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1. 07:29 AM - Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Mark T. Mueller)
2. 12:39 PM - Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Gary Vogt)
3. 12:45 PM - Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Gary Vogt)
4. 12:49 PM - Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. (Gary Vogt)
5. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Gary Vogt)
6. 01:40 PM - Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. (Scott Trejo)
7. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Scott Trejo)
8. 02:16 PM - Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. (Bruce Smith)
9. 02:51 PM - Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Phil Kelsey)
10. 06:13 PM - Trim creep (brian sandberg)
11. 08:00 PM - Re: Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Gary Vogt)
12. 08:00 PM - Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. (Gary Vogt)
13. 08:02 PM - Re: Trim creep (Gary Vogt)
14. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling (Brock Windsor)
15. 09:57 PM - Re: fabricating your own parts (discover)
16. 09:59 PM - Re: Power Flow Exhaust fairings (discover)
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| Subject: | RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling |
Time: 10:03:11 AM PST US
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
I heard that AJ posted to the GG about the deal on the Jaguar cowling. So far,
I've heard nothing.
Can't seem to give 'em away.
___________________________________________________________
Gary,
I am interested, but would like what the "fly-away" cost really looks like.
I understand you buy the cowling...
Then I would have to upgrade my PF exhaust from the Donkey D style to
the internal...
Then you have to install, then remove for paint...
Any other hardware, accessory or other necessary costs associated with
installation?
Latches, hinges? Will my nose bowl landing light work in the new
cowling, or do I need a new light system as well?
I really am interested, but I don't need any more wall-ornaments!
It's the 'hidden costs' that are a killer...
Thanks,
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling |
I talked with Darrin at Power Flow about offering a deal to the 10 people who
order the cowling. He's working on it.
________________________________
From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 11:14:24 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
On 10/11/2010 1:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
I heard that AJ posted to the GG about the deal on the Jaguar cowling.
So far, I've heard nothing.
>
>
>Can't seem to give 'em away.
>
I missed the email where you were giving them away. I'll take a free one
.... even though I don't have a use for it.
Hope that makes you feel better.
Tell ya what .... I'll even pick up the shipping!!! :-D
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: deal on the Jaguar cowling |
Brock,
hold that thought. I may need to start taking credit cards.
________________________________
From: Brock Windsor <n2_narcosis@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 5:57:26 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
Gary,
If it is any consolation I want one, I just can't afford it and the powerflow
as well. Do you do payment plans?
Brock
--- On Mon, 10/11/10, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
>To: "Teamgrumman List" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
>Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:00 PM
>
>
>
>I heard that AJ posted to the GG about the deal on the Jaguar cowling. So far,
>I've heard nothing.
>
>
>Can't seem to give 'em away.
>
>
> st" rel=nofollow
>target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listet=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. |
Find a good prop shop that knows what they are doing. When you find one, talk
to the guy himself about pitching the prop to 65-63-61 or 65-64-63 hub to tip.
You'll see about 2 knots over a similar straight pitch (63 or 64, plus pick up
a 100 fpm climb.
magic pixie dust
________________________________
From: Scott Trejo <md11strejo@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 6:18:25 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling.
Gary, I think I have the wife convinced that I need the new cowling, deposit
to follow soon. Did you change the exit ramp design with the new cowling?
Between the new baffles and the new inlet design what can I expect for CHT
temp's? Speed? I have the Lycon modified cylinders with about 300hrs on the
engine. ( I think its a strong engine even without the powerflow exhaust ) I'm
also sending my prop off to get re-pitched from 62" to 64"
Scott Trejo
md11strejo@yahoo.com
On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
Right now, this is what I have. Nothing hard (i.e., no deposit) decisions made.
>
>
>1. Patrick Alsup
>2. Scott Trejo
>3. Matt Drazal
>4. Hal Beauchesne (if I can get him to buy a PFS)
>5. Bob Stewart (not sure if he wants one or just wants to install one.)
>6. Boris V.
>
>
>RJ, can you post my offer for a reduced price on the cowling to the 'other'
>forum. I'm not on it. Thanks.
>
>
>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling |
Hi Mark,
All very good questions.
As delivered, the cowling should (optimum world) fit with just trimming to the
'end-of-part' lines. I'll try a couple just to make sure.
