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      We're 'negotiating' right now.  He has done a lot of modified alternators
       and thinks he can by-pass any testing based on his data and the previous
       flight test data.  Keep your fingers crossed.
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
      Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:29 am
      Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
      
      
      Gary, I didn't realize that was the case with your baffling.  That sounds
       like a welcome improvement for accessibility to the alternator.
      
      I realize that logic does not play an important role in their decision mak
      ing many times but it sounds like it is your DER that is making the decisi
      on as to whether another cooling test should be run or not.  Doesn't he ha
      ve the authority to make such a decision based on the facts and info avail
      able?
      
      Cliff
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From:   teamgrumman@aol.com 
      
      
      Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:42   PM
      
      Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and   the Jaguar cowling
      
      
      The alternator on a Jaguar   is open like it was on a Traveler.  I have ho
      les in the cabin heat duct   that vent directly on the alternator.  During
       tests, the alternator was a   little warmer, but not by enough to make a
       difference.   
      
      
      Cliff,  it's the FAA.  Logic does not come into the   picture.
      
      
      -----Original   Message-----
      From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
      Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 2:24 pm
      Subject:   Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling
      
      
      What makes them think it would run hotter just because it's 24   volts? 
       Also, It's on the cold side of the baffle and shouldn't see much   engine
       or exhaust heat.  No real difference from an AA-5B is there?
      
      
      Cliff
      
          
      ----- Original Message ----- 
          
      From:     teamgrumman@aol.com 
          
          
      Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:08     AM
          
      Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and     the Jaguar cowling
          
      
      
      So, I talked to the DER     about the AG5B and my cowling.  All was going
       pretty well until he     asked what else, besides the air box, was change
      d in the AG5B.  I told     him, "They made it 24 volts."  So, the FAA may
       want a climb cooling     test to see if the alternator on an AG5B runs ho
      tter than an AA5B.       
      
      
          
      What a pain in the ass.
      
          
      
      
          
      -----Original     Message-----
      From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
      Sent:     Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:41 pm
      Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar     cowling
      
          
      Here is something I ran into last night.  The bottom     cowling attach ho
      les on the late model (Tiger LLC) Tigers do not have the     same spacing
       as real Tigers.  For some reason, the spacing is changed     by 1/8 inch
       on the outboard holes (the bottom corners and the holes near the     stru
      t) and as much as 1/2 inch for the holes between them.  What a     waste
       of engineering.     
      
      
          
      Not only that, but, that means the cowlings are not interchangeable     wi
      th AA5Bs.  But, then, with the funky inlet, who'd want to?      Right?
      
          
      
      
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