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1. 12:35 PM - AYA Forum (Gary Vogt)
2. 01:22 PM - Re: AYA Forum (grumpyparts)
3. 02:39 PM - Re: AYA Forum (grumpyparts)
4. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: AYA Forum (Gary Vogt)
5. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: AYA Forum (Gary Vogt)
6. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: AYA Forum (Gary Vogt)
7. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: AYA Forum (Gary Vogt)
8. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: AYA Forum (Gary Vogt)
9. 07:03 PM - Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve (Bruce Smith)
10. 07:48 PM - Re: Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve (Gary Vogt)
11. 11:07 PM - Re: Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve (James Courtney)
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I was thinking about the AYA Forum this morning. Some thoughts,
(1) Since participation in the forum requires AYA membership and the forum moderator
needs to vett each applicant to the forum, that means
a. The problems with "BAD" people as Don says, or "NAUGHTY" people as Steve
says, means that there are bad or naughty people in the AYA over which no one
has control AFTER they sign up for the forum.
b. I've also been told that spammers and scammers are a problem on AYA forum.
Again, that would only come from AYA members. Must be a nefarious group.
c. IF AYA membership is required, why isn't the AYA membership number asked
for on the first line of the registration page?
d. IF AYA membership is required, why doesn't an approved user name and temporary
password come with the registration?
(2) Why can't the forum moderator block unwanted screen names, spam, and scams
after the fact and just trust everyone up front to be honest?
(3) The first two times I signed up, I got usernames and passwords, with the help
of the moderator. Each time, apparently, that username/password has expired
because I didn't use the forum. Does that mean that IF I want to keep my user
name I have to make X number of posts to the forum to remain active? If so,
why isn't that spelled out on the sign in page?
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This needs to be nipped in the bud. Somehow the message is not getting across.
You DO NOT need to be a AYA member to register and participate on the forum site.
It is for that reason that naughty/bad people who are not AYA members and
scamming the forum has lead Steve to have to change the registration process to
protect all users, AYA members and guests alike.
When this problem first became apparent the then AYA President made this statement
as to why the registration process had changed.
"The process for subscribing to the AYA Forum has changed. It was changed to help
fight against those 'unhelpful' jerks (I'd like to use stronger language here
but this is a family site !!) who try and infiltrate the system with spam,
unsavoury topics and porn links. The changes introduced by the Forum Administrator
- the brave and slim Steve Roberts.
Steve's new security measures have helped dramatically in reducing the naughty
people's attacks."
If you have problems with the AYA forum please direct them to the Steve Roberts
who administers it as per my previous post.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302876#302876
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"Each time, apparently, that username/password has expired because I didn't use
the forum. Does that mean that IF I want to keep my user name I have to make
X number of posts to the forum to remain active? If so, why isn't that spelled
out on the sign in page? "
I don't think so, but again Steve is your man to ask. Out of the 211 on the AYA
forum memberlist 128 have made no posts and are still registered. Does any of
your usernames still appear on the memberlist .?
However just like the TeamGrumman Forum this does appear under the FAQ banner.
( Q ) I registered in the past but cannot log in anymore!
( A ) The most likely reasons for this are: you entered an incorrect username
or password (check the email you were sent when you first registered) or the administrator
has deleted your account for some reason. If it is the latter case
then perhaps you did not post anything? It is usual for boards to periodically
remove users who have not posted anything so as to reduce the size of the database.
Try registering again and get involved in discussions.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302885#302885
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Grumpy,
You said the president made the statement,
"The process for subscribing to the AYA Forum has changed. It was changed to help
fight against those 'unhelpful' jerks (I'd like to use stronger language here
but this is a family site !!) who try and infiltrate the system with spam,
unsavoury topics and porn links. The changes introduced by the Forum Administrator
- the brave and slim Steve Roberts. Steve's new security measures have helped
dramatically in reducing the naughty people's attacks."
