---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/03/11: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:38 AM - Fw: Please provide insurance certification (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 2. 10:56 AM - Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (cloudvalley@comcast.net) 3. 11:00 AM - KSAV2011 PRE CONVENTION FLY IN Article # 4 (Wes Chapman) 4. 11:12 AM - Please provide insurance certification (Curt Johnson) 5. 11:41 AM - Re: Please provide insurance certification (Wes Chapman) 6. 12:13 PM - Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (Airport Bum) 7. 01:35 PM - Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (Linn Walters) 8. 01:36 PM - Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (Linn Walters) 9. 02:03 PM - Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (Rick) 10. 02:24 PM - Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (Ronald Millman CPA) 11. 02:34 PM - Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (cloudvalley@comcast.net) 12. 02:49 PM - Re: [Bulk] Re: Fw: Please provide insurance certification (Linn Walters) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:50 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires and if this is legal. ======================== ======================== ======================== ================= -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Karnezis Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm Subject: Please provide insurance certification You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your pro vider sends an additional copy to this address: City Hall Attn: Andy Heath 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 Auburn, CA 95603 If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to Andy for you. I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for mo re than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we ne ed certification copies. Thanks for your response. Ivan Karnezis Airport Manager Auburn Municipal Airport (o)530-888-8174 (c)530-386-6671 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:56:15 AM PST US From: cloudvalley@comcast.net Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification Hello, They absolutely cannot force you to show them anything of the sort. It's no ne of their business. Just another attmept at a power grab. So typical in =C2-an evironment of regulation and enforcement these days.=C2-You don' t even have to insure your aircraft if you don't want to Brian and Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:31:45 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification I got this a few weeks ago. =C2-Just wondering what your airport requires and if this is legal. =============== -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Karnezis Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm Subject: Please provide insurance certification You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we d o not already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your prov ider sends an additional copy to this address: City Hall Attn: Andy Heath 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 Auburn, CA 95603 If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on th e airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to Andy for you. I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for mor e than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we nee d certification copies. Thanks for your response. Ivan Karnezis Airport Manager Auburn Municipal Airport (o)530-888-8174 (c)530-386-6671 =============== -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Karnezis Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm Subject: Please provide insurance certification You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we d o not already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your prov ider sends an additional copy to this address: City Hall Attn: Andy Heath 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 Auburn, CA 95603 If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on th e airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to Andy for you. I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for mor e than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we nee d certification copies. Thanks for your response. Ivan Karnezis Airport Manager Auburn Municipal Airport (o)530-888-8174 =============== == ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:21 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: KSAV2011 PRE CONVENTION FLY IN Article # 4 From: Wes Chapman *The following article is the fourth in a series recently published in an grumman related newsletter regarding the 2011 PRE convention fly in in KSAV/Savannah Ga, this coming May 21-23. * * * *(continued from previous editions) * * * *Now that you are in town: Get out of town. While Savannah's historic district is rife with life, her surrounding area offers interesting alternatives for those of you coming in early and/or renting a vehicle for exploration. The Savannah Area Visitor's Center is just 3 blocks from our host hotel and has hordes of information for an expanded visit. We'll suggest a few. * *Just 17miles to the east you'll find Tybee Island, a very laid back non resort island (no golf courses and only one grocery store) whose historic lighthouse beckons you to its top for vista views of ships entering Savannah's harbor or across the sound to Hilton Head. While on the island, kayak enthusiasts should take advantage of visiting the premier sea kayak operation on the Atlantic Coast, Sea Kayak of Georgia. See our friend Ronnie Kemp for world class training or have him schedule a trip and you can paddle versus fly down the Atlantic Coast to KSSI. For you civil war buffs, on the way back across the causeway from Tybee, stop by Ft. Pulaski, a National Park Service preserved civil war fortress that the north made short order of with their rifled cannons, thus beginning the siege of Savannah. Closer in is Ft. Jackson and about 45 minutes south, Ft. McAllister. Back on the mainland, on the scenic bluff above the the Wilmington River, you'll find Bonaventure Cemetery,160 acres of what has been described as "a Victorian sculpture garden where they happen to bury people." * *There are numerous seafood restaurants on the waterways in and around Savannah. If you like your seafood boiled or steamed, Despisito's across the bridge in Thunderbolt is a favorite of ours. Tubby's Tank house is just down the river and always has a crowd. Uncle Bubba's is further out highway 80 towards Tybee and has a nice marsh view deck. Stay away from the heavily advertised touristy places as all you will find is quick cooked food for the masses. * *Do you have an itch for baseball? Catch a Sand Gnats(NY Mets farm team) game over at "Historic Grayson Stadium". Built in 1926, it is the oldest working minor league ballpark in America. If you have room for your golf clubs in your Grumman, head across the river to the Westin Savannah Harbor Golf Resort & Spa, home of the PGA Champions Tour Senior Legends of Golf. * *The deadline to reserve our discounted rate at the Desoto is April 21st. While rooms may still be be available, the hotel can't guarantee space or rates after that date. Many thanks to those of you who have already locked in your reservation. You may book directly via our website listed below on the "where do we stay" page or by dialing 1-800-HILTONS and asking for they AYA rate at the Desoto Hilton Savannah for the fly in dates.