load of them or doing them in-house. I suppose one could fabricate their own baffles from Van's kits but, I can tell you from experience, it will take about 20 hours. Now, I need to mock up a set and see how close they are. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.ma tronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:42 PM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Baffles for the Jaguar cowling. >Van's sells a complete baffle set for $275.00. They aren't finished >at all, just punched out and bent. He has to be either making a >shit-load of them or doing them in-house. I think the answer is both... 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