TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive

Thu 11/18/10


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 05:54 AM - GG rant (airman@appledumplings.com)
     2. 06:44 AM - Re:  (Bob Hodo)
     3. 08:52 AM - Re: New inlet on AG5B (flyv35b)
     4. 11:23 AM - Re: New inlet on AG5B (Gary Vogt)
     5. 11:23 AM - Landing Gear Fairing (Scott Boyce)
     6. 11:38 AM - Grumman gas caps. (Gary Vogt)
     7. 11:43 AM - Re: Landing Gear Fairing (Gary Vogt)
     8. 11:50 AM - Re: Landing Gear Fairing (923te)
     9. 11:54 AM - Re: New inlet on AG5B (923te)
    10. 11:59 AM - Re: Landing Gear Fairing (923te)
    11. 01:25 PM - Re: Grumman gas caps. (Don Curry)
    12. 01:39 PM - Re: New inlet on AG5B (FLYaDIVE)
    13. 03:12 PM - Re: New inlet on AG5B (Linn Walters)
    14. 03:56 PM - Re: Grumman gas caps. (Dick Butz)
    15. 04:26 PM - Re: Grumman gas caps. (Gary Vogt)
    16. 04:51 PM - Re: Grumman gas caps. (Dick Butz)
    17. 05:36 PM - Re: Grumman gas caps. (Gary Vogt)
    18. 10:27 PM - Re: GG rant (James Courtney)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:54:06 AM PST US
    Subject: GG rant
    From: airman@appledumplings.com
    On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:00 AM, TeamGrumman-List Digest Server wrote: > GG was, and still is, Ron's holier than thou approach to literally every topic > > that is mentioned. No one ever gets in the last word. Where does he find the > > time to insert himself into every topic? There is one of the truest statements to every be uttered by humans. Thomas


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    Time: 06:44:21 AM PST US
    From: Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re:
    Wow.- I was surprised to see my name on that list, Gary. For the record folks, I am the very young grasshopper in this kung-fu story .- Before I ever hit the 'send' button, I must be careful that I am not r evealing something that Master Gary or Master Bob S has shared with me in c onfidence.- It takes all kinds to make a world.- The grumman world would be far less colorful and we would all be groping in the dark at a much slower pace if i t were not for these characters.- I am delighted to call them both friend s. Bob Hodo... hitting the send button knowing that I alone am responsible for whatever I said, and that none of it will be rejected and I won't be banne d.- (Rebuked maybe!) =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:52:31 AM PST US
    From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
    Subject: Re: New inlet on AG5B
    Gary, do you have a photo of the duct installed on the plane? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Vogt To: Teamgrumman List Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:00 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: New inlet on AG5B Hey Larry, heads up. This is for you . I got the inlet installed today. Pretty easy actually. The air filter portion sits a bit lower than the airbox on the carb. Not a big deal. I'll be using the same black duct that goes on a real Tiger. I ran into a clearance problem with the #2 exhaust riser. I thought about making the new air box only for planes with a Power Flow but didn't bare listening to all the whining. More to come.


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    Time: 11:23:13 AM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: New inlet on AG5B
    I do. But, I had to cut a notch in it to get it to fit around #2 riser and I'd rather not send out the notched picture. I'll work on the airbox today after I paint the underside of my new roof on the upstairs balcony. ________________________________ From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 8:49:06 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: New inlet on AG5B Gary, do you have a photo of the duct installed on the plane? ----- Original Message ----- >From: Gary Vogt >To: Teamgrumman List >Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:00 PM >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: New inlet on AG5B > > >Hey Larry, heads up. This is for you . > > >I got the inlet installed today. Pretty easy actually. The air filter >portion sits a bit lower than the airbox on the carb. Not a big deal. I'll >be using the same black duct that goes on a real Tiger. > > >I ran into a clearance problem with the #2 exhaust riser. I thought about >making the new air box only for planes with a Power Flow but didn't bare >listening to all the whining. More to come. >


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    Time: 11:23:15 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Boyce" <tscott165@cableone.net>
    Subject: Landing Gear Fairing
    Some time ago there was a discussion regarding ways to cover the rubber fairing that covers the landing gear struts. Could somebody kindly point me to the discussion.