I didn't get that message. Where was that message posted? Is that message somewhere
on the AYA forum page accessible to non-members?
How about one of these ideas:
(1) Instead of going to the AYA forum registration page and letting the prospective
forum applicant spend his time filling out a form that is going to be rejected
anyway, change the registration page to simply say,
"We've been experiencing problems with spammers, scammers, naughty, and bad people
creating havoc with our site. We value your contributions and will do everything
in our power to make sure this forum is safe and secure. Until further
notice, please send Steve a personal email (and then giving the email, don't
hide it) stating your intentions to join the AYA forum." At that point, Steve
can determine if you meet the necessary qualifications to join.
or
(2) Instead of getting the message "Sorry, but this username has been disallowed."
and then blocking any further access, change the message to read,
"Thank you for joining the AYA forum. Please allow 24 hours to process your application."
This would give Steve 24 hours to determine if you meet the necessary
qualifications to join.
The message, "Sorry, but this username has been disallowed." only pissed me off.
It did not say why. It did not say what to do next. It did not suggest another,
more acceptable, name. It did nothing to endear me to the forum. I tried
my previous two login accounts and found they didn't work either 'due to inactivity.'
Not only that, but no where on the registration page is a link to
Steve.
________________________________
From: grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinternet.com>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 1:22:17 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: AYA Forum
This needs to be nipped in the bud. Somehow the message is not getting across.
You DO NOT need to be a AYA member to register and participate on the forum site.
It is for that reason that naughty/bad people who are not AYA members and
scamming the forum has lead Steve to have to change the registration process to
protect all users, AYA members and guests alike.
When this problem first became apparent the then AYA President made this statement
as to why the registration process had changed.
"The process for subscribing to the AYA Forum has changed. It was changed to help
fight against those 'unhelpful' jerks (I'd like to use stronger language here
but this is a family site !!) who try and infiltrate the system with spam,
unsavoury topics and porn links. The changes introduced by the Forum Administrator
- the brave and slim Steve Roberts.
Steve's new security measures have helped dramatically in reducing the naughty
people's attacks."
If you have problems with the AYA forum please direct them to the Steve Roberts
who administers it as per my previous post.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302876#302876
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I just found a third user name on forum, looking at members. I haven saved the
password for that one.
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From: grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinternet.com>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 2:39:07 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: AYA Forum
"Each time, apparently, that username/password has expired because I didn't use
the forum. Does that mean that IF I want to keep my user name I have to make
X number of posts to the forum to remain active? If so, why isn't that spelled
out on the sign in page? "
I don't think so, but again Steve is your man to ask. Out of the 211 on the AYA
forum memberlist 128 have made no posts and are still registered. Does any of
your usernames still appear on the memberlist .?
However just like the TeamGrumman Forum this does appear under the FAQ banner.
( Q ) I registered in the past but cannot log in anymore!
( A ) The most likely reasons for this are: you entered an incorrect username
or password (check the email you were sent when you first registered) or the administrator
has deleted your account for some reason. If it is the latter case
then perhaps you did not post anything? It is usual for boards to periodically
remove users who have not posted anything so as to reduce the size of the database.
Try registering again and get involved in discussions.
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Got it. My old email works.
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From: grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinternet.com>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 2:39:07 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: AYA Forum
"Each time, apparently, that username/password has expired because I didn't use
the forum. Does that mean that IF I want to keep my user name I have to make
X number of posts to the forum to remain active? If so, why isn't that spelled
out on the sign in page? "
I don't think so, but again Steve is your man to ask. Out of the 211 on the AYA
forum memberlist 128 have made no posts and are still registered. Does any of
your usernames still appear on the memberlist .?
However just like the TeamGrumman Forum this does appear under the FAQ banner.
( Q ) I registered in the past but cannot log in anymore!
( A ) The most likely reasons for this are: you entered an incorrect username
or password (check the email you were sent when you first registered) or the administrator
has deleted your account for some reason. If it is the latter case
then perhaps you did not post anything? It is usual for boards to periodically
remove users who have not posted anything so as to reduce the size of the database.