In the original installation instructions, the baffles needed to be mostly
fabricated from an RV6 baffle set. That no longer applies. I've spent
waaaaaytooooo much time and money fine tuning the baffles. They will fit with
minor trim and rivets.
You'll need a centerline hinge from Fletcher. Get one that has had the plastic
removed before it was riveted together. Get one that ISN'T painted. For some
reason, on the last several I've received, the plastic has been left on one side
and then the whole piece is painted with rattle can primer. It looks very
hacked. With a clean, no paint hinge, you can mask it after install, prime and
paint the upper cowling, and leave the hinge silver. Looks good. Plus, the
paint won't crack and look like shit the first time you open the cowling.
The landing light housing I use takes the stock landing light hardware. If it
takes longer than 5 minutes to install (after you install the nut plates),
you're doing something wrong.
The cowling is held down by #4 or #5 cam locks. Depends on how much paint is on
there. Mine uses #5, the last one, Ned's used #4. You'll need 10 cam-lock
studs, retainer rings, and receptacles.
That's about it.
Gary
________________________________
From: Mark T. Mueller <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 7:26:04 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling
<mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
Time: 10:03:11 AM PST US
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
I heard that AJ posted to the GG about the deal on the Jaguar cowling. So far,
I've heard nothing.
Can't seem to give 'em away.
___________________________________________________________
Gary,
I am interested, but would like what the "fly-away" cost really looks like.
I understand you buy the cowling...
Then I would have to upgrade my PF exhaust from the Donkey D style to
the internal...
Then you have to install, then remove for paint...
Any other hardware, accessory or other necessary costs associated with
installation?
Latches, hinges? Will my nose bowl landing light work in the new
cowling, or do I need a new light system as well?
I really am interested, but I don't need any more wall-ornaments!
It's the 'hidden costs' that are a killer...
Thanks,
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. |
Gary, Thanks for the information on the prop, and if PF can make us a
deal thats even sweeter.
Scott Trejo
On Oct 12, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> Find a good prop shop that knows what they are doing. When you find
one, talk to the guy himself about pitching the prop to 65-63-61 or
65-64-63 hub to tip. You'll see about 2 knots over a similar straight
pitch (63 or 64, plus pick up a 100 fpm climb.
>
> magic pixie dust
>
> From: Scott Trejo <md11strejo@YAHOO.COM>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 6:18:25 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling.
>
> Gary, I think I have the wife convinced that I need the new
cowling, deposit to follow soon. Did you change the exit ramp design
with the new cowling? Between the new baffles and the new inlet design
what can I expect for CHT temp's? Speed? I have the Lycon modified
cylinders with about 300hrs on the engine. ( I think its a strong
engine even without the powerflow exhaust ) I'm also sending my prop
off to get re-pitched from 62" to 64"
>
> Scott Trejo
> md11strejo@yahoo.com
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>
>> Right now, this is what I have. Nothing hard (i.e., no deposit)
decisions made.
>>
>> 1. Patrick Alsup
>> 2. Scott Trejo
>> 3. Matt Drazal
>> 4. Hal Beauchesne (if I can get him to buy a PFS)
>> 5. Bob Stewart (not sure if he wants one or just wants to install
one.)
>> 6. Boris V.
>>
>>
>> RJ, can you post my offer for a reduced price on the cowling to the
'other' forum. I'm not on it. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.ma
tronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com"
>http://forums.matronics.com
>>
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co
ntribution
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| Subject: | Re: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling |
Gary, Did you ever make the upper cowling 1 piece, no center hinge for
doors? If its a option I would like no doors except an oil dip stick
door.
Scott Trejo
On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> All very good questions.
>
> As delivered, the cowling should (optimum world) fit with just
trimming to the 'end-of-part' lines. I'll try a couple just to make
sure.
>
> In the original installation instructions, the baffles needed to be
mostly fabricated from an RV6 baffle set. That no longer applies. I've
spent waaaaay tooooo much time and money fine tuning the baffles. They
will fit with minor trim and rivets.
