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1. 10:26 AM - GG censorship (Lawrence Massaro)
2. 11:05 AM - Re: GG censorship (scott@hjermstad.com)
3. 11:05 AM - Xerion AuRacle (Bruce Smith)
4. 11:09 AM - Re: GG censorship (teamgrumman@aol.com)
5. 11:14 AM - Re: Xerion AuRacle (teamgrumman@AOL.com)
6. 11:15 AM - Re: GG censorship (Wes Chapman)
7. 11:25 AM - Re: GG censorship (n26390@aol.com)
8. 10:49 PM - Re: Re: Instrument panel (WILLIAM KELLY)
Message 1
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I replied to a recent post on the GG Saturday AM regarding an
interesting commentary on the AYA
website. Pretty simple post just telling any interested parties where
to find out info if they
are curious. As of today, the post has not been released.
WTF?
Is the moderator that much of an insecure A*S that cant take any criticism?
I thought I was responding to a open forum? Nothing in that response
broke any of the GG list rules as far as I can see.
MY RESPONSE
>Go to www.aucountry.com to find out why...
ORiGINAL POST
>Subject: AYA and the Gang
>
>(section removed)
>I have never visited the AYA forum, but have gotten considerable
>education and entertainment from the 'Gang. Many Star articles were old
>news that had been already covered on the gang and discussed by their
>authors. I am involved in aviation on many levels and can assure you
>that there is no room for any infighting or dilution of effort. The Gang
>lost a great resource in Gary Vogt, for reasons that I don't even
>recall, but Gary left and is now on Team Grumman. To further dilute the
>resource pool with parallel efforts does not make much sense. The Gang
>promotes AYA, while it seems that the the AYA discourages the Gang as a
>communication medium, even though is has a broader reach.
>(section removed)
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| Subject: | Re: GG censorship |
I believe I got this message from GG...
Weird...
Scott Hjermstad
AA1B 9962L @ PMV
------Original Message------
From: Lawrence Massaro
Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: GG censorship
Sent: Feb 22, 2010 10:34 AM
I replied to a recent post on the GG Saturday AM regarding an
interesting commentary on the AYA
website. Pretty simple post just telling any interested parties where
to find out info if they
are curious. As of today, the post has not been released.
WTF?
Is the moderator that much of an insecure A*S that cant take any criticism?
I thought I was responding to a open forum? Nothing in that response
broke any of the GG list rules as far as I can see.
MY RESPONSE
>Go to www.aucountry.com to find out why...
ORiGINAL POST
>Subject: AYA and the Gang
>
>(section removed)
>I have never visited the AYA forum, but have gotten considerable
>education and entertainment from the 'Gang. Many Star articles were old
>news that had been already covered on the gang and discussed by their
>authors. I am involved in aviation on many levels and can assure you
>that there is no room for any infighting or dilution of effort. The Gang
>lost a great resource in Gary Vogt, for reasons that I don't even
>recall, but Gary left and is now on Team Grumman. To further dilute the
>resource pool with parallel efforts does not make much sense. The Gang
>promotes AYA, while it seems that the the AYA discourages the Gang as a
>communication medium, even though is has a broader reach.
>(section removed)
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Have you installed the Xerion AuRacle engine monitoring system? It
looks pretty cool. And it's approved for installation on the Grumman
series of aircraft.
Thanks,
Bruce Smith
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: GG censorship |
What can I say?
The only rule you broke was mentioning my name.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Massaro <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 8:34 am
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: GG censorship
.com>
I replied to a recent post on the GG Saturday AM regarding an interesting
commentary on the AYA
website. Pretty simple post just telling any interested parties where to
find out info if they
are curious. As of today, the post has not been released.
WTF?
Is the moderator that much of an insecure A*S that cant take any criticism
?
I thought I was responding to a open forum? Nothing in that response
broke any of the GG list rules as far as I can see.
MY RESPONSE
>Go to www.aucountry.com to find out why...
ORiGINAL POST
>Subject: AYA and the Gang
>
>(section removed)
>I have never visited the AYA forum, but have gotten considerable
>education and entertainment from the 'Gang. Many Star articles were old
>news that had been already covered on the gang and discussed by their
>authors. I am involved in aviation on many levels and can assure you
>that there is no room for any infighting or dilution of effort. The Gang
>lost a great resource in Gary Vogt, for reasons that I don't even
>recall, but Gary left and is now on Team Grumman. To further dilute the
>resource pool with parallel efforts does not make much sense. The Gang
>promotes AYA, while it seems that the the AYA discourages the Gang as a
>communication medium, even though is has a broader reach.
>(section removed)
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| Subject: | Re: Xerion AuRacle |
Jeff Keesaman is looking into doing just that.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Smith <haveblue1@mac.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 11:01 am
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Xerion AuRacle
Have you installed the Xerion AuRacle engine monitoring system? It looks
pretty cool. And it's approved for installation on the Grumman series of
aircraft.
Thanks,
Bruce Smith
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: GG censorship |
Yes...I got the message via GG as well. Ironically, that is how I found out
about the TG list.
Wes
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:00 PM, <scott@hjermstad.com> wrote:
>
> I believe I got this message from GG...
>
> Weird...