* *Remember, this is your time to come and relax and see Savannah at your own pace. We have spiced up your visit by offering a couple of aviation related tours that we are sure you'll enjoy. See the website for details. * *As mentioned in previous articles, Savannah is a great walking town. If you elect to not to rent a car, if not holding court at a pub with Nigel and Graham, Melissa or Wes will be glad to pick you up at the FBO and save you the cab fare to town. Hotel property valet parking rates are $15/24h.* *We encourage you to check out our website www.ksav2011.com. You'll find links to other activities as well as an archive of these articles in The *tar. We will also have a finalized itinerary as the actual dates gel up. If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, contact us via the website or ksav2011@gmail.com* * * -- Wes Chapman Wes Chapman PC PO Box 718 Vidalia, GA 30475 912-293-3794(cell) 1709 Green Acres Drive Vidalia, GA 30474 912-538-8289(home) 305 Maple Drive Vidalia, GA 30474 912-538-0053(work) *Wes Chapman* *1709 Green Acres Drive* *Vidalia, GA 30474* *912-538-8289(home)* *912-293-3794(cell)* Signature powered by WiseStamp ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:25 AM PST US From: Curt Johnson Subject: TeamGrumman-List:Please provide insurance certification McClellan Jet Services required proof of insurance before I could rent a tie-down. They cannot force you to have insurance, but they aren't required to rent you a spot, either. Curt On 3/3/2011 10:44 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote: > > Hello, > > They absolutely cannot force you to show them anything of the sort. > It's none of their business. Just another attmept at a power grab. So > typical in an evironment of regulation and enforcement these days. You > don't even have to insure your aircraft if you don't want to > > Brian and Ruth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:31:45 AM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification > > I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires > and if this is legal. > > > ========================================================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Karnezis > To: Andy Heath > Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm > Subject: Please provide insurance certification > > To: Auburn Airport Aircraft owners > > You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your > current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. > Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not > already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider > sends an additional copy to this address: > > City Hall > Attn: Andy Heath > 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 > Auburn, CA 95603 > > If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the > airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to > Andy for you. > I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more > than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need > certification copies. > > Thanks for your response. > > > Ivan Karnezis > Airport Manager > Auburn Municipal Airport > (o)530-888-8174 > (c)530-386-6671 > * > > > * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:41:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List:Please provide insurance certification From: Wes Chapman We are required to show proof of insurance in order to rent hanger space @ KVDI. *Wes Chapman* *1709 Green Acres Drive* *Vidalia, GA 30474* *912-538-8289(home)* *912-293-3794(cell)* Signature powered by WiseStamp On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Curt Johnson wrote: > McClellan Jet Services required proof of insurance before I could rent a > tie-down. > > They cannot force you to have insurance, but they aren't required to rent > you a spot, either. > > Curt > > On 3/3/2011 10:44 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote: > > Hello, > > They absolutely cannot force you to show them anything of the sort. It's > none of their business. Just another attmept at a power grab. So typical > in an evironment of regulation and enforcement these days. You don't even > have to insure your aircraft if you don't want to > > Brian and Ruth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:31:45 AM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification > > I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires and > if this is legal. > > > ========================================================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Karnezis > To: Andy Heath > Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm > Subject: Please provide insurance certification > > To: Auburn Airport Aircraft owners > > You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your > current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. > Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not > already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider > sends an additional copy to this address: > > City Hall > Attn: Andy Heath > 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 > Auburn, CA 95603 > > If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the > airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to > Andy for you. > I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more > than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need > certification copies. > > Thanks for your response. > > > Ivan Karnezis > Airport Manager > Auburn Municipal Airport > (o)530-888-8174 > (c)530-386-6671 > > * > > * > > * > > * > > > * > > * > > -- Wes Chapman Wes Chapman PC PO Box 718 Vidalia, GA 30475 912-293-3794(cell) 1709 Green Acres Drive Vidalia, GA 30474 912-538-8289(home) 305 Maple Drive Vidalia, GA 30474 912-538-0053(work) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification From: Airport Bum Do they