>
> You'll need a centerline hinge from Fletcher. Get one that has had
the plastic removed before it was riveted together. Get one that ISN'T
painted. For some reason, on the last several I've received, the
plastic has been left on one side and then the whole piece is painted
with rattle can primer. It looks very hacked. With a clean, no paint
hinge, you can mask it after install, prime and paint the upper cowling,
and leave the hinge silver. Looks good. Plus, the paint won't crack
and look like shit the first time you open the cowling.
>
> The landing light housing I use takes the stock landing light
hardware. If it takes longer than 5 minutes to install (after you
install the nut plates), you're doing something wrong.
>
> The cowling is held down by #4 or #5 cam locks. Depends on how much
paint is on there. Mine uses #5, the last one, Ned's used #4. You'll
need 10 cam-lock studs, retainer rings, and receptacles.
>
> That's about it.
>
> Gary
>
> From: Mark T. Mueller <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 7:26:04 AM
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling
>
<mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
>
> Time: 10:03:11 AM PST US
> From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
>
> I heard that AJ posted to the GG about the deal on the Jaguar cowling.
So far,
>
> I've heard nothing.
>
> Can't seem to give 'em away.
> ___________________________________________________________
>
> Gary,
>
> I am interested, but would like what the "fly-away" cost really looks
like.
>
> I understand you buy the cowling...
>
> Then I would have to upgrade my PF exhaust from the Donkey D style to
> the internal...
>
> Then you have to install, then remove for paint...
>
> Any other hardware, accessory or other necessary costs associated with
> installation?
>
> Latches, hinges? Will my nose bowl landing light
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. |
Gary,
Do you have a shop that specializes in the magic pixie dust?
Bruce
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:46 -0700, Gary Vogt wrote:
> Find a good prop shop that knows what they are doing. When you find
> one, talk to the guy himself about pitching the prop to 65-63-61 or
> 65-64-63 hub to tip. You'll see about 2 knots over a similar
> straight pitch (63 or 64, plus pick up a 100 fpm climb.
>
>
> magic pixie dust
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From: Scott Trejo <md11strejo@YAHOO.COM>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 6:18:25 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling.
>
> Gary, I think I have the wife convinced that I need the new
> cowling, deposit to follow soon. Did you change the exit ramp
> design with the new cowling? Between the new baffles and the new
> inlet design what can I expect for CHT temp's? Speed? I have the
> Lycon modified cylinders with about 300hrs on the engine. ( I think
> its a strong engine even without the powerflow exhaust ) I'm also
> sending my prop off to get re-pitched from 62" to 64"
>
>
> Scott Trejo
> md11strejo@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>
> > Right now, this is what I have. Nothing hard (i.e., no deposit)
> > decisions made.
> >
> >
> > 1. Patrick Alsup
> > 2. Scott Trejo
> > 3. Matt Drazal
> > 4. Hal Beauchesne (if I can get him to buy a PFS)
> > 5. Bob Stewart (not sure if he wants one or just wants to install
> > one.)
> > 6. Boris V.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RJ, can you post my offer for a reduced price on the cowling to the
> > 'other' forum. I'm not on it. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
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| Subject: | deal on the Jaguar cowling |
Gary, I=99m ready to send a deposit for a cowling for a 1979 tiger
with existing short stack Power Flo. Need to know where to send it and
what happens if you don=99t reach the magic ten.
I do have a few questions:
1. Can you post some pictures on your web site or send me pics
with enough detail to show where cam locks are installed, what the aft
cooling ramps look like from inside and outside the cowl,
What the nose strut accommodation looks like, and some pics of the
baffle installation.
2. Could the top cowling be installed without the hinge and adding
an oil door using a field approval? What=99s your best guess.
3. Is the aft portion of the top cowling attached using cam locks
or does it float like the oem one?
4. Is the whole cowling held together with cam locks or just the
top cowl to the bottom?
5. Can I use the existing rubber nose strut boot? Or what is the
method used to accommodate the nose strut?
6. I assume there is no measureable speed increase, correct?
7. Do you have any data on the Delta T in =81=B0F between
cylinders 1 & 3 and 2 & 5 with the new cowl?
Other than question two most of my questions can be addressed with
detailed pics.
Phil Kelsey
Reliant Air
Danbury, CT 06810
(203) 743-5100
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During several hours of 141kt cruise at 11.5k=2C smooth air=2C with an aft
cg I continually experienced nose-up trim creep. Didn't believe it at firs
t=2C but visually confirmed the wheel slowly turning. Ever heard of this?
