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1. 05:41 AM - AYA dinner at SNF (Linn Walters)
2. 10:10 AM - Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling (teamgrumman@aol.com)
3. 10:23 AM - Re: AYA dinner at SNF (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
4. 10:46 AM - Re: AYA dinner at SNF (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
5. 12:33 PM - Re: AYA dinner at SNF (Linn Walters)
6. 02:27 PM - Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling (flyv35b)
7. 07:35 PM - Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling (Ned Thomas)
8. 09:42 PM - Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
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| Subject: | AYA dinner at SNF |
I'll have room for one in my truck.
Linn
cell 321 794-3989
> Hal B. has said that he will be at Buddy Freddy's at 6:30 pm on Friday
> evening. Buddy Freddy's is located just south of Interstate 4 at the
> Thonotosassa Road exit. Hal said that he will get together there with
> whoever shows up.
>
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| Subject: | Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling |
So, I talked to the DER about the AG5B and my cowling. All was going pret
ty well until he asked what else, besides the air box, was changed in the
AG5B. I told him, "They made it 24 volts." So, the FAA may want a climb
cooling test to see if the alternator on an AG5B runs hotter than an AA5B
.
What a pain in the ass.
-----Original Message-----
From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:41 pm
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
Here is something I ran into last night. The bottom cowling attach holes
on the late model (Tiger LLC) Tigers do not have the same spacing as real
Tigers. For some reason, the spacing is changed by 1/8 inch on the outbo
ard holes (the bottom corners and the holes near the strut) and as much as
1/2 inch for the holes between them. What a waste of engineering.
Not only that, but, that means the cowlings are not interchangeable with
AA5Bs. But, then, with the funky inlet, who'd want to? Right?
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| Subject: | Re: AYA dinner at SNF |
sounds like fun. if the creek don't rise, we'll be there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 5:38 am
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AYA dinner at SNF
I'll have room for one in my truck.
Linn
cell 321 794-3989
HalB. has said that he will be at BuddyFreddy=99s at 6:30 pm on Frid
ay evening. Buddy Freddy=99s islocated just south of Interstate 4
at the Thonotosassa Road exit. Halsaid that he will get together there
with whoever shows up.
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| Subject: | Re: AYA dinner at SNF |
Oh, wait. This is for SNF. We won't be going to that one.
-----Original Message-----
From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 10:17 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AYA dinner at SNF
sounds like fun. if the creek don't rise, we'll be there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 5:38 am
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AYA dinner at SNF
I'll have room for one in my truck.
Linn
cell 321 794-3989
HalB. has said that he will be at BuddyFreddy=99s at 6:30 pm on Frid
ay evening. Buddy Freddy=99s islocated just south of Interstate 4
at the Thonotosassa Road exit. Halsaid that he will get together there
with whoever shows up.
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| Subject: | Re: AYA dinner at SNF |
Spoil Sport!!! I don't like eating by myself!!!
Just so everyone knows ..... I'm still planning on dinner there ..... is
anyone else going to show up???
If dinner at Buddy Freddies looks like a bust, then I'll probably bail
out too.
Linn
teamgrumman@aol.com wrote:
> Oh, wait. This is for SNF. We won't be going to that one.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 10:17 am
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AYA dinner at SNF
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> sounds like fun. if the creek don't rise, we'll be there.
>
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> From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net
> <mailto:pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>>
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> Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 5:38 am
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AYA dinner at SNF
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> I'll have room for one in my truck.
> Linn
> cell 321 794-3989
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>> Hal B. has said that he will be at Buddy Freddys at 6:30 pm on
>> Friday evening. Buddy Freddys is located just south of Interstate 4
>> at the Thonotosassa Road exit. Hal said that he will get together
>> there with whoever shows up.
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| Subject: | Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling |
What makes them think it would run hotter just because it's 24 volts?
Also, It's on the cold side of the baffle and shouldn't see much engine
or exhaust heat. No real difference from an AA-5B is there?
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
So, I talked to the DER about the AG5B and my cowling. All was going
pretty well until he asked what else, besides the air box, was changed
in the AG5B. I told him, "They made it 24 volts." So, the FAA may want
a climb cooling test to see if the alternator on an AG5B runs hotter
than an AA5B.
What a pain in the ass.
-----Original Message-----
From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:41 pm
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
Here is something I ran into last night. The bottom cowling attach
holes on the late model (Tiger LLC) Tigers do not have the same spacing
as real Tigers. For some reason, the spacing is changed by 1/8 inch on
the outboard holes (the bottom corners and the holes near the strut) and
as much as 1/2 inch for the holes between them. What a waste of
engineering.
Not only that, but, that means the cowlings are not interchangeable
with AA5Bs. But, then, with the funky inlet, who'd want to? Right?
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| Subject: | Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling |
http://www.plane-power.com/Tech_bits_Comparing_Temps24.htm
Would the data above help?
Shows how much less temp the plane power alternator puts out than the
factory supplied alternator on the AG5B
My AG5B has this change
Also, the argument that the alternator cooling airflow betwen the
factory 12volt planes and the factory 24 volt planes is identical
should satisfy both the DER and the FAA
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On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:24 PM, "flyv35b" <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> wrote:
>
> What makes them think it would run hotter just because it's 24
> volts? Also, It's on the cold side of the baffle and shouldn't see
> much engine or exhaust heat. No real difference from an AA-5B is
> there?
>
> Cliff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: teamgrumman@aol.com
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
>
> So, I talked to the DER about the AG5B and my cowling. All was
> going pretty well until he asked what else, besides the air box, was
> changed in the AG5B. I told him, "They made it 24 volts." So, the
> FAA may want a climb cooling test to see if the alternator on an
> AG5B runs hotter than an AA5B.
>
> What a pain in the ass.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:41 pm
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
>
> Here is something I ran into last night. The bottom cowling attach
> holes on the late model (Tiger LLC) Tigers do not have the same
> spacing as real Tigers. For some reason, the spacing is changed by
> 1/8 inch on the outboard holes (the bottom corners and the holes
> near the strut) and as much as 1/2 inch for the holes between them.
> What a waste of engineering.
>
> Not only that, but, that means the cowlings are not interchangeable
> with AA5Bs. But, then, with the funky inlet, who'd want to? Right?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling |
The alternator on a Jaguar is open like it was on a Traveler. I have hole
s in the cabin heat duct that vent directly on the alternator. During tes
ts, the alternator was a little warmer, but not by enough to make a differ
ence.
Cliff, it's the FAA. Logic does not come into the picture.
-----Original Message-----
From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
What makes them think it would run hotter just because it's 24 volts? Als
o, It's on the cold side of the baffle and shouldn't see much engine or ex
haust heat. No real difference from an AA-5B is there?
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
So, I talked to the DER about the AG5B and my cowling. All was going pr
etty well until he asked what else, besides the air box, was changed in
the AG5B. I told him, "They made it 24 volts." So, the FAA may want
a climb cooling test to see if the alternator on an AG5B runs hotter th
an an AA5B.
What a pain in the ass.
-----Original Message-----
From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:41 pm
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
Here is something I ran into last night. The bottom cowling attach hole
s on the late model (Tiger LLC) Tigers do not have the same spacing as
real Tigers. For some reason, the spacing is changed by 1/8 inch on th
e outboard holes (the bottom corners and the holes near the strut) and
as much as 1/2 inch for the holes between them. What a waste of engine
ering.
Not only that, but, that means the cowlings are not interchangeable with
AA5Bs. But, then, with the funky inlet, who'd want to? Right?
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