require the same from transient aircraft? Is this for airport or hangar use? It is OK for hangar use, but sounds odd for airport use. cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote: > > >Hello, > >They absolutely cannot force you to show them anything of the sort. It's none of their business. Just another attmept at a power grab. So typical inan evironment of regulation and enforcement these days.You don't even have to insure your aircraft if you don't want to > >Brian and Ruth > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM >To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:31:45 AM >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification > >I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires and if this is legal. > > >=============== > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ivan Karnezis >To: Andy Heath >Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm >Subject: Please provide insurance certification > > >To: Auburn Airport Aircraft owners > >You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your >current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. >Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not >already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider >sends an additional copy to this address: > >City Hall >Attn: Andy Heath >1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 >Auburn, CA 95603 > >If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the >airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to >Andy for you. >I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more >than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need >certification copies. > >Thanks for your response. > > >Ivan Karnezis >Airport Manager >Auburn Municipal Airport >(o)530-888-8174 >(c)530-386-6671 > >=============== > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ivan Karnezis >To: Andy Heath >Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm >Subject: Please provide insurance certification > > >To: Auburn Airport Aircraft owners > >You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your >current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. >Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not >already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider >sends an additional copy to this address: > >City Hall >Attn: Andy Heath >1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 >Auburn, CA 95603 > >If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the >airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to >Andy for you. >I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more >than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need >certification copies. > >Thanks for your response. > > >Ivan Karnezis >Airport Manager >Auburn Municipal Airport >(o)530-888-8174 >=============== >== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:10 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification Been normal at my airport ever since they built the first hangar. I carry liability not-in-motion only that satisfies the airport's limits. Linn On 3/3/2011 1:31 PM, teamgrumman@AOL.COM wrote: > I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires > and if this is legal. > > > ========================================================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Karnezis > To: Andy Heath > Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm > Subject: Please provide insurance certification > > To: Auburn Airport Aircraft owners > > You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your > current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. > Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not > already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider > sends an additional copy to this address: > > City Hall > Attn: Andy Heath > 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 > Auburn, CA 95603 > > If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the > airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to > Andy for you. > I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more > than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need > certification copies. > > Thanks for your response. > > > Ivan Karnezis > Airport Manager > Auburn Municipal Airport > (o)530-888-8174 > (c)530-386-6671 > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:13 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification I'd like to know your basis for that statement. My airport is County owned, and my lease requires liability insurance if I want to keep my hangar. They'd just cancel my lease if I didn't have the insurance. Linn On 3/3/2011 1:44 PM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote: > > Hello, > > They absolutely cannot force you to show them anything of the sort. > It's none of their business. Just another attmept at a power grab. So > typical in an evironment of regulation and enforcement these days. You > don't even have to insure your aircraft if you don't want to > > Brian and Ruth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:31:45 AM > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification > > I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires > and if this is legal. > > > ========================================================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Karnezis > To: Andy Heath > Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm > Subject: Please provide insurance certification > > To: Auburn Airport Aircraft owners > > You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your > current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. > Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not > already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider > sends an additional copy to this address: > > City Hall > Attn: Andy Heath > 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 > Auburn, CA 95603 > > If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the > airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to > Andy for you. > I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more > than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need > certification copies. > > Thanks for your response. > > > Ivan Karnezis > Airport Manager > Auburn Municipal Airport > (o)530-888-8174 > (c)530-386-6671 > * > > > * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:47 PM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification Yes, our airport requires proof of insurance to tie down or be based at the airport. Our insurance company always issues the proof of coverage automatically every year. Rick SMO