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1. 11:13 AM - nose strut (Gary Vogt)
2. 01:01 PM - Re: nose strut (flyv35b)
3. 02:11 PM - Re: nose strut (FLYaDIVE)
4. 02:38 PM - Re: nose strut (Linn Walters)
5. 06:34 PM - Re: nose strut (Garner Rice)
6. 07:56 PM - Re: nose strut (Gary Vogt)
7. 08:28 PM - Re: nose strut (Gary Vogt)
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this is, without exception, the worst case of a mechanic not knowing a fucking
thing about Grummans (I can say that here) that I've ever seen.
Strut had been removed using a hammer and chain and pipe wrench.
The pics were taken AFTER I had sanded it out the best I could.
The strut was covered with rust. It took a long time to get it this clean.
After sanding and cleaning, I acid etched it, primed it, and painted it. I'll
see how it looks in a few hours.
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I wouldn't waste any time on it. I'd call it unairworthy.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Vogt
To: Teamgrumman List
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: nose strut
this is, without exception, the worst case of a mechanic not knowing a
fucking thing about Grummans (I can say that here) that I've ever seen.
Strut had been removed using a hammer and chain and pipe wrench.
The pics were taken AFTER I had sanded it out the best I could.
The strut was covered with rust. It took a long time to get it this
clean.
After sanding and cleaning, I acid etched it, primed it, and painted
it. I'll see how it looks in a few hours.
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Gary:
Was the strut cavity deformed because he might have over tighten the bolt.
Barry
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> this is, without exception, the worst case of a mechanic not knowing a
> fucking thing about Grummans (I can say that here) that I've ever seen.
>
> Strut had been removed using a hammer and chain and pipe wrench.
>
> The pics were taken AFTER I had sanded it out the best I could.
>
> The strut was covered with rust. It took a long time to get it this clean.
>
>
> After sanding and cleaning, I acid etched it, primed it, and painted it.
> I'll see how it looks in a few hours.
>
>
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Now that's ridiculous. You should be able to bill a line item for
recovery of part from hands of incompetent A&P. Actually, I really
think the FAA should be advised. This level of professionalism could
get somebody killed.
IMHO, of course.
Linn
On 12/16/2010 2:10 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> this is, without exception, the worst case of a mechanic not knowing a
> fucking thing about Grummans (I can say that here) that I've ever seen.
>
> Strut had been removed using a hammer and chain and pipe wrench.
>
> The pics were taken AFTER I had sanded it out the best I could.
>
> The strut was covered with rust. It took a long time to get it this
> clean.
>
> After sanding and cleaning, I acid etched it, primed it, and painted
> it. I'll see how it looks in a few hours.
>
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He must have not used a calibrated pipe wrench. I have talked to mechanics
that have admitted useing a large pipe wrench and heated the joint to almo
st a red glow. They are out there working on planes.
Garner
From: pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: nose strut
Now that's ridiculous. You should be able to bill a line item for recovery
of part from hands of incompetent A&P. Actually=2C I really think the FAA
should be advised. This level of professionalism could get somebody kille
d.
IMHO=2C of course.
Linn
On 12/16/2010 2:10 PM=2C Gary Vogt wrote:
this is=2C without exception=2C the worst case of a mechanic not knowing a
fucking thing about Grummans (I can say that here) that I've ever seen.
Strut had been removed using a hammer and chain and pipe wrench.
The pics were taken AFTER I had sanded it out the best I could.
The strut was covered with rust. It took a long time to get it this clean.
After sanding and cleaning=2C I acid etched it=2C primed it=2C and painted
it. I'll see how it looks in a few hours.
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good catch, Barry. I'll check.
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From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 2:09:00 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: nose strut
Gary:
Was the strut cavity deformed because he might have over tighten the bolt.
Barry
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
this is, without exception, the worst case of a mechanic not knowing a fucking
thing about Grummans (I can say that here) that I've ever seen.
>
>
>Strut had been removed using a hammer and chain and pipe wrench.
>
>
>The pics were taken AFTER I had sanded it out the best I could.
>
>
>The strut was covered with rust. It took a long time to get it this clean.
>
>
>After sanding and cleaning, I acid etched it, primed it, and painted it. I'll
>see how it looks in a few hours.
>
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Oh, oh. I hear a story coming.
In 1998, not long after I started working on planes full time, I got a plane
that was based in Temecula, CA. It had been maintained by the same mechanic/FBO
for the past 15 years. I forget all of the details, but I found 88 items that
would ground the plane. I found a total of 119 items that needed to be
corrected. At one point, standing in the cockpit (sans seats), and looked
around. I said, "OK, I know I have to be on candid camera." The plane was a
joke. My mentor, Mike Grimes (look at the authors listed in AC 43-13B), told me
to report the mechanic to the FAA. I did. I followed up on it and was told
there really wasn't anything they could do.
The mechanic in Columbia, CA needs to be closed down too.
________________________________
From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 2:34:39 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: nose strut
Now that's ridiculous. You should be able to bill a line item for recovery
of part from hands of incompetent A&P. Actually, I really think the FAA
should be advised. This level of professionalism could get somebody killed.
IMHO, of course.
Linn
On 12/16/2010 2:10 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
this is, without exception, the worst case of a mechanic not knowing
a
fucking thing about Grummans (I can say that here) that I've ever
seen.
>
>
>Strut had been removed using a hammer and chain and pipe wrench.
>
>
>The pics were taken AFTER I had sanded it out the best I could.
>
>
>The strut was covered with rust. It took a long time to get it this
>clean.
>
>
>After sanding and cleaning, I acid etched it, primed it, and painted
>it. I'll see how it looks in a few hours.
>
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