Gary rebuilt the arms in August=2C so maybe the system is devoid sufficien
t friction- sure feels smooth. It would have been annoying in IMC=2C but w
as easily solved by shoving a pen adjacent the wheel.
-Brian
N119ST @ KCRG (for a couple of months)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling |
No, it's split like the original.
________________________________
From: Scott Trejo <md11strejo@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 1:43:09 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling
Gary, Did you ever make the upper cowling 1 piece, no center hinge for doors?
If its a option I would like no doors except an oil dip stick door.
Scott Trejo
On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
Hi Mark,
>
>
>All very good questions.
>
>
>As delivered, the cowling should (optimum world) fit with just trimming to the
>'end-of-part' lines. I'll try a couple just to make sure.
>
>
>In the original installation instructions, the baffles needed to be mostly
>fabricated from an RV6 baffle set. That no longer applies. I've spent waaaaay
>tooooo much time and money fine tuning the baffles. They will fit with minor
>trim and rivets.
>
>
>You'll need a centerline hinge from Fletcher. Get one that has had the plastic
>removed before it was riveted together. Get one that ISN'T painted. For some
>reason, on the last several I've received, the plastic has been left on one side
>and then the whole piece is painted with rattle can primer. It looks very
>hacked. With a clean, no paint hinge, you can mask it after install, prime and
>paint the upper cowling, and leave the hinge silver. Looks good. Plus, the
>paint won't crack and look like shit the first time you open the cowling.
>
>
>The landing light housing I use takes the stock landing light hardware. If it
>takes longer than 5 minutes to install (after you install the nut plates),
>you're doing something wrong.
>
>
>The cowling is held down by #4 or #5 cam locks. Depends on how much paint is
on
>there. Mine uses #5, the last one, Ned's used #4. You'll need 10 cam-lock
>studs, retainer rings, and receptacles.
>
>
>That's about it.
>
>
>Gary
>
>
________________________________
From: Mark T. Mueller <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 7:26:04 AM
>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling
>
><mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
>
>Time: 10:03:11 AM PST US
>From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
>
>I heard that AJ posted to the GG about the deal on the Jaguar cowling. So far,
>
>I've heard nothing.
>
>Can't seem to give 'em away.
>___________________________________________________________
>
>Gary,
>
>I am interested, but would like what the "fly-away" cost really looks like.
>
>I understand you buy the cowling...
>
>Then I would have to upgrade my PF exhaust from the Donkey D style to
>the internal...
>
>Then you have to install, then remove for paint...
>
>Any other hardware, accessory or other necessary costs associated with
>installation?
>
>Latches, hinges? Will my nose bowl landing light
>
>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling. |
I do here in California.
________________________________
From: Bruce Smith <haveblue1@mac.com>
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 2:12:45 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling.
Gary,
Do you have a shop that specializes in the magic pixie dust?
Bruce
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:46 -0700, Gary Vogt wrote:
> Find a good prop shop that knows what they are doing. When you find
> one, talk to the guy himself about pitching the prop to 65-63-61 or
> 65-64-63 hub to tip. You'll see about 2 knots over a similar
> straight pitch (63 or 64, plus pick up a 100 fpm climb.
>
>
> magic pixie dust
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From: Scott Trejo <md11strejo@YAHOO.COM>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 6:18:25 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Shows interest in the Jaguar cowling.
>
> Gary, I think I have the wife convinced that I need the new
> cowling, deposit to follow soon. Did you change the exit ramp
> design with the new cowling? Between the new baffles and the new
> inlet design what can I expect for CHT temp's? Speed? I have the
> Lycon modified cylinders with about 300hrs on the engine. ( I think
> its a strong engine even without the powerflow exhaust ) I'm also
> sending my prop off to get re-pitched from 62" to 64"
>
>
> Scott Trejo
> md11strejo@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>
> > Right now, this is what I have. Nothing hard (i.e., no deposit)
> > decisions made.
