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1. 08:47 AM - Re: 1975 AA1B damage (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
2. 03:13 PM - Re: 1975 AA1B damage (Dj Merrill)
3. 05:00 PM - Re: 1975 AA1B damage (flyv35b)
4. 06:36 PM - Re: 1975 AA1B damage (Deems Herring)
5. 06:43 PM - Re: 1975 AA1B damage (Dj Merrill)
6. 10:29 PM - Re: 1975 AA1B damage (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
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| Subject: | Re: 1975 AA1B damage |
That looks like a pretty nasty wind.
If it were mine, I'd buy the AA1 that Fletcher is selling and replace all
the damaged parts; including the delaminating elevator.
Cliff knows a lot about the 2-seater. He might even have some good leads
on parts. Try Ken Blackman as well; he does a lot of 2-seaters.
Where are you that you had so much wind? Lancaster (Sandblaster) was very
windy. I landed a tail-wheel plane in a 60 knot wind there one day. I
landed on the numbers and my roll out was about 10 feet. Tail never came
down.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
Sent: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 3:16 pm
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: 1975 AA1B damage
We had a little wind storm last night, and the airplane next to mine
got away. It totaled the plane behind me, but only did some (hopefully)
minor damage to my plane (1975 AA1B).
The left elevator plastic tip has a crack and small piece taken out of
the aft, left edge.
The trim tab on the rudder was hit and bent over, and a couple of
shallow dents are in the right side of the rudder.
The tail tie down ring is bent as well as some of the area around it.
The right wing tie down ring is slightly bent.
I have pictures on my website at
<http://deej.net/yankee/damage/>
At a minimum I'll have to replace the left elevator tip and the trim
tab on the rudder. I may possibly have to replace the rudder and parts
near the tail tie down area. We haven't opened it up yet to get a good
look inside.
Would any of you be willing to share your expertise on what other
possible damage that we should be looking for?
Thanks,
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
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| Subject: | Re: 1975 AA1B damage |
On 2/27/2010 11:46 AM, teamgrumman@aol.com wrote:
> If it were mine, I'd buy the AA1 that Fletcher is selling and replace
> all the damaged parts; including the delaminating elevator.
Hi Gary,
I don't think there is that much damage. On the surface it looks like
I just need to replace the plastic elevator tip, and the rudder trim
tab, or at worst the whole rudder, and possibly some of the
reinforcement around the tail tie down ring. All of the damage should
be covered by insurance, but unless there is significant hidden damage I
can't see why it would be necessary to buy another whole plane for parts.
>
> Cliff knows a lot about the 2-seater. He might even have some good
> leads on parts. Try Ken Blackman as well; he does a lot of 2-seaters.
Thanks!
>
> Where are you that you had so much wind?
KIWI (Wiscasset, Maine). Off shore sensors hit 90mph that night (I'm
told), and KIWI is right off the ocean. I'm guessing we had at least 60
- 70 mph winds at the airport.
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
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| Subject: | Re: 1975 AA1B damage |
Since Insurance is paying the bill I'd replace the rudder as you won't be
able to fix the dent in it without showing most likely. You may need a
doubler inside the tail cone, depending on how badly the metal is torn and
bent from the eye. Take the wingtips off and see what damage there is to
the wing tie down eye attachments. They are attached with a small bracket
and nutplate that can be replaced. Also the points David made about the
ailerons is important. The plane was obviously pulling against the ropes
very hard.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Merrill" <deej@deej.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 1975 AA1B damage
>
> On 2/27/2010 11:46 AM, teamgrumman@aol.com wrote:
>> If it were mine, I'd buy the AA1 that Fletcher is selling and replace
>> all the damaged parts; including the delaminating elevator.
>
>
> Hi Gary,
> I don't think there is that much damage. On the surface it looks like
> I just need to replace the plastic elevator tip, and the rudder trim
> tab, or at worst the whole rudder, and possibly some of the
> reinforcement around the tail tie down ring. All of the damage should
> be covered by insurance, but unless there is significant hidden damage I
> can't see why it would be necessary to buy another whole plane for parts.
>
>>
>> Cliff knows a lot about the 2-seater. He might even have some good
>> leads on parts. Try Ken Blackman as well; he does a lot of 2-seaters.