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    Time: 11:38:34 AM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Grumman gas caps.
    Got a question on gas caps. During an annual on a 79 Tiger, I noticed the fuel cap "O" ring was deteriorated and decided to replace the "O" rings. When I opened up the inside for the little "O" ring, I found some Tinnerman clips acting as springs for the locking mechanism. Had I not just done the same "O" ring replacement on a 79 Cheetah's fuel caps, I wouldn't have questioned it. I tried to find info on it in the maintenance manual but it isn't there. No IPB. I found this link during a Google search. It's helpful, but I still need a parts breakdown. http://www.csobeech.com/fuel-caps.html Is the make/model a Shaw 531? Gary


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    Time: 11:43:03 AM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear Fairing
    About 15 years ago I tried a whole bunch of ways to cover the foam gear leg fairings. What I found was that any material used for covering cracked and deteriorated faster than the foam itself. Plus, it was not easy to get the material on straight. Keep it simple. ________________________________ From: Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.net> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 11:00:31 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Landing Gear Fairing Some time ago there was a discussion regarding ways to cover the rubber fairing that covers the landing gear struts. Could somebody kindly point me to the discussion.


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    Time: 11:50:48 AM PST US
    From: 923te <923te@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear Fairing
    Maybe the following link us what you are thinking of? All the emails are archived on the matronics teamgrumman forum http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=74955 Ned Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:00 PM, "Scott Boyce" <tscott165@cableone.net> wrote: > Some time ago there was a discussion regarding ways to cover the rubber fa iring that covers the landing gear struts. Could somebody kindly point me to the discussion. > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


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    Time: 11:54:04 AM PST US
    From: 923te <923te@att.net>
    Subject: Re: New inlet on AG5B
    Hey Gary I'd be interested to see what had to be done to the front baffle. As we disc ussed when I looked into doing this I think my #2 PF exhaust (the AG5B proto type) makes it even tighter than the newer ones....just added to the reasons I went for the Jag.... Ned Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote: > I do. But, I had to cut a notch in it to get it to fit around #2 riser an d I'd rather not send out the notched picture. > > I'll work on the airbox today after I paint the underside of my new roof o n the upstairs balcony. > > From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 8:49:06 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: New inlet on AG5B > > Gary, do you have a photo of the duct installed on the plane? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Vogt > To: Teamgrumman List > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:00 PM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: New inlet on AG5B > > Hey Larry, heads up. This is for you . > > I got the inlet installed today. Pretty easy actually. The air filter po rtion sits a bit lower than the airbox on the carb. Not a big deal. I'll b e using the same black duct that goes on a real Tiger. > > I ran into a clearance problem with the #2 exhaust riser. I thought about making the new air box only for planes with a Power Flow but didn't bare li stening to all the whining. More to come. > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


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    Time: 11:59:19 AM PST US
    From: 923te <923te@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear Fairing
    My Cheetah had aluminum fairings installed that are somewhat common. Gene Pl azak used to sell them or plans describing how to build them When I removed them I like some others hound that the fairing had chafed alm ost thru the aluminum brake line. If you do a fairing like this be sure and p revent it from slipping down and ruining your brakes Ned Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote: > About 15 years ago I tried a whole bunch of ways to cover the foam gear le g fairings. What I found was that any material used for covering cracked an d deteriorated faster than the foam itself. Plus, it was not easy to get th e material on straight. Keep it simple. > > From: Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.net> > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 11:00:31 AM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Landing Gear Fairing > > Some time ago there was a discussion regarding ways to cover the rubber fa iring that covers the landing gear struts. Could somebody kindly point me to the discussion. > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


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    Time: 01:25:44 PM PST US
    From: "Don Curry" <don.curry@inbox.com>
    Subject: Grumman gas caps.
    About a year ago, my IA and I found a cap with two of the three springs inside broken. I finally tracked down the company that makes the Shaw Aero caps (I don't remember the exact story, but I think Shaw Aero had been sold to a new =22parent=22 company). Anyway, I spoke with the guy who presented himself as the tech rep for the fuel cap product. To say he was less than helpful would be an understatement. His position was that, since there was no approved field repair for the caps, he would provide neither drawings nor parts lists to me nor my IA. He said the only fix/repair/service for a worn or broken cap was to send it to his facility for overhaul to the tune of something like =24325. This is my recollection of something that happened over a year ago, so the specific details might be a little off, but they are close. What I am absolutely sure of is that I couldn't get any tech support from the company now making the Shaw Aero caps. If somebody can schmooze a parts list or tech drawing, I'd sure like a copy. Oh, a source for parts would be awesome too. As if=21 Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server=40matronics.com =5Bmailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server=40matronics.com=5D On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps. Got a question on gas caps. During an annual on a 79 Tiger, I noticed the fuel cap =22O=22 ring was deteriorated and decided to replace the =22O=22 rings. When I opened up the inside for the little =22O=22 ring, I found some Tinnerman clips acting as springs for the locking mechanism. Had I not just done the same =22O=22 ring replacement on a 79 Cheetah's fuel caps, I wouldn't have questioned it. I tried to find info on it in the maintenance manual but it isn't there. No IPB. I found this link during a Google search. It's helpful, but I still need a parts breakdown. http://www.csobeech.com/fuel-caps.html Is the make/model a Shaw 531? Gary ____________________________________________________________ Send your photos by email in seconds... TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3 Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks.


