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1. 04:36 AM - Re: lost key (Tom Quinn)
2. 07:01 AM - Re: Pro-seal (James Courtney)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: Pro-seal (Tom Quinn)
4. 08:04 AM - Cowling and Power Flow (b v)
5. 09:35 AM - Re: Pro-seal (Gary Vogt)
6. 10:25 AM - Re: Cowling and Power Flow (Gary Vogt)
7. 11:36 AM - Re: Pro-seal (James Courtney)
8. 12:10 PM - Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) (discover)
9. 01:20 PM - Re: lost key (Ronald Millman CPA)
10. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) (flyv35b)
11. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) (923te)
12. 06:02 PM - Re: Pro-seal (Gary Vogt)
13. 06:07 PM - Re: lost key (Gary Vogt)
14. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) (Gary Vogt)
15. 06:38 PM - Project X plane (Gary Vogt)
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My canopy lock is very temperamental. Sometimes it locks, sometimes it
doesn=99t. Has anyone had this problem?
Tom Quinn
President
TQI Solutions
A SDVOSB Corporation
Tel (757) 204-4618
Cell (757) 573-6818
Fax (757) 204-4628
quinn_tom@tqiinc.com
www.tqiinc.com
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Vogt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: lost key
BUT, did the 91-92 AGs use the same key? That's the question.
_____
From: Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.net>
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 4:43:44 PM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: lost key
Mine doesn=99t. Good luck.
Scott Boyce
N28339
Boise, Id
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[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Vogt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:27 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: lost key
I removed the baggage door lock assembly. I'm going to get a key made
for it and hope like hell it fits the ignition.
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You have the paperwork for that mod?
Jamey
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[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Pro-seal
I had a new gutter installed on the back of my house. I watched the guy
seal it with non-hardening RTV. It looked like it would work the way he did
it. It leaked, of course. So, I got a ladder, climbed up there, stripped
off as much RTV as I could, cleaned it up, riveted the joint together, and
resealed with fuel tank sealant. Now we wait for rain.
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I'm sure he submitted an STC (Sealed The Crack)
Tom Quinn
N249RR
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[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Courtney
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Pro-seal
You have the paperwork for that mod?
Jamey
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[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Pro-seal
I had a new gutter installed on the back of my house. I watched the guy
seal it with non-hardening RTV. It looked like it would work the way he did
it. It leaked, of course. So, I got a ladder, climbed up there, stripped
off as much RTV as I could, cleaned it up, riveted the joint together, and
resealed with fuel tank sealant. Now we wait for rain.
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| Subject: | Cowling and Power Flow |
Hi Gary,
I am guessing this price is with Short Stack PF with polished exhaust pipe, right?
What is the deposit amount for this offer?
Apparently PF also offers ceramic exhaust pipe. What is your recommendatoin as
far as ceramic pipe?
What would be the price with ceramic?
Thank you,
-Boris
N28739 @ KSMQ(NJ)
> Time: 08:48:48 PM PST US
> From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling and Power Flow
>
> Here is the deal. Power Flow is offering me a
> discount on sales with my cowling
>
> through the end of the year.
>
> Cowling (less shipping) and Power Flow (less shipping; I
> can have them drop
> shipped to you at an additional cost to be determined at
> the time.): $9600
>
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supposed to rain today or tomorrow. we'll see=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________
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=0AYou have the paperwork for that mod?=0A =0AJamey=0A =0A =0AFrom:owner-te
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I had a new gutter installed on the back of my house. I watched the guy se
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling and Power Flow |
None of this is as simple as I wish it were.
Power Flow is offering me a discount for the PFS with a ceramic muffler. . . .
"IF" . . . . . I sell more than 5 cowlings WITH the PFS. That allows me to
bundle both for $9600. If I sell less than 5 cowlings with the Power Flow the
deal jumps to $9750. I would like to sell all 10 cowlings with Power Flows;
best of both worlds. I have until the end of the year to know what kind of deal
I'll be getting. I'll pass along any savings to you, and you, and you . . . .
