---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/19/10: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:09 PM - Ignition switch (Gary Vogt) 2. 03:19 PM - Re: Ignition switch (Linn Walters) 3. 03:35 PM - Re: Ignition switch (FLYaDIVE) 4. 04:30 PM - Fw: Follow-up from Power Flow Re: Volume Purchase Discount (Gary Vogt) 5. 07:37 PM - Re: Ignition switch (Gary Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:37 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Ignition switch I lost the key to the Project X plane. As a rule, I keep all the keys either in the ignition or on a hook near my work bench. I've torn the hangar apart several times in the last 3 months. I have been through all of the little nooks and crannies that I normal hide things. I have been through the binders and folders that came with the plane at least a dozen times. Nothing. No key. So, I took the ignition switch out to see if I could get the tumbler out and get a key made. I can't see how it comes apart. PLUS, it's very difficult to move the switch around; it's tied very tightly to the wire bundle. My questions are: Does someone know how to get the switch apart? Is there another way to get a new key made? Is my only option buying a new switch? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:21 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Ignition switch On 10/19/2010 6:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > I lost the key to the Project X plane. > > As a rule, I keep all the keys either in the ignition or on a hook > near my work bench. I've torn the hangar apart several times in the > last 3 months. I have been through all of the little nooks and > crannies that I normal hide things. I have been through the binders > and folders that came with the plane at least a dozen times. Nothing. > No key. > > So, I took the ignition switch out to see if I could get the tumbler > out and get a key made. I can't see how it comes apart. PLUS, it's > very difficult to move the switch around; it's tied very tightly to > the wire bundle. > > My questions are: Does someone know how to get the switch apart? Most of the switches I've seen have screws that hold the phenolic/plastic back plate (where the wires attach) on. However, I don't recommend taking the back off without disconnecting the wires. The 'shorting bar'(s) will fall out easily. > Is there another way to get a new key made? Maybe .... call you friendly locksmith. I'm sure he has 'airplane rates'!!! :-P > Is my only option buying a new switch? Depends on how friendly your locksmith is! Gotta be a way to re-key. Linn > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:35:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Ignition switch From: FLYaDIVE Gary: Try going to an FBO that does training. My FBO has a key ring the size of a softball filled with keys. Try a local A&P (other than yourself), I have a ring of keys to fit about half the planes at my field. Count about 12. Barry On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > I lost the key to the Project X plane. > > As a rule, I keep all the keys either in the ignition or on a hook near my > work bench. I've torn the hangar apart several times in the last 3 months. > I have been through all of the little nooks and crannies that I normal hide > things. I have been through the binders and folders that came with the > plane at least a dozen times. Nothing. No key. > > So, I took the ignition switch out to see if I could get the tumbler out > and get a key made. I can't see how it comes apart. PLUS, it's very > difficult to move the switch around; it's tied very tightly to the wire > bundle. > > My questions are: Does someone know how to get the switch apart? Is there > another way to get a new key made? Is my only option buying a new switch? > > * > > * > > -- Barry "Chop'd Liver" ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:13 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fw: Follow-up from Power Flow re: Volume Purchase Discount Darrin is willing to work with me to get a real deal on the Power Flow if y ou =0Awant the cowling. Bottom line is, the PFS can be purchased for as li ttle as =0A$3112.=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Jim Shafer < jim@powerflowsystems.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman@yahoo.com=0ASent: Tue, October 19, 2010 3:05:11 PM=0ASubject: Follow-up from Power Flow re: Volume Purchas e Discount=0A=0A =0AHello Gary ,=0A =0AThank you for taking my call yester day afternoon and for your interest in =0Aincluding out Tuned Exhaust Syste m with your new cowling for the Tiger.=0A =0AAs we discussed, the table bel ow outlines the list pricing and your volume based =0Adiscounted pricing fo r any Power Flow Tuned Exhaust Systems you sell in =0Aconjunction with one of your new cowlings:=0A =0APFS-13803=0AFor Grumman AA-5B & AG-5B List Pric e Less Special AU Country Discount AU Country =0APrice Less Standard Dealer Discount for Quantity 1=93 4 (15%) Less =0ADealer Disco unt for Quantity 5-7 (20%) Less Dealer Discount for =0AQuantity 8-10 (22.5%) =0A=0AShort Stack / Polished Tail Pipe $4,290.00 -$ 400.00 $3,890.00 -$583.50 -$778.00 =0A-$875.25 =0A=0AOptional Ceramic Coate d Tail Pipe $200.00 -$20.00 $180.00 -$27.00 -$36.00 =0A-$40.50 =0A=0A =0A =0AThe Terms and Conditions associated with this special offer are as follo ws:=0A =0A1.) Pricing shown is based on current list price for Power Flo w=99s =9CShort =0AStack=9D system with a polished stainle ss steel finish on the tail pipe. =0A Alternate configurations will affect the Unit Price paid, but the Discount =0ALevel shown will apply to all syst ems ordered. =0A=0A =0A2.) Packing and Shipping via UPS Ground ($130.00 per system to CA) is not =0Aincluded in the above prices.=0A =0A3.) As ea ch successive discount level is reached, the higher applicable =0Adiscount will be applied retroactively to all systems purchased. For example: =0AIf you purchase a total of five (5) Power Flow Tuned Exhaust Systems an =0Aad ditional credit of 5% will be applied to the first four systems purchased. If =0Ayou purchase eight systems, an additional credit of 2.5% will be app lied to the =0Afirst seven systems purchased. These additional credits ma y either be applied =0Ato the purchase price of future systems ordered or r efunded to Au Country.=0A =0AI hope this helps you sell a bunch of your Cow lings together with a bunch of our =0ATuned Exhaust Systems, Gary. Please let me know if you have any questions or if =0Awe can be of any further ass istance.=0A =0A =0AAll the Best!=0A =0AJim Shafer=0AManager, Dealer Sales =0APower Flow Systems, Inc.=0A1585 Aviation Center Parkway, Suite 605=0ADay tona Beach, FL 32114=0Awww.powerflowsystems.com=0Ajim@powerflowsystems.c om=0APh: (877) 693-7356=0AFax: (877) 570-9831=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:45 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Ignition switch A few weeks ago, I had 4 planes here. That, plus all of the other keys I've collected over the years. None of them would turn the lock. I'll call a locksmith and see what he can do. I just can't imagine how he could open it. Good think I don't break into house for a living. ________________________________ From: FLYaDIVE Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 3:33:04 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Ignition switch Gary: Try going to an FBO that does training. My FBO has a key ring the size of a softball filled with keys. Try a local A&P (other than yourself), I have a ring of keys to fit about half the planes at my field. Count about 12. Barry On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: I lost the key to the Project X plane. > > >As a rule, I keep all the keys either in the ignition or on a hook near my work >bench. I've torn the hangar apart several times in the last 3 months. I have >been through all of the little nooks and crannies that I normal hide things. I >have been through the binders and folders that came with the plane at least a >dozen times. Nothing. No key. > > >So, I took the ignition switch out to see if I could get the tumbler out and get >a key made. I can't see how it comes apart. PLUS, it's very difficult to move >the switch around; it's tied very tightly to the wire bundle. > > >My questions are: Does someone know how to get the switch apart? Is there >another way to get a new key made? Is my only option buying a new switch? > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -- Barry "Chop'd Liver" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.