>
> Scott Hjermstad
> AA1B 9962L @ PMV
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Lawrence Massaro
> Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: GG censorship
> Sent: Feb 22, 2010 10:34 AM
>
> lmassaro@tac-eng.com>
>
> I replied to a recent post on the GG Saturday AM regarding an
> interesting commentary on the AYA
> website. Pretty simple post just telling any interested parties where
> to find out info if they
> are curious. As of today, the post has not been released.
>
> WTF?
>
> Is the moderator that much of an insecure A*S that cant take any criticism?
> I thought I was responding to a open forum? Nothing in that response
> broke any of the GG list rules as far as I can see.
>
>
> MY RESPONSE
> >Go to www.aucountry.com to find out why...
>
> ORiGINAL POST
> >Subject: AYA and the Gang
> >
> >(section removed)
> >I have never visited the AYA forum, but have gotten considerable
> >education and entertainment from the 'Gang. Many Star articles were old
> >news that had been already covered on the gang and discussed by their
> >authors. I am involved in aviation on many levels and can assure you
> >that there is no room for any infighting or dilution of effort. The Gang
> >lost a great resource in Gary Vogt, for reasons that I don't even
> >recall, but Gary left and is now on Team Grumman. To further dilute the
> >resource pool with parallel efforts does not make much sense. The Gang
> >promotes AYA, while it seems that the the AYA discourages the Gang as a
> >communication medium, even though is has a broader reach.
> >(section removed)
>
>
--
Wes Chapman
Wes Chapman PC
PO Box 718
Vidalia, GA 30475
912-293-3794
1709 Green Acres Drive
Vidalia, GA 30474
912-538-8289
Message 7
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| Subject: | Re: GG censorship |
Sorry, but I also seem to remember reading your post on the GG.
Roger Rucker
AA5A '78 HWO
-----Original Message-----
From: scott@hjermstad.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: GG censorship
I believe I got this message from GG...
Weird...
Scott Hjermstad
A1B 9962L @ PMV
------Original Message------
rom: Lawrence Massaro
ender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
o: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
eplyTo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
ubject: TeamGrumman-List: GG censorship
ent: Feb 22, 2010 10:34 AM
.com>
I replied to a recent post on the GG Saturday AM regarding an
nteresting commentary on the AYA
ebsite. Pretty simple post just telling any interested parties where
o find out info if they
re curious. As of today, the post has not been released.
WTF?
Is the moderator that much of an insecure A*S that cant take any criticism
?
thought I was responding to a open forum? Nothing in that response
roke any of the GG list rules as far as I can see.
Y RESPONSE
>Go to www.aucountry.com to find out why...
ORiGINAL POST
>Subject: AYA and the Gang
>
>(section removed)
>I have never visited the AYA forum, but have gotten considerable
>education and entertainment from the 'Gang. Many Star articles were old
>news that had been already covered on the gang and discussed by their
>authors. I am involved in aviation on many levels and can assure you
>that there is no room for any infighting or dilution of effort. The Gang
>lost a great resource in Gary Vogt, for reasons that I don't even
>recall, but Gary left and is now on Team Grumman. To further dilute the
>resource pool with parallel efforts does not make much sense. The Gang
>promotes AYA, while it seems that the the AYA discourages the Gang as a
>communication medium, even though is has a broader reach.
>(section removed)
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel |
Good question. Because there is no official POH performace reference for
an O320 AA1X, I created my own charts. Our plane has a 62 inch pitch
prop. I don't remember what the stock Cheetah prop pitch is, but the
closest I could get (and I figured it would be close enough) was to scab
the % power data out of my old Cheetah manual which I converted to an
easy to read card I carry in the cockpit. That's what I use, plus the
old standard of full rich to 5000' DA (conveniently displayed on my EI
Super Clock), and thereafter lean for all full throttle operations.
Under 5000' DA I refer to the scabbed Cheetah data for leaning below 75%
RPM settings. I think it works.
As for the rest of the data, like takeoff distances, cruise speeds and
fuel flows, and rates of climb, being an obsessive former flight test
engineer I undertood a mini program using a combination of many flights
and accepted formulas to create what has been a reliable reference card
which presents all this information. Takeoff distance for weights from
1450# to 1684# and DA's from sea level to 8000' are in a table. Cruise
speeds and fuel flows are listed for DA's from 4000' to 15000' and rates
of climb for the entire weight range are listed from DA's of sea level
to 15000'. I have added a safety buffer to the calculations where it
seemed prudent and have had not had any surprises. Last year my wife
and I departed the Grand Canyon airport early in the morning. For the
reported conditions we lifted off and climbed out very close to the
performance predicted on the card. It was the first time we had the
airplane in a truly high DA situation at max weight and, at least on
that day, it did a good job..
Bill K.
No POH for an O320 in an AA1x: OK Bill, tell us, what do you do for
percent power in your O320 powered 2-seater? If you had a JPI 800, it
would display percent power for you. In fact, if you let my put in a
JPI 830, you will have, at all times, in one unit:
RPM, Manifold Pressure, EGT/CHT, Oil Temp, Oil Pressure, OAT, Volts,
Carb Temp, % power, EGT delta, Fuel Flow, Gallons used, Gallons
remaining, AND miles per gallon. And it takes up a lot less space than
you are currently occupying.
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