I can get the polished pipe for about . . . . this too, depends on how many
are ordered. Anywhere from $150 to $160 less.
________________________________
From: b v <bvnj@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 8:02:05 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling and Power Flow
Hi Gary,
I am guessing this price is with Short Stack PF with polished exhaust pipe,
right?
What is the deposit amount for this offer?
Apparently PF also offers ceramic exhaust pipe. What is your recommendatoin as
far as ceramic pipe?
What would be the price with ceramic?
Thank you,
-Boris
N28739 @ KSMQ(NJ)
> Time: 08:48:48 PM PST US
> From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling and Power Flow
>
> Here is the deal. Power Flow is offering me a
> discount on sales with my cowling
>
> through the end of the year.
>
> Cowling (less shipping) and Power Flow (less shipping; I
> can have them drop
> shipped to you at an additional cost to be determined at
> the time.): $9600
>
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It=99s raining here so you=99ll likely see it soonL
Jamey
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Vogt
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Pro-seal
supposed to rain today or tomorrow. we'll see
_____
From: Tom Quinn <quinn_tom@tqiinc.com>
Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 7:08:36 AM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Pro-seal
I=99m sure he submitted an STC (Sealed The Crack)
Tom Quinn
N249RR
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Courtney
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Pro-seal
You have the paperwork for that mod?
Jamey
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Vogt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Pro-seal
I had a new gutter installed on the back of my house. I watched the guy
seal it with non-hardening RTV. It looked like it would work the way he
did it. It leaked, of course. So, I got a ladder, climbed up there,
stripped off as much RTV as I could, cleaned it up, riveted the joint
together, and resealed with fuel tank sealant. Now we wait for rain.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
23:34:00
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) |
Hey Cliff,
Are you aware of Firewall Forwards STC's for 10:1 pistons for Mooneys and Cessna
Cardinals? Yes, they had to demonstrate he detonation margins to get the STC
approved. And it is the angle valve engine..
Ned
I don't know if the FAA will issue a multiple STC for an engine with 10:1 CR without
a lot of "detonation margin" testing. You obviously have a fair amount
of experience with 10:1 CR with apparently no problems with 100LL fuel at least
and that will not only increase HP and BSFC and be especially beneficial
at high altitude where the engine would not be derated by limiting MP. A 9.0:1
CR might be much easier to get approved. The only real practical solution
to the replacement of 100LL will be with a fuel that all the engines certified
on 100LL fuel will be able to operate on without any changes, such as G100UL.
Cliff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316695#316695
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=EF=BBYes We had that problem with our '77 Tiger.
The nut and bolt that holds the vertical pin was a little loose.
Ron Millman, Glendale, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Quinn<mailto:quinn_tom@tqiinc.com>
To:
teamgrumman-list@matronics.com<mailto:teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 4:33 AM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: lost key
My canopy lock is very temperamental. Sometimes it locks, sometimes it
doesn=99t. Has anyone had this problem?
Tom Quinn
President
TQI Solutions
A SDVOSB Corporation
Tel (757) 204-4618
Cell (757) 573-6818
Fax (757) 204-4628
quinn_tom@tqiinc.com<mailto:quinn_tom@tqiinc.com>
www.tqiinc.com<http://www.tqiinc.com/>
From:
owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list
-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Vogt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:41 PM
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: lost key
BUT, did the 91-92 AGs use the same key? That's the question.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.net>
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 4:43:44 PM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: lost key
Mine doesn=99t. Good luck.
Scott Boyce
N28339
Boise, Id
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Vogt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:27 PM
To: Teamgrumman List
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: lost key
I removed the baggage door lock assembly. I'm going to get a key made
for it and hope like hell it fits the ignition.