>
> Thanks!
>
>>
>> Where are you that you had so much wind?
>
> KIWI (Wiscasset, Maine). Off shore sensors hit 90mph that night (I'm
> told), and KIWI is right off the ocean. I'm guessing we had at least 60
> - 70 mph winds at the airport.
>
> -Dj
>
> --
> Dj Merrill - N1JOV
> Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
> Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 1975 AA1B damage |
The aft fuselage bulkhead is primary structure so make sure the tail tie do
wn repair is performed with that in mind=2C see: http://www.bondline.org/wi
ki/Tail_Tiedown_Repair
Deems
AA1B N1491R
> From: flyv35b@minetfiber.com
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 1975 AA1B damage
> Date: Sat=2C 27 Feb 2010 16:59:48 -0800
>
>
>
> Since Insurance is paying the bill I'd replace the rudder as you won't be
> able to fix the dent in it without showing most likely. You may need a
> doubler inside the tail cone=2C depending on how badly the metal is torn
and
> bent from the eye. Take the wingtips off and see what damage there is to
> the wing tie down eye attachments. They are attached with a small bracke
t
> and nutplate that can be replaced. Also the points David made about the
> ailerons is important. The plane was obviously pulling against the ropes
> very hard.
>
> Cliff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dj Merrill" <deej@deej.net>
> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday=2C February 27=2C 2010 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 1975 AA1B damage
>
>
> >
> > On 2/27/2010 11:46 AM=2C teamgrumman@aol.com wrote:
> >> If it were mine=2C I'd buy the AA1 that Fletcher is selling and replac
e
> >> all the damaged parts=3B including the delaminating elevator.
> >
> >
> > Hi Gary=2C
> > I don't think there is that much damage. On the surface it looks like
> > I just need to replace the plastic elevator tip=2C and the rudder trim
> > tab=2C or at worst the whole rudder=2C and possibly some of the
> > reinforcement around the tail tie down ring. All of the damage should
> > be covered by insurance=2C but unless there is significant hidden damag
e I
> > can't see why it would be necessary to buy another whole plane for part
s.
> >
> >>
> >> Cliff knows a lot about the 2-seater. He might even have some good
> >> leads on parts. Try Ken Blackman as well=3B he does a lot of 2-seater
s.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >>
> >> Where are you that you had so much wind?
> >
> > KIWI (Wiscasset=2C Maine). Off shore sensors hit 90mph that night (I'm
> > told)=2C and KIWI is right off the ocean. I'm guessing we had at least
60
> > - 70 mph winds at the airport.
> >
> > -Dj
> >
> > --
> > Dj Merrill - N1JOV
> > Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
> > Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 1975 AA1B damage |
On 2/27/2010 9:36 PM, Deems Herring wrote:
> The aft fuselage bulkhead is primary structure so make sure the tail tie
> down repair is performed with that in mind, see:
> http://www.bondline.org/wiki/Tail_Tiedown_Repair
Thanks! That is an excellent reference.
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
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| Subject: | Re: 1975 AA1B damage |
Maine is one of only 4 sates I haven't visited. Maybe this year after the
convention.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
Sent: Sat, Feb 27, 2010 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 1975 AA1B damage
On 2/27/2010 11:46 AM, teamgrumman@aol.com wrote:
> If it were mine, I'd buy the AA1 that Fletcher is selling and replace
> all the damaged parts; including the delaminating elevator.
Hi Gary,
I don't think there is that much damage. On the surface it looks like
I just need to replace the plastic elevator tip, and the rudder trim
tab, or at worst the whole rudder, and possibly some of the
reinforcement around the tail tie down ring. All of the damage should
be covered by insurance, but unless there is significant hidden damage I
can't see why it would be necessary to buy another whole plane for parts.
>
> Cliff knows a lot about the 2-seater. He might even have some good
> leads on parts. Try Ken Blackman as well; he does a lot of 2-seaters.
Thanks!
>
> Where are you that you had so much wind?
KIWI (Wiscasset, Maine). Off shore sensors hit 90mph that night (I'm
told), and KIWI is right off the ocean. I'm guessing we had at least 60
- 70 mph winds at the airport.
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
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