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    Time: 01:39:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New inlet on AG5B
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    Gary: OBVIOUSLY you do not have any experience in advertising. Take that picture AGAIN! And this time have the young lady dress in a bikini and keep the hat for intrigue along with the smile. Barry On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hey Larry, heads up. This is for you . > > I got the inlet installed today. Pretty easy actually. The air filter > portion sits a bit lower than the airbox on the carb. Not a big deal. I'll > be using the same black duct that goes on a real Tiger. > > I ran into a clearance problem with the #2 exhaust riser. I thought about > making the new air box only for planes with a Power Flow but didn't bare > listening to all the whining. More to come. > >


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    Time: 03:12:57 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: New inlet on AG5B
    Whoa there Barry!!! What part??? Is there a part??? :-D Linn On 11/18/2010 4:36 PM, FLYaDIVE wrote: > > Gary: > > OBVIOUSLY you do not have any experience in advertising. > > Take that picture AGAIN! And this time have the young lady dress in a > bikini and keep the hat for intrigue along with the smile. > > Barry > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com > <mailto:teamgrumman@yahoo.com>> wrote: > > Hey Larry, heads up. This is for you . > > I got the inlet installed today. Pretty easy actually. The air > filter portion sits a bit lower than the airbox on the carb. Not > a big deal. I'll be using the same black duct that goes on a real > Tiger. > > I ran into a clearance problem with the #2 exhaust riser. I > thought about making the new air box only for planes with a Power > Flow but didn't bare listening to all the whining. More to come. > > > * > > *


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    Time: 03:56:47 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Butz" <dickbutz@therock.bm>
    Subject: Re: Grumman gas caps.
    Check out these caps: http://www.gmpracingproducts.com.au/fuel-cells/fuel-cell-bladder-fill-pla te-aircraft-style-flush-caps.php Also some at Speedway motors Dick Butz From: Don Curry Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps. About a year ago, my IA and I found a cap with two of the three springs inside broken. I finally tracked down the company that makes the Shaw Aero caps (I don=99t remember the exact story, but I think Shaw Aero had been sold to a new =9Cparent=9D company). Anyway, I spoke with the guy who presented himself as the tech rep for the fuel cap product. To say he was less than helpful would be an understatement. His position was that, since there was no approved field repair for the caps, he would provide neither drawings nor parts lists to me nor my IA. He said the only fix/repair/service for a worn or broken cap was to send it to his facility for overhaul to the tune of something like $325. This is my recollection of something that happened over a year ago, so the specific details might be a little off, but they are close. What I am absolutely sure of is that I couldn=99t get any tech support from the company now making the Shaw Aero caps. If somebody can schmooze a parts list or tech drawing, I=99d sure like a copy. Oh, a source for parts would be awesome too. As if! Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps. Got a question on gas caps. During an annual on a 79 Tiger, I noticed the fuel cap "O" ring was deteriorated and decided to replace the "O" rings. When I opened up the inside for the little "O" ring, I found some Tinnerman clips acting as springs for the locking mechanism. Had I not just done the same "O" ring replacement on a 79 Cheetah's fuel caps, I wouldn't have questioned it. I tried to find info on it in the maintenance manual but it isn't there. No IPB. I found this link during a Google search. It's helpful, but I still need a parts breakdown. http://www.csobeech.com/fuel-caps.html Is the make/model a Shaw 531? Gary <><><>www.buildersbooks.com<><><><>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tea mGrumman-List<>http://forums.matronics.comwww.aeroelectric.com