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) |
Ned,
I didn't know that. Any restrictions on that STC? I think I recall reading
that the angle valve engine might be slightly less prone to detonation
because of the combustion chamber shaft. But it's probably not more than
0.2 CR difference.
Heck, I'm going to be running about 9.7 CR on my 356 Porsche on 92 octane
auto gas.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: "discover" <923te@att.net>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp)
>
> Hey Cliff,
>
> Are you aware of Firewall Forwards STC's for 10:1 pistons for Mooneys and
> Cessna Cardinals? Yes, they had to demonstrate he detonation margins to
> get the STC approved. And it is the angle valve engine..
>
> Ned
>
> I don't know if the FAA will issue a multiple STC for an engine with 10:1
> CR without a lot of "detonation margin" testing. You obviously have a
> fair amount of experience with 10:1 CR with apparently no problems with
> 100LL fuel at least and that will not only increase HP and BSFC and be
> especially beneficial at high altitude where the engine would not be
> derated by limiting MP. A 9.0:1 CR might be much easier to get
> approved. The only real practical solution to the replacement of 100LL
> will be with a fuel that all the engines certified on 100LL fuel will be
> able to operate on without any changes, such as G100UL.
> Cliff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316695#316695
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) |
Cliff,
I think there is a manifold pressure limitation based on OAT
and Barometric pressure, ie if it's really cold (dense air) and at sea
level then you have to limit MP...this is what the salesman told me on
the telephone some time ago...
More info From:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=70358
Two FAA certified examples of 10:1 pistons
1) The helicopter engine HIO-360-D1A which is rated at 190HP at 3200RPM
on 100/100LL with compression ratio of 10.00:1
2) Firewall Forward has STC'd 10:1 pistons in the Mooney and Cardinal
without RPM restrictions according to their representative spoke with.
http://firewallforward.com/horsepowerplusstc.pdf
Admittedly, these are not paraleel valve but are angle valve engines but
they do show that the FAA has approved 10:1 pistons at or above 2700rpm
Then you would have to do similar proof tests just as Firewall Forward
did:
"The airframe and power plant certification testing involved engine dyno
runs to verify and document both H.P. and torque increases; engine
detonation testing performed at sea level conditions by authorized FAA
testing facilities; engine oil cooling tests performed by the FAA at
gross weight, max rate of climb and an ambient temperature of 100F,
engine propeller vibration and increase torque compatibility testing
performed by McCauley Engineers in Dayton, Ohio; effects of torque
increases on both spin entry and recovery in all flight regimes, and
engine out and airstart procedures evaluated for P.O.H. compliance."
----- Original Message -----
From: flyv35b
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp)
<flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
Ned,
I didn't know that. Any restrictions on that STC? I think I recall
reading
that the angle valve engine might be slightly less prone to detonation
because of the combustion chamber shaft. But it's probably not more
than
0.2 CR difference.
Heck, I'm going to be running about 9.7 CR on my 356 Porsche on 92
octane
auto gas.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: "discover" <923te@att.net>
To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp)
>
> Hey Cliff,
>
> Are you aware of Firewall Forwards STC's for 10:1 pistons for
Mooneys and
> Cessna Cardinals? Yes, they had to demonstrate he detonation margins
to
> get the STC approved. And it is the angle valve engine..
>
> Ned
>
> I don't know if the FAA will issue a multiple STC for an engine
with 10:1
> CR without a lot of "detonation margin" testing. You obviously
have a
> fair amount of experience with 10:1 CR with apparently no problems
with
> 100LL fuel at least and that will not only increase HP and BSFC and
be
> especially beneficial at high altitude where the engine would not
be
> derated by limiting MP. A 9.0:1 CR might be much easier to get
> approved. The only real practical solution to the replacement of
100LL
> will be with a fuel that all the engines certified on 100LL fuel
will be
> able to operate on without any changes, such as G100UL.
