---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/11/10: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:01 AM - Plane Power alternator (G Vogt) 2. 08:54 PM - tiger N28229 (n32romeo@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:20 AM PST US From: G Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Plane Power alternator Remember a few months ago when I asked what other's experience was with PP alternators? At the time, I had installed a new PP alternator that was very noisy. A couple of other PP owners also wrote to say theirs was noisy also. My customer sent his alternator to PP to have them check it. It came back saying it was in specs. It was still very noisy. He installed an overhauled Kelly alternator that was quiet. PP needs to tighten up their specs. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, teamgrumman@aol.com wrote: > We're 'negotiating' right now. He has done a lot of modified > alternators and thinks he can by-pass any testing based on his data > and the previous flight test data. Keep your fingers crossed. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: flyv35b > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:29 am > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling > > Gary, I didn't realize that was the case with your baffling. That > sounds like a welcome improvement for accessibility to the alternator. > > I realize that logic does not play an important role in their > decision making many times but it sounds like it is your DER that is > making the decision as to whether another cooling test should be run > or not. Doesn't he have the authority to make such a decision based > on the facts and info available? > > Cliff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:42 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling > > The alternator on a Jaguar is open like it was on a Traveler. I > have holes in the cabin heat duct that vent directly on the > alternator. During tests, the alternator was a little warmer, but > not by enough to make a difference. > > Cliff, it's the FAA. Logic does not come into the picture. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: flyv35b > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 2:24 pm > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling > > > What makes them think it would run hotter just because it's 24 > volts? Also, It's on the cold side of the baffle and shouldn't see > much engine or exhaust heat. No real difference from an AA-5B is > there? > > Cliff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:08 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling > > So, I talked to the DER about the AG5B and my cowling. All was > going pretty well until he asked what else, besides the air box, was > changed in the AG5B. I told him, "They made it 24 volts." So, the > FAA may want a climb cooling test to see if the alternator on an > AG5B runs hotter than an AA5B. > > What a pain in the ass. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:41 pm > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B and the Jaguar cowling > > Here is something I ran into last night. The bottom cowling attach > holes on the late model (Tiger LLC) Tigers do not have the same > spacing as real Tigers. For some reason, the spacing is changed by > 1/8 inch on the outboard holes (the bottom corners and the holes > near the strut) and as much as 1/2 inch for the holes between them. > What a waste of engineering. > > Not only that, but, that means the cowlings are not interchangeable > with AA5Bs. But, then, with the funky inlet, who'd want to? Right? > > > ator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com > ibution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > ator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com > ibution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > =================================== > ator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > =================================== > ttp://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > ibution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:31 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: tiger N28229 From: n32romeo@aol.com Geary, do you know a Gordon Harrison of Lancaster, CA? Seams I wound up through an E-Bay purchase a few years ago of the Supplemental Flight Manu al for his airplane. I did not notice the pages referencing his plane til l today. The FAA registry shows he has owned this plane since 1978. 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