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    Time: 04:26:42 PM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Grumman gas caps.
    nice, but you couldn't make them work without making it look like it was =0Ahomemade.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Dick Butz <dickbutz@therock.bm>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, Nov ember 18, 2010 3:54:24 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps .=0A=0A =0ACheck out these caps:=0Ahttp://www.gmpracingproducts.com.au/fuel -cells/fuel-cell-bladder-fill-plate-aircraft-style-flush-caps.php=0A=0AAlso some at Speedway motors=0A =0ADick Butz =0AFrom: Don Curry =0ASent: Thursd ay, November 18, 2010 1:23 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASubje ct: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps.=0A About a year ago, my IA an d I found a cap with two of the three springs =0Ainside broken. I finally tracked down the company that makes the Shaw Aero =0Acaps (I don=99t remember the exact story, but I think Shaw Aero had been sold to =0Aa new =9Cparent=9D company). Anyway, I spoke with the guy who pres ented himself as =0Athe tech rep for the fuel cap product. To say he was less than helpful would =0Abe an understatement. His position was that, s ince there was no approved field =0Arepair for the caps, he would provide neither drawings nor parts lists to me nor =0Amy IA. He said the only fix /repair/service for a worn or broken cap was to =0Asend it to his facility for overhaul to the tune of something like $325. This =0Ais my recollect ion of something that happened over a year ago, so the specific =0Adetails might be a little off, but they are close. What I am absolutely sure =0A of is that I couldn=99t get any tech support from the company now ma king the Shaw =0AAero caps. If somebody can schmooze a parts list or tech drawing, I=99d sure =0Alike a copy. Oh, a source for parts would be awesome too. As if!=0ADon =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: ow ner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Thursday, November 1 8, 2010 2:26 PM=0ATo: Teamgrumman List=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Grum man gas caps.=0A =0AGot a question on gas caps. =0A =0ADuring an annual o n a 79 Tiger, I noticed the fuel cap "O" ring was =0Adeteriorated and deci ded to replace the "O" rings. When I opened up the inside =0Afor the litt le "O" ring, I found some Tinnerman clips acting as springs for the =0Aloc king mechanism. Had I not just done the same "O" ring replacement on a 79 =0ACheetah's fuel caps, I wouldn't have questioned it. I tried to find i nfo on it =0Ain the maintenance manual but it isn't there. No IPB. I f ound this link =0Aduring a Google search. It's helpful, but I still need a parts breakdown. =0A=0A =0Ahttp://www.csobeech.com/fuel-caps.html=0A =0A Is the make/model a Shaw 531?=0A =0AGary=0A =0A =0A =0A<>=0A<>=0A<>=0Awww. buildersbooks.com=0A<>=0A<>=0A<>=0A<>=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator? TeamGrumman-List=0A<>=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Awww.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com> =0Ahref="htt p://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com =0Ahref="http://www.matr onics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Team Grumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co ============ =0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:51:37 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Butz" <dickbutz@therock.bm>
    Subject: Re: Grumman gas caps.
    What about these? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/aerofuelcaps.php Dick From: Gary Vogt Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:23 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps. nice, but you couldn't make them work without making it look like it was homemade. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- From: Dick Butz <dickbutz@therock.bm> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 3:54:24 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps. Check out these caps: http://www.gmpracingproducts.com.au/fuel-cells/fuel-cell-bladder-fill-pla te-aircraft-style-flush-caps.php Also some at Speedway motors Dick Butz From: Don Curry Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps. About a year ago, my IA and I found a cap with two of the three springs inside broken. I finally tracked down the company that makes the Shaw Aero caps (I don=99t remember the exact story, but I think Shaw Aero had been sold to a new =9Cparent=9D company). Anyway, I spoke with the guy who presented himself as the tech rep for the fuel cap product. To say he was less than helpful would be an understatement. His position was that, since there was no approved field repair for the caps, he would provide neither drawings nor parts lists to me nor my IA. He said the only fix/repair/service for a worn or broken cap was to send it to his facility for overhaul to the tune of something like $325. This is my recollection of something that happened over a year ago, so the specific details might be a little off, but they are close. What I am absolutely sure of is that I couldn=99t get any tech support from the company now making the Shaw Aero caps. If somebody can schmooze a parts list or tech drawing, I=99d sure like a copy. Oh, a source for parts would be awesome too. As if! Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps. Got a question on gas caps. During an annual on a 79 Tiger, I noticed the fuel cap "O" ring was deteriorated and decided to replace the "O" rings. When I opened up the inside for the little "O" ring, I found some Tinnerman clips acting as springs for the locking mechanism. Had I not just done the same "O" ring replacement on a 79 Cheetah's fuel caps, I wouldn't have questioned it. I tried to find info on it in the maintenance manual but it isn't there. No IPB. I found this link during a Google search. It's helpful, but I still need a parts breakdown. http://www.csobeech.com/fuel-caps.html Is the make/model a Shaw 531? Gary <><><>www.buildersbooks.com<><><><>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tea mGrumman-List<>http://forums.matronics.comwww.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">http:///http://www.homebuilthelp.co m">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.co m">http://forums.matronics.com www.ow" target="_blank" href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h"nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tea=========