> Cliff
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316695#316695
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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We got a few drops. I think the big stuff comes tonight.=0A=0A=0A=0A______
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I had a key made from the baggage door lock. After I put the baggage door
back =0Atogether, I tried the canopy; it worked. Then I tried the ignition
. Wouldn't =0Aya know. It worked too. There isn't a lot of good things I
can say about the =0AAG5B. However, using the same key for all three lock
s was an awesome idea.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
Ronald Millman CPA <ronmillmancpa@msn.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics
.com=0ASent: Fri, October 22, 2010 1:07:53 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-Li
st: lost key=0A=0A=EF=BB =0AYes We had that problem with our '77 Tiger
.=0AThe nut and bolt that holds the vertical pin was a little loose.=0ARon
Millman, Glendale, CA=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: Tom Quinn
=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010
4:33 AM=0A>Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: lost key=0A>=0A>=0A>My cano
py lock is very temperamental. Sometimes it locks, sometimes it =0A>does
n=99t. Has anyone had this problem?=0A> =0A>Tom Quinn=0A>President
=0A>TQI Solutions=0A>A SDVOSB Corporation=0A>Tel (757) 204-4618=0A>Ce
ll (757) 573-6818=0A>Fax (757) 204-4628=0A>quinn_tom@tqiinc.com=0A>ww
w.tqiinc.com=0A> =0A>From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com =0A>[
mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vo
gt=0A>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:41 PM=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@mat
ronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: lost key=0A> =0A>BUT, did
the 91-92 AGs use the same key? That's the question.=0A> =0A>=0A_____
___________________________=0A =0A>From:Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.
net>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 4
:43:44 PM=0A>Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: lost key=0A>Mine doesn
=99t. Good luck.=0A> =0A>Scott Boyce =0A>N28339=0A>Boise, Id=0A>
=0A>From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com =0A>[mailto:owner-t
eamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0A>Sent: Th
ursday, October 21, 2010 2:27 PM=0A>To: Teamgrumman List=0A>Subject: TeamGr
umman-List: lost key=0A> =0A>I removed the baggage door lock assembly
. I'm going to get a key made for it =0A>and hope like hell it fits the
ignition.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tea
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp) |
The angle valve engine is actually more prone to detonation due to the large
valve pockets cut into the piston crown. Parallel valve engines with 14.7:1
have been run at Reno on 100LL.
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From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 1:40:16 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp)
Ned,
I didn't know that. Any restrictions on that STC? I think I recall reading
that the angle valve engine might be slightly less prone to detonation because
of the combustion chamber shaft. But it's probably not more than 0.2 CR
difference.
Heck, I'm going to be running about 9.7 CR on my 356 Porsche on 92 octane auto
gas.
Cliff
----- Original Message ----- From: "discover" <923te@att.net>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: IO-360 B1E (180 hp)
>
> Hey Cliff,
>
> Are you aware of Firewall Forwards STC's for 10:1 pistons for Mooneys and
>Cessna Cardinals? Yes, they had to demonstrate he detonation margins to get the
>STC approved. And it is the angle valve engine..
>
> Ned
>
> I don't know if the FAA will issue a multiple STC for an engine with 10:1 CR
>without a lot of "detonation margin" testing. You obviously have a fair amount
>of experience with 10:1 CR with apparently no problems with 100LL fuel at least
>and that will not only increase HP and BSFC and be especially beneficial at
>high altitude where the engine would not be derated by limiting MP. A 9.0:1
>CR might be much easier to get approved. The only real practical solution to
>the replacement of 100LL will be with a fuel that all the engines certified on
>100LL fuel will be able to operate on without any changes, such as G100UL.
> Cliff
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316695#316695
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Here are some pics of the plane's interior. It's all back together now.
Without a side-by-side comparison it's hard to comprehend the difference. I
used a handheld florescent drop cord for the lighting. The colors are off a
bit.
I capped off the rear seat heat and installed the plastic console panels.
Gained 2 inched of foot room on each side; saved about 8 lbs in weight. Plus,
they are easy to remove for maintenance.
I wish the trim wheel and flap switch were in their correct places. I'd put in
a cup holder.
The modified cowling (with a new inlet design and K&N air filter from a Tiger)
is nearing it's final fabrication steps. Initially Dave thought it would take
a
week. Two weeks later he's still making parts/molds/tooling. He promises me it
will be soon. I can't wait to fly it.
Gary
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