> >
> >
> > 1. Patrick Alsup
> > 2. Scott Trejo
> > 3. Matt Drazal
> > 4. Hal Beauchesne (if I can get him to buy a PFS)
> > 5. Bob Stewart (not sure if he wants one or just wants to install
> > one.)
> > 6. Boris V.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RJ, can you post my offer for a reduced price on the cowling to the
> > 'other' forum. I'm not on it. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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No matter what I do, someone complains. Sheeesh.
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From: brian sandberg <sandbag23@msn.com>
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 6:11:19 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Trim creep
During several hours of 141kt cruise at 11.5k, smooth air, with an aft cg I
continually experienced nose-up trim creep. Didn't believe it at first, but
visually confirmed the wheel slowly turning. Ever heard of this? Gary rebuilt
the arms in August, so maybe the system is devoid sufficient friction- sure
feels smooth. It would have been annoying in IMC, but was easily solved by
shoving a pen adjacent the wheel.
-Brian
N119ST @ KCRG (for a couple of months)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling |
Gary,
-- So you use the same hinge the factory upper cowling uses with camloc
ks to hold the-halves down instead of the crappy latches and the nosebowl
and lower is one piece that-is split vertically for easy access to alter
nator?
-
Brock
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, Scott Trejo <md11strejo@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
From: Scott Trejo <md11strejo@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling
Gary, -Did you ever make the upper cowling 1 piece, -no center hinge fo
r doors? - -If its a option I would like no doors except an oil dip sti
ck door.
Scott Trejo
On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
Hi Mark,
All very good questions.
As delivered, the cowling should (optimum world) fit with just trimming to
the 'end-of-part' lines. -I'll try a couple just to make sure.
In the original installation instructions, the baffles needed to be mostly
fabricated from an RV6 baffle set. -That no longer applies. -I've spent
waaaaay tooooo much time and money fine tuning the baffles. -They will f
it with minor trim and rivets.
You'll need a centerline hinge from Fletcher. -Get one that has had the p
lastic removed before it was riveted together. -Get one that ISN'T painte
d. -For some reason, on the last several I've received, the plastic has b
een left on one side and then the whole piece is painted with rattle can pr
imer. -It looks very hacked. -With a clean, no paint hinge, you can mas
k it after install, prime and paint the upper cowling, and leave the hinge
silver. -Looks good. -Plus, the paint won't crack and look like shit th
e first time you open the cowling.
The landing light housing I use takes the stock landing light hardware. -
If it takes longer than 5 minutes to install (after you install the nut pla
tes), you're doing something wrong.
The cowling is held down by #4 or #5 cam locks. -Depends on how much pain
t is on there. -Mine uses #5, the last one, Ned's used #4. -You'll need
10 cam-lock studs, retainer rings, and receptacles. -
That's about it.
Gary
From:-Mark T. Mueller <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
To:-teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent:-Tue, October 12, 2010 7:26:04 AM
Subject:-TeamGrumman-List: RE: deal on the Jaguar cowling
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Time: 10:03:11 AM PST US
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: deal on the Jaguar cowling
I heard that AJ posted to the GG about the deal on the Jaguar cowling. -S
o far,
I've heard nothing.
Can't seem to give 'em away.
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Gary,
I am interested, but would like what the "fly-away" cost really looks like.
I understand you buy the cowling...
Then I would have to upgrade my PF exhaust from the Donkey D style to
the internal...
Then you have to install, then remove for paint...
Any other hardware, accessory or other necessary costs associated with
installation?
Latches, hinges? -Will my nose bowl landing light
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| Subject: | Re: fabricating your own parts |
see page 6:
http://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_guidance_library/rgorders.nsf/0/d1d550bbc2c82dd386257472005724ef/$FILE/Order%208110.42C.pdf
d. Aircraft Owners or Operators. Owners and operators may produce parts for installation
on their own product without a PMA. The installation of these parts
must comply with applicable airworthiness standards. If an owner or operator intends
to sell a part for installation on another owners aircraft, then that owner
or operator requires a PMA.
Good Review here:
http://150cessna.tripod.com/parts.html
Another one here:
http://www.stinsonvoyager.com/Owner%20Produced%20Parts.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Power Flow Exhaust fairings |
Gary,
Which one of these would be best for my Tiger?
Or do you have a new one that works even better your working on?
Thanks,
ned
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