---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/29/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:03 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/28/10 (Lawrence Massaro) 2. 12:08 PM - Re: Awfully quiet on the Team Grumman List (Gary Vogt) 3. 12:12 PM - Re: Glove Box Advice (Gary Vogt) 4. 12:27 PM - Boeing's Phantom Eye (Gary Vogt) 5. 01:26 PM - Re: Glove Box Advice (Don Curry) 6. 02:53 PM - Re: Glove Box Advice (Gary) 7. 07:28 PM - Re: Glove Box Advice (Scott Trejo) 8. 09:42 PM - O-360 WANTED (asu4me) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:26 AM PST US From: Lawrence Massaro Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/28/10 thx On 10/28/2010 11:59 PM, TeamGrumman-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete TeamGrumman-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. 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The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the TeamGrumman-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-10-28&Archive=TeamGrumman > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-10-28&Archive=TeamGrumman > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 10/28/10: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:03 PM - Awfully quiet on the Team Grumman List (Bruce Smith) > 2. 03:09 PM - Glove Box Advice (Don Curry) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:03:17 PM PST US > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Awfully quiet on the Team Grumman List > From: Bruce Smith > > It's quiet out there, Gary, what's new in Auburn? > > Bruce > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:09:09 PM PST US > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice > From: Don Curry > > I'm looking for some fab advice. . .er, fabrication fab, not fabulous fab=21 > I have decided to rearrange the avionics in my Tiger and install a glove box > in the radio rack in place of one or two old receivers. I thought about > using a salvaged AA5 glovebox, but I understand it utilizes a surface mount > and couldn't be installed with screws into the radio rack (the way a radio > tray is). Also, I believe the AA5 glovebox door would have too much overlap > and interfere with the adjacent radio stack about 3/8=22-1/2=22 to the > left. I > know Vans sells a map box kit, and it is a contender, but it looks like the > door is a flat piece of sheet aluminum and, from what I have read online, > builders have had a hard time getting it to open properly. Anyway, I'd > prefer something with a little more substance than the Vans map box. The > width of the box needs to be 6.25=22 to fit the radio opening. I'm not sure > yet about the height, but I expect to have 4-6=22 available after removing > the > old radio/s. I know it's a longshot, but does anybody know of an > =22aftermarket=22 glovebox with a decent door that will screw into a > standard > radio rack? Fiberglass, plastic, aluminum, automotive, marine, or aviation > would be fine. > > Thanks in advance, > > Don > > ____________________________________________________________ > Publish your photos in seconds for FREE > TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 > > -- Lawrence Massaro Tactical Engineering& Analysis, Inc. 6050 Santo Road Suite 250 San Diego, CA 92124 858 573 9869 x106 (o) 858 573 9874 (f) 858 354 9964 (c) Primary email: lmassaro@tac-eng.com Secondary email: lawrence.massaro@us.army.mil ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:05 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Awfully quiet on the Team Grumman List Maybe I should talk about taking off with partial flaps. I always use an inch or two of flaps during take-off. I always start on both mags. I never prime when the OAT is above 30 degrees I start the engine with the throttle closed. The Project X cowling is nearing completion; first step anyway. Wednesday went like this: Finished an annual in the morning, Clytie and I left for Lancaster at 1pm and drove for 6 plus hours (drove instead of flew because a cowling won't fit into a Tiger), picked up Bobby's Tiger, flew home at night with a 30 knot tail wind, got to Auburn at 10pm . . . it was raining, realized we hadn't taken the Kia to the airport to drive home, rain stopped . . sort of, we walked the 3 miles home, got home and no key, had to break into the house, ate some snacks for dinner, hit the sack at midnight. Yesterday, it seemed like I could only get a few odds and ends done. ________________________________ From: Bruce Smith Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 2:00:23 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Awfully quiet on the Team Grumman List It's quiet out there, Gary, what's new in Auburn? Bruce ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:11 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice Hi Don,=0A=0AI've thought about doing that, making the avionics stack a dou ble wide and not =0Aas tall, and then putting a pseudo glove box for maps u nder one of the radio =0Astacks. If the AA5x glove box is the right width, I'd mount it to the avionics =0Arails. You can easily drill through the g love box. Make your own door.=0A=0ATake pics. Let us see how it turns out .=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Don Curry < don.curry@inbox.