TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive

Fri 06/04/10


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:11 PM - Re: oil check, alternator belt check, bird nest check (Gary Vogt)
     2. 12:24 PM - Re: PMA (Gary Vogt)
     3. 12:33 PM - Fw: W&B (Gary Vogt)
     4. 06:14 PM - Re: PMA (Phil Kelsey)
     5. 09:50 PM - Re: oil check, alternator belt check, bird nest check (James Courtney)
     6. 09:51 PM - Re: Fw: W&B (James Courtney)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:11:25 PM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Re: oil check, alternator belt check, bird nest check
    Birds can be a pain. The previous occupant of my hangar must have let birds and cats occupy the vacant planes he stored. Did he think the cats would keep the birds away? It took 3 years to get all of the cats to go away and not come back. Birds, well, the birds are back in force every year. I make it a habit of putting aluminum tape over the openings in the horizontal. Without it, it's a natural for birds. I had finished an annual on one plane, pulled it out of the hangar, the owner got in it and started the engine. In that length of time, say, 5 minutes, with the engine running, birds were flying into the horizontal openings. It was crazy. I've tried all of the tricks to keep birds away from planes. The CD thing doesn't work. I've even put fly paper on the VOR antennas and the birds just landed on the fly paper. I tried hanging lots of things on the VOR antennas. Nothing works. ________________________________ From: Anthony Dymond <amdymond@gmail.com> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 12:40:47 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: oil check, alternator belt check, bird nest check Hi All, It's the time of year when our feathered aviator buddies get interested in nest building. This (http://web.me.com/jophusdavid/Site/N111GG_Birds_Nest.html) developed in just a few days in one of our club planes at Concord, CA. (I don't have a Grumman, but after flying them in the 70's I always felt the Cheetah and Tiger were the best all-around GA planes.) Regards, Tony


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    Time: 12:24:07 PM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Re: PMA
    Phil, I thought about not having the top hinged. It's totally doable. If that were done, I would need an oil filler door. In the end, the ease of access with a hinge was kept. I talked to fabricator. He's in the process of restoring a Corvette for a customer. He said he could get started on a cowling by the middle of June. It takes about two weeks to get it delivered here. Usually, we each drive halfway and I pick up the parts from him. What part of the cowling would you like to see? How's this for close? Gary ________________________________ From: Phil Kelsey <Phil@ReliantAir.com> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 1:07:59 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: PMA Gary, What is your estimated delivery time after receiving order. Do you have any close in photos of the cowl details? Also, how practical would it be to eliminate the top hinge? Think we could get it done through 337? P. J. Kelsey Vice President/Co-owner ReliantAir From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 0:19 Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: PMA Hi John, I'm selling the kit, that includes the cowling pieces (left side, right side, upper cowling (needs to be cut in half)) and the 15 baffle pieces for $8500 plus shipping. As for the Power Flow, they offer deals every once in a while. I think Fletcher even has deals they could do. Depending on where you are, it wouldn't make sense for me to buy the PF system, have it shipped here, and then to your place. I've talked to Darren at PFS about making a special deal for cowling buyers and was pretty much told no. So, no special deals for me. Gary http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.15140 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/


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    Time: 12:33:16 PM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Fw: W&B
    ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: brian sandberg <sandbag23@hotmail.com> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 4:58:05 PM Subject: W&B I got the new W&B today. Another pound toward useful load! I washed it the other night and did a short high speed run at about 2000' DA and topped 150 KTAS. I need a USB-to-serial adapter to download the EDM; I'll do that this week. -Brian ________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more.


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    Time: 06:14:31 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Kelsey" <Phil@ReliantAir.com>
    Subject: PMA
    Thanks Gary, I am at a Flight Safety recurrent course this week. I'll be in touch next week to further explore putting in an order for the cowl. Phil P. J. Kelsey Vice President/Co-owner ReliantAir From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 15:20 Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: PMA Phil, I thought about not having the top hinged. It's totally doable. If that were done, I would need an oil filler door. In the end, the ease of access with a hinge was kept. I talked to fabricator. He's in the process of restoring a Corvette for a customer. He said he could get started on a cowling by the middle of June. It takes about two weeks to get it delivered here. Usually, we each drive halfway and I pick up the parts from him. What part of the cowling would you like to see? How's this for close? Gary _____ From: Phil Kelsey <Phil@ReliantAir.com> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 1:07:59 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: PMA Gary, What is your estimated delivery time after receiving order. Do you have any close in photos of the cowl details? Also, how practical would it be to eliminate the top hinge? Think we could get it done through 337? P. J. Kelsey Vice President/Co-owner ReliantAir From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 0:19 Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: PMA Hi John, I'm selling the kit, that includes the cowling pieces (left side, right side, upper cowling (needs to be cut in half)) and the 15 baffle pieces for $8500 plus shipping. As for the Power Flow, they offer deals every once in a while. I think Fletcher even has deals they could do. Depending on where you are, it wouldn't make sense for me to buy the PF system, have it shipped here, and then to your place. I've talked to Darren at PFS about making a special deal for cowling buyers and was pretty much told no. So, no special deals for me. Gary http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.15140 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.15150 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.15150 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/


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    Time: 09:50:32 PM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: oil check, alternator belt check, bird nest check
    You need(ed) a dog. Jamey From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: oil check, alternator belt check, bird nest check Birds can be a pain. The previous occupant of my hangar must have let birds and cats occupy the vacant planes he stored. Did he think the cats would keep the birds away? It took 3 years to get all of the cats to go away and not come back. Birds, well, the birds are back in force every year. I make it a habit of putting aluminum tape over the openings in the horizontal. Without it, it's a natural for birds. I had finished an annual on one plane, pulled it out of the hangar, the owner got in it and started the engine. In that length of time, say, 5 minutes, with the engine running, birds were flying into the horizontal openings. It was crazy. I've tried all of the tricks to keep birds away from planes. The CD thing doesn't work. I've even put fly paper on the VOR antennas and the birds just landed on the fly paper. I tried hanging lots of things on the VOR antennas. Nothing works. _____ From: Anthony Dymond <amdymond@gmail.com> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 12:40:47 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: oil check, alternator belt check, bird nest check Hi All, It's the time of year when our feathered aviator buddies get interested in nest building. This (http://web.me.com/jophusdavid/Site/N111GG_Birds_Nest.html) developed in just a few days in one of our club planes at Concord, CA. (I don't have a Grumman, but after flying them in the 70's I always felt the Cheetah and Tiger were the best all-around GA planes.) Regards, Tony Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 23:25:00


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    Time: 09:51:42 PM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: Fw: W&B
    Brian should consider getting the JPI USB adapter as the USB to serial adapters were pretty flaky in my experience. The JPI product is certainly overpriced but it lets one bring just a USB key with them instead of a notebook. Jamey From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fw: W&B ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: brian sandberg <sandbag23@hotmail.com> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 4:58:05 PM Subject: W&B I got the new W&B today. Another pound toward useful load! I washed it the other night and did a short high speed run at about 2000' DA and topped 150 KTAS. I need a USB-to-serial adapter to download the EDM; I'll do that this week. -Brian _____ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. <http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 23:25:00




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