---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/07/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:04 PM - Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger (Tom Quinn) 2. 01:15 PM - Re: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger (Dwork, Robert) 3. 01:24 PM - Re: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger (dfortnam@AOL.COM) 4. 01:55 PM - Re: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger (FLYaDIVE) 5. 02:08 PM - Re: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger (Linn Walters) 6. 02:26 PM - Re: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger (Hosler, John) 7. 03:36 PM - Re: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:23 PM PST US From: "Tom Quinn" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger I'm thinking about selling my 1977 Tiger and am wondering what the market will bear these days. The Aircraft history and equipment list is as follows: . Approx Airframe TT 2500 hours , 550 SMOH . NDH . Garmin 430 (Non WAAS) . King KX 170B NAVCOM . Garmin GTX-327 Transponder . Garmin GMA 340 Audio Panel . S-TEC 30 w/alt hold (1 year old) . GPSS (1 year old) . JPI-450 Fuel Flow Indicator (1 year old) . New LoPresti Boom Beam landing light System . DME . New Sensenich Prop . Interior Original 5 condition . Exterior Original 5 condition I had a broker look at it and he told me that he thought the fair market value was high 30's low 40's! I think one of us is on drugs, I hope it's not me! Thoughts? Tom Quinn 249RR ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:07 PM PST US Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger From: "Dwork, Robert" Sounds low, but maybe not by much! I put my 1974 Traveler, about the same airframe/engine time as yours, similarly equipped except for the A/P, but new leather interior, on the market last June. Started at 36k, zero interest until I dropped the price to 29k, finally sold at that price five months later. Granted, it's a Traveler, but still. > ____________________________________ > Robert B. Dwork | Special Investigative Unit | Arbella Insurance Group > 1100 Crown Colony Drive | Quincy, MA 02169 | phone (617) 328-2425| fax: (617) 328-2851 | robert.dwork@arbella.com > -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Quinn Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger I'm thinking about selling my 1977 Tiger and am wondering what the market will bear these days. The Aircraft history and equipment list is as follows: . Approx Airframe TT 2500 hours , 550 SMOH . NDH . Garmin 430 (Non WAAS) . King KX 170B NAVCOM . Garmin GTX-327 Transponder . Garmin GMA 340 Audio Panel . S-TEC 30 w/alt hold (1 year old) . GPSS (1 year old) . JPI-450 Fuel Flow Indicator (1 year old) . New LoPresti Boom Beam landing light System . DME . New Sensenich Prop . Interior Original 5 condition . Exterior Original 5 condition I had a broker look at it and he told me that he thought the fair market value was high 30's low 40's! I think one of us is on drugs, I hope it's not me! Thoughts? Tom Quinn 249RR This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this message. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger From: dfortnam@AOL.COM Hi Tom, I don't think it's you! Check AOPA V-Ref. I did a quick entry and got $57K. That may be a little optimistic in today's market, but I think you can do better than low $40's. I wish I could buy it! Doug Fortnam KASH NH Flying Association -----Original Message----- From: Tom Quinn Sent: Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:04 pm Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger I'm thinking about selling my 1977 Tiger and am wondering what the market w ill bear these days. The Aircraft history and equipment list is as follows: =C2=B7 Approx Airframe TT 2500 hours , 550 SMOH =C2=B7 NDH =C2=B7 Garmin 430 (Non WAAS) =C2=B7 King KX 170B NAVCOM =C2=B7 Garmin GTX-327 Transponder =C2=B7 Garmin GMA 340 Audio Panel =C2=B7 S-TEC 30 w/alt hold (1 year old) =C2=B7 GPSS (1 year old) =C2=B7 JPI-450 Fuel Flow Indicator (1 year old) =C2=B7 New LoPresti Boom Beam landing light System =C2=B7 DME =C2=B7 New Sensenich Prop =C2=B7 Interior Original 5 condition =C2=B7 Exterior Original 5 condition I had a broker look at it and he told me that he thought the fair market va lue was high 30=99s low 40=99s! I think one of us is on drugs, I hope it=99s not me! Thoughts? Tom Quinn 249RR -= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger From: FLYaDIVE ALL BROKERS are on DRUGS ... And those that use them pay for their drugs. Barry On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Tom Quinn wrote: > I'm thinking about selling my 1977 Tiger and am wondering what the marke t > will bear these days. The Aircraft history and equipment list is as follo ws: > > > =B7 Approx Airframe TT 2500 hours , 550 SMOH > > =B7 NDH > > =B7 Garmin 430 (Non WAAS) > > =B7 King KX 170B NAVCOM > > =B7 Garmin GTX-327 Transponder > > =B7 Garmin GMA 340 Audio Panel > > =B7 S-TEC 30 w/alt hold (1 year old) > > =B7 GPSS (1 year old) > > =B7 JPI-450 Fuel Flow Indicator (1 year old) > > =B7 New LoPresti Boom Beam landing light System > > =B7 DME > > =B7 New Sensenich Prop > > =B7 Interior Original 5 condition > > =B7 Exterior Original 5 condition > > > I had a broker look at it and he told me that he thought the fair market > value was high 30=92s low 40=92s! I think one of us is on drugs, I hope i t=92s not > me! Thoughts? > > > Tom Quinn > > 249RR > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:13 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger When I was in the broker business, putting both buyer and seller on the ramp looking at the same airplane ..... the seller sees a bar of gold sitting there and the buyer ..... sees a lead bar. You should hear the bickering back and forth!!!! Listening to the conversation was hilarious as each person added and subtracted 'value' to substantiate their viewpoint. I was spending far too much time for the gains so I just gave it up. Linn On 1/7/2011 4:53 PM, FLYaDIVE wrote: > ALL BROKERS are on DRUGS ... > And those that use them pay for their drugs. > > Barry > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Tom Quinn > wrote: > > I'm thinking about selling my 1977 Tiger and am wondering what the > market will bear these days. The Aircraft history and equipment > list is as follows: > > =B7Approx Airframe TT 2500 hours , 550 SMOH > > =B7NDH > > =B7Garmin 430 (Non WAAS) > > =B7King KX 170B NAVCOM > > =B7Garmin GTX-327 Transponder > > =B7Garmin GMA 340 Audio Panel > > =B7S-TEC 30 w/alt hold (1 year old) > > =B7GPSS (1 year old) > > =B7JPI-450 Fuel Flow Indicator (1 year old) > > =B7New LoPresti Boom Beam landing light System > > =B7DME > > =B7New Sensenich Prop > > =B7Interior Original 5 condition > > =B7Exterior Original 5 condition > > I had a broker look at it and he told me that he thought the fair > market value was high 30=92s low 40=92s! I think one of us is on > drugs, I hope it=92s not me! Thoughts? > > Tom Quinn > > 249RR > > * > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumma n-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:07 PM PST US Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger From: "Hosler, John" I would say 70K min. ________________________________ From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Quinn Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger I'm thinking about selling my 1977 Tiger and am wondering what the market will bear these days. The Aircraft history and equipment list is as follows: * Approx Airframe TT 2500 hours , 550 SMOH * NDH * Garmin 430 (Non WAAS) * King KX 170B NAVCOM * Garmin GTX-327 Transponder * Garmin GMA 340 Audio Panel * S-TEC 30 w/alt hold (1 year old) * GPSS (1 year old) * JPI-450 Fuel Flow Indicator (1 year old) * New LoPresti Boom Beam landing light System * DME * New Sensenich Prop * Interior Original 5 condition * Exterior Original 5 condition I had a broker look at it and he told me that he thought the fair market value was high 30's low 40's! I think one of us is on drugs, I hope it's not me! Thoughts? Tom Quinn 249RR ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:01 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fair Asking Price for 1977 Tiger Tom, sounds like a great airplane. I just sold a higher performance higher cost airplane in order to buy a 79 Cheetah. So I have been on both sides of the fence in the last 30 days. It is truly a buyers market. To sell my airplane I answered more questions and responded to so many detailed questions before anyone would even come to look. I have owned and sold many airplanes and never experienced anything like this market. I finally lowered the price significantly and that is what sold the airplane. When buying the Cheetah, I called the seller and determined if the airplane was truly as advertised, I advised him of my selling experience, He had experience the same. I made an offer that was 20% under VREF and he accepted. I believe I got a great buy, better than I expected. I probably would have paid more, although it might of taken me a couple more weeks to come to that conclusion. Your plane is Unique, You have great radios and a great autopilot - There is someone who is looking for a good Tiger with an avionics package and an autopilot exactly like you have it. I believe that you can easily sell it in the high 50's, or low 60's even in this severely depressed market, you just have to find that buyer that is looking for the upgrades that you have. It could take a week or it could take months. I would strongly advise you to set-up a web site that includes complete spec's, compressions, etc. and tons of photos, it will greatly reduce your wasted time and level of frustration. Best of luck. David Boone ---- Tom Quinn wrote: > I'm thinking about selling my 1977 Tiger and am wondering what the market > will bear these days. The Aircraft history and equipment list is as follows: > > > > . Approx Airframe TT 2500 hours , 550 SMOH > > . NDH > > . Garmin 430 (Non WAAS) > > . King KX 170B NAVCOM > > . Garmin GTX-327 Transponder > > . Garmin GMA 340 Audio Panel > > . S-TEC 30 w/alt hold (1 year old) > > . GPSS (1 year old) > > . JPI-450 Fuel Flow Indicator (1 year old) > > . New LoPresti Boom Beam landing light System > > . DME > > . New Sensenich Prop > > . Interior Original 5 condition > > . Exterior Original 5 condition > > > > > > I had a broker look at it and he told me that he thought the fair market > value was high 30's low 40's! I think one of us is on drugs, I hope it's not > me! Thoughts? > > > > > > Tom Quinn > > 249RR > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.