Try registering again and get involved in discussions.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302885#302885
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I tried to get my password and used my current email.
The e-mail address you supplied does not match the one listed for that username.
Great. Now what? Start guessing at my email?
________________________________
From: grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinternet.com>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 2:39:07 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: AYA Forum
"Each time, apparently, that username/password has expired because I didn't use
the forum. Does that mean that IF I want to keep my user name I have to make
X number of posts to the forum to remain active? If so, why isn't that spelled
out on the sign in page? "
I don't think so, but again Steve is your man to ask. Out of the 211 on the AYA
forum memberlist 128 have made no posts and are still registered. Does any of
your usernames still appear on the memberlist .?
However just like the TeamGrumman Forum this does appear under the FAQ banner.
( Q ) I registered in the past but cannot log in anymore!
( A ) The most likely reasons for this are: you entered an incorrect username
or password (check the email you were sent when you first registered) or the administrator
has deleted your account for some reason. If it is the latter case
then perhaps you did not post anything? It is usual for boards to periodically
remove users who have not posted anything so as to reduce the size of the database.
Try registering again and get involved in discussions.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302885#302885
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still waiting to get my password sent to my old email . . . . .
________________________________
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 3:29:27 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: AYA Forum
Got it. My old email works.
________________________________
From: grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinternet.com>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 2:39:07 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: AYA Forum
"Each time, apparently, that username/password has expired because I didn't use
the forum. Does that mean that IF I want to keep my user name I have to make
X number of posts to the forum to remain active? If so, why isn't that spelled
out on the sign in page? "
I don't think so, but again Steve is your man to ask. Out of the 211 on the AYA
forum memberlist 128 have made no posts and are still registered. Does any of
your usernames still appear on the memberlist .?
However just like the TeamGrumman Forum this does appear under the FAQ banner.
( Q ) I registered in the past but cannot log in anymore!
( A ) The most likely reasons for this are: you entered an incorrect username
or password (check the email you were sent when you first registered)
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| Subject: | Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve |
Gary.
Would you 'splain why an angle valve engine is preferable to a parallel valve engine.
Thanks
Bruce Smith
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| Subject: | Re: Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve |
>From a horsepower point-of-view, the angle valve head flows better. The valves
are angles more toward the ports. But, the difference really isn't that much.
The 200 hp angle valve uses 8.7:1 compression ratio. If the parallel valve
O360 had 8.7:1 compression ratio, it would make 200 hp also.
The biggest difference is the angle valve head had better cooling fins. Therefore,
if it makes more heat (horsepower) it can shed the heat better.
If you consider weight, the parallel valve is better hp/lb.
________________________________
From: Bruce Smith <haveblue1@mac.com>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 6:55:16 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve
Gary.
Would you 'splain why an angle valve engine is preferable to a parallel valve engine.
Thanks
Bruce Smith
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| Subject: | Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve |
Would it really make more heat though? You've more efficiently converting
fuel and oxygen to mechanical energy with the higher compression ratio.
This said you're also incurring higher internal pressures which tends to
transfer more heat to the cylinder and head. I wonder what the actual
behavior is? Probably a bit more heat as you say since more energy is being
extracted even if greater efficiency is at play.
Jamey
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve
>From a horsepower point-of-view, the angle valve head flows better. The
valves are angles more toward the ports. But, the difference really isn't
that much. The 200 hp angle valve uses 8.7:1 compression ratio. If the
parallel valve O360 had 8.7:1 compression ratio, it would make 200 hp also.
The biggest difference is the angle valve head had better cooling fins.
Therefore, if it makes more heat (horsepower) it can shed the heat better.
If you consider weight, the parallel valve is better hp/lb.
_____
From: Bruce Smith <haveblue1@mac.com>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 6:55:16 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Angle Valve vs. Parallel Valve
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
23:37:00
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