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, Octo ber 28, 2010 3:06:40 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice=0A=0A =0AI=99m looking for some fab advice. . .er, fabrication fab, not fa bulous fab! I =0Ahave decided to rearrange the avionics in my Tiger and in stall a glove box in =0Athe radio rack in place of one or two old receivers . I thought about using a =0Asalvaged AA5 glovebox, but I understand it ut ilizes a surface mount and couldn=99t =0Abe installed with screws int o the radio rack (the way a radio tray is). Also, I =0Abelieve the AA5 glo vebox door would have too much overlap and interfere with the =0Aadjacent r adio stack about 3/8=9D-1/2=9D to the left. I know Vans sells a map box =0Akit, and it is a contender, but it looks like the door is a fl at piece of sheet =0Aaluminum and, from what I have read online, builders h ave had a hard time =0Agetting it to open properly. Anyway, I=99d pr efer something with a little more =0Asubstance than the Vans map box. The width of the box needs to be 6.25=9D to fit =0Athe radio opening. I =99m not sure yet about the height, but I expect to have 4-6=9D =0Aavailable after removing the old radio/s. I know it=99s a longsh ot, but does =0Aanybody know of an =9Caftermarket=9D glovebox w ith a decent door that will screw =0Ainto a standard radio rack? Fiberglas s, plastic, aluminum, automotive, marine, =0Aor aviation would be fine.=0AT hanks in advance,=0ADon=0A =0A =0A________________________________=0A =0A P ublish your photos in seconds for FREE=0ATry IM ToolPack at www.imtoolpack. ==================== =0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:13 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Boeing's Phantom Eye http://www.boeing.com/Features/2010/07/bds_feat_phantom_eye_07_12_10.html ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:57 PM PST US From: "Don Curry" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice Gary, I'd like to tinker with a salvaged box/lid assembly, but I don't have one. There is a good chance that the door could be adjusted to one side so it wouldn't interfere with the adjacent radio stack. But I don't know about any of the other dimensions. As it is, I'm starting from scratch. If I come up with a good solution, I'll post it. Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server=40matronics.com =5Bmailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server=40matronics.com=5D On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:10 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice Hi Don, I've thought about doing that, making the avionics stack a double wide and not as tall, and then putting a pseudo glove box for maps under one of the radio stacks. If the AA5x glove box is the right width, I'd mount it to the avionics rails. You can easily drill through the glove box. Make your own door. Take pics. Let us see how it turns out. Gary _____ From: Don Curry Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:06:40 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice I'm looking for some fab advice. . .er, fabrication fab, not fabulous fab=21 I have decided to rearrange the avionics in my Tiger and install a glove box in the radio rack in place of one or two old receivers. I thought about using a salvaged AA5 glovebox, but I understand it utilizes a surface mount and couldn't be installed with screws into the radio rack (the way a radio tray is). Also, I believe the AA5 glovebox door would have too much overlap and interfere with the adjacent radio stack about 3/8=22-1/2=22 to the left. I know Vans sells a map box kit, and it is a contender, but it looks like the door is a flat piece of sheet aluminum and, from what I have read online, builders have had a hard time getting it to open properly. Anyway, I'd prefer something with a little more substance than the Vans map box. The width of the box needs to be 6.25=22 to fit the radio opening. I'm not sure yet about the height, but I expect to have 4-6=22 available after removing the old radio/s. I know it's a longshot, but does anybody know of an =22aftermarket=22 glovebox with a decent door that will screw into a standard radio rack? Fiberglass, plastic, aluminum, automotive, marine, or aviation would be fine. Thanks in advance, Don _____ Try IM ToolPack Publish your photos in seconds for FREE Try IM ToolPack at www.imtoolpack.com f==22http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List=22>http://www.ma tron==22_ blank=22 href==22http://forums.matronics.com=22>http://forums.matronics.co http:/======================= = TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - Features Navigator to browse such as List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, more: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List ____________________________________________________________ TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if5 Capture screenshots, upload images, edit and send them to your friends through IMs, post on Twitter?, Facebook?, MySpace?, LinkedIn? ? FAST=21 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:20 PM PST US From: Gary Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice Call Garner. I'm sure he has a few hundred Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:24 PM, "Don Curry" wrote: > Gary, > > I=99d like to tinker with a salvaged box/lid assembly, but I don =99t have one. There is a good chance that the door could be adjusted to on e side so it wouldn=99t interfere with the adjacent radio stack. But I don=99t know about any of the other dimensions. As it is, I=99 m starting from scratch. If I come up with a good solution, I=99ll po st it. > > Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:10 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice > > > > Hi Don, > > > > I've thought about doing that, making the avionics stack a double wide and not as tall, and then putting a pseudo glove box for maps under one of the r adio stacks. If the AA5x glove box is the right width, I'd mount it to the a vionics rails. You can easily drill through the glove box. Make your own d oor. > > > > Take pics. Let us see how it turns out. > > > > Gary > > > > From: Don Curry > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:06:40 PM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice > > I=99m looking for some fab advice. . .er, fabrication fab, not fabul ous fab! I have decided to rearrange the avionics in my Tiger and install a glove box in the radio rack in place of one or two old receivers. I though t about using a salvaged AA5 glovebox, but I understand it utilizes a surfac e mount and couldn=99t be installed with screws into the radio rack (t he way a radio tray is). Also, I believe the AA5 glovebox door would have t oo much overlap and interfere with the adjacent radio stack about 3/8=9D -1/2=9D to the left. I know Vans sells a map box kit, and it is a con tender, but it looks like the door is a flat piece of sheet aluminum and, fr om what I have read online, builders have had a hard time getting it to open properly. Anyway, I=99d prefer something with a little more substanc e than the Vans map box. The width of the box needs to be 6.25=9D to f it the radio opening. I=99m not sure yet about the height, but I expe ct to have 4-6=9D available after removing the old radio/s. I know it =99s a longshot, but does anybody know of an =9Caftermarket =9D glovebox with a decent door that will screw into a standard radio rack? Fiberglass, plastic, aluminum, automotive, marine, or aviation would be fin e. > > Thanks in advance, > > Don > > > > > > Publish your photos in seconds for FREE > Try IM ToolPack at www.imtoolpack.com > > f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matro n="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co http:/======================= > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > Try FREE IM ToolPack at www.imtoolpack.com > Capture screenshots, upload images, edit and send them to your friends > through IMs, post on Twitter=C2=AE, Facebook=C2=AE, MySpace=84=A2, Link edIn=C2=AE ? FAST! > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:04 PM PST US From: Scott Trejo Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice Don, I have one for sale very cheap!!!! Scott Trejo md11strejo@yahoo.com On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Don Curry wrote: > Gary, > I=92d like to tinker with a salvaged box/lid assembly, but I don=92t have one. There is a good chance that the door could be adjusted to one side so it wouldn=92t interfere with the adjacent radio stack. But I don=92t know about any of the other dimensions. As it is, I=92m starting from scratch. If I come up with a good solution, I=92ll post it. > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:10 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice > > Hi Don, > > I've thought about doing that, making the avionics stack a double wide and not as tall, and then putting a pseudo glove box for maps under one of the radio stacks. If the AA5x glove box is the right width, I'd mount it to the avionics rails. You can easily drill through the glove box. Make your own door. > > Take pics. Let us see how it turns out. > > Gary > > From: Don Curry > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:06:40 PM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Glove Box Advice > > I=92m looking for some fab advice. . .er, fabrication fab, not fabulous fab! I have decided to rearrange the avionics in my Tiger and install a glove box in the radio rack in place of one or two old receivers. I thought about using a salvaged AA5 glovebox, but I understand it utilizes a surface mount and couldn=92t be installed with screws into the radio rack (the way a radio tray is). Also, I believe the AA5 glovebox door would have too much overlap and interfere with the adjacent radio stack about 3/8=94-1/2=94 to the left. I know Vans sells a map box kit, and it is a contender, but it looks like the door is a flat piece of sheet aluminum and, from what I have read online, builders have had a hard time getting it to open properly. Anyway, I=92d prefer something with a little more substance than the Vans map box. The width of the box needs to be 6.25=94 to fit the radio opening. I=92m not sure yet about the height, but I expect to have 4-6=94 available after removing the old radio/s. I know it=92s a longshot, but does anybody know of an =93aftermarket=94 glovebox with a decent door that will screw into a standard radio rack? Fiberglass, plastic, aluminum, automotive, marine, or aviation would be fine. > Thanks in advance, > Don > > > Publish your photos in seconds for FREE > Try IM ToolPack at www.imtoolpack.com > f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matro n="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co http:/======================= > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > Try FREE IM ToolPack at www.imtoolpack.com > Capture screenshots, upload images, edit and send them to your friends > through IMs, post on Twitter=AE, Facebook=AE, MySpace=99, LinkedIn=AE ? 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