On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:31 AM, TeamGrumman@aol.com wrote: > I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires and if this is legal. > > > ============== > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Karnezis > To: Andy Heath > Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm > Subject: Please provide insurance certification > > To: Auburn Airport Aircraft owners > > You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your > current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. > Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not > already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider > sends an additional copy to this address: > > City Hall > Attn: Andy Heath > 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 > Auburn, CA 95603 > > If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the > airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to > Andy for you. > I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more > than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need > certification copies. > > Thanks for your response. > > > Ivan Karnezis > Airport Manager > Auburn Municipal Airport > (o)530-888-8174 > (c)530-386-6671 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:18 PM PST US From: "Ronald Millman CPA" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification ?I recently sold my plane. tired of: 1. gas prices 2. hangar inspections 3. high upkeep. 4. Simply navigating thru So. Cal was not fun anymore. Ronald D. Millman, C.P.A. "The greatest good you can do for another is not just to share your riches but to reveal to him his own" Benjamin Disraeli Hey, that's what a CPA does! ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:31 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification I got this a few weeks ago. Just wondering what your airport requires and if this is legal. ============== -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Karnezis > To: Andy Heath > Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm Subject: Please provide insurance certification You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we do not already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your provider sends an additional copy to this address: City Hall Attn: Andy Heath 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 Auburn, CA 95603 If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on the airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to Andy for you. I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for more than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we need certification copies. Thanks for your response. Ivan Karnezis Airport Manager Auburn Municipal Airport (o)530-888-8174 (c)530-386-6671 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:28 PM PST US From: cloudvalley@comcast.net Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification You are not required to have insurance, when you own an airplane. Who are t hey, the airport managemenmt to regulate aircraft??!!=C2-It is not in the ir purview to regulate that. None of their business. If it was me, I would rather move, or get a lawyer to challenge their so-called authority. Too ma ny people are giving up authority to people who are on a power trip. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linn Walters" Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 1:33:32 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification I'd like to know your basis for that statement. My airport is County owned, and my lease requires liability insurance if I want to keep my hangar.=C2- They'd just cancel my lease if I didn't have the insurance. Linn On 3/3/2011 1:44 PM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote: Hello, They absolutely cannot force you to show them anything of the sort. It's no ne of their business. Just another attmept at a power grab. So typical in =C2-an evironment of regulation and enforcement these days.=C2-You don' t even have to insure your aircraft if you don't want to Brian and Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:31:45 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification I got this a few weeks ago. =C2-Just wondering what your airport requires and if this is legal. =============== -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Karnezis Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 5:44 pm Subject: Please provide insurance certification You are receiving this email because the City does not have a copy of your current insurance certification for (at least one of) your aircraft. Please immediately provide a copy for each of your aircraft (for which we d o not already have a current copy) and assure that each time you renew, your prov ider sends an additional copy to this address: City Hall Attn: Andy Heath 1225 Lincoln Way, Room 1 Auburn, CA 95603 If it's more convenient, you may bring your current copy to my office on th e airport. If I am not there, slip it under my office door. I will deliver it to Andy for you. I am keeping a database of this information. If you are responsible for mor e than one aircraft, you may contact me to find out for which aircraft we nee d certification copies. Thanks for your response. 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None of their business. > If it was me, I would rather move, or get a lawyer to challenge their > so-called authority. Too many people are giving up authority to people > who are on a power trip. > I really don't have to have AIRCRAFT liability insurance. I need proof of liability insurance (of any kind) to rent a hangar owned and operated by the County. It's cheaper to put insurance on the airplane than any other insurance I've found. It's no more a power trip than a dwelling owner making the renter buy insurance as a condition of occupancy. If you own your own hangar, then you are welcome to do whatever you need to do to protect the structure. My airport is just protecting it's investment. This requirement is normal for rental at government-owned facilities ..... that are self-insured. I'm curious .... do you own, rent a hangar, or tie down??? Linn > Brian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linn Walters" > To: "grumman2" > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 1:33:32 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fwd: Please provide insurance certification > > I'd like to know your basis for that statement. > My airport is County owned, and my lease requires liability insurance > if I want to keep my hangar. They'd just cancel my lease if I didn't > have the insurance. > Linn > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.