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    Time: 05:36:05 PM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Grumman gas caps.
    they are all surface mount. they won't work.=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________ ______________=0AFrom: Dick Butz <dickbutz@therock.bm>=0ATo: teamgrumman-li st@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, November 18, 2010 4:49:24 PM=0ASubject: Re: T eamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps.=0A=0A=0AWhat about these?=0Ahttp://www.a ircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/aerofuelcaps.php=0ADick =0AFrom: Gary Vog t =0ASent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:23 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matro nics.com =0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps.=0A nice, but you couldn't make them work without making it look like it was =0Ahomemade .=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Dick Butz <dickbutz@t herock.bm>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, November 18, 2 010 3:54:24 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps.=0A=0A =0ACheck out these caps:=0Ahttp://www.gmpracingproducts.com.au/fuel-cells/f uel-cell-bladder-fill-plate-aircraft-style-flush-caps.php=0A=0AAlso some at Speedway motors=0A =0ADick Butz =0AFrom: Don Curry =0ASent: Thursday, Nove mber 18, 2010 1:23 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps.=0A About a year ago, my IA and I foun d a cap with two of the three springs =0Ainside broken. I finally tracked down the company that makes the Shaw Aero =0Acaps (I don=99t remembe r the exact story, but I think Shaw Aero had been sold to =0Aa new =9Cparent=9D company). Anyway, I spoke with the guy who presented h imself as =0Athe tech rep for the fuel cap product. To say he was less th an helpful would =0Abe an understatement. His position was that, since th ere was no approved field =0Arepair for the caps, he would provide neither drawings nor parts lists to me nor =0Amy IA. He said the only fix/repair /service for a worn or broken cap was to =0Asend it to his facility for ov erhaul to the tune of something like $325. This =0Ais my recollection of something that happened over a year ago, so the specific =0Adetails might be a little off, but they are close. What I am absolutely sure =0Aof is t hat I couldn=99t get any tech support from the company now making th e Shaw =0AAero caps. If somebody can schmooze a parts list or tech drawin g, I=99d sure =0Alike a copy. Oh, a source for parts would be awesom e too. As if!=0ADon =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-tea mgrumman-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-serve r@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:26 PM=0ATo: Teamgrumman List=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman gas caps.=0A =0AGot a question on gas caps. =0A =0ADuring an annual on a 79 Tiger, I noticed the fuel cap "O" ring was =0Adeteriorated and decided to replace the "O" rings. When I opened up the inside =0Afor the little "O" ring, I found some Tinnerman clips acting as springs for the =0Alocking m echanism. Had I not just done the same "O" ring replacement on a 79 =0ACh eetah's fuel caps, I wouldn't have questioned it. I tried to find info on it =0Ain the maintenance manual but it isn't there. No IPB. I found th is link =0Aduring a Google search. It's helpful, but I still need a parts breakdown. =0A=0A =0Ahttp://www.csobeech.com/fuel-caps.html=0A =0AIs the make/model a Shaw 531?=0A =0AGary=0A =0A =0A =0A<>=0A<>=0A<>=0Awww.builder sbooks.com=0A<>=0A<>=0A<>=0A<>=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGru mman-List=0A<>=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Awww.aeroelectric.com =0Ahref ="http://www.buildersbooks.com">http:///http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www .homebuilthelp.com=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-L ist">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://foru ms.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0Am =0A=0Awww.ow" target="_ blank" =0Ahref="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooofollow" tar get="_blank" =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h"nofollow " target="_blank" =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tea== ======= =0A=0A=0A href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.a eroelectric.com =0Ahref="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks. com> =0Ahref="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com> =0Ahre f="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matroni cs.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http: ================== =0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 10:27:08 PM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: GG rant
    I don't even mind Ron's shtick so much as the list moderator's view that they reserve the right to control membership and content to a ridiculous degree. Jamey From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airman@appledumplings.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:17 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: GG rant On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:00 AM, TeamGrumman-List Digest Server wrote: > GG was, and still is, Ron's holier than thou approach to literally every topic > > that is mentioned. No one ever gets in the last word. Where does he find the > > time to insert himself into every topic? There is one of the truest statements to every be uttered by humans. Thomas _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com




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