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     1. 03:41 AM - Re: Millennium cylinders (Andy)
     2. 05:57 AM - Re: fuel pump question (flyv35b)
     3. 05:57 AM - Re: Millennium cylinders (flyv35b)
     4. 06:52 AM - Re: fuel pump question (Garner Rice)
     5. 06:59 AM - Re: Millennium cylinders (FLYaDIVE)
     6. 06:59 AM - Re: fuel pump question (FLYaDIVE)
     7. 07:54 AM - Re: Millennium cylinders (flyv35b)
     8. 10:43 AM - Re: Millennium cylinders (FLYaDIVE)
     9. 01:39 PM - Re: Millennium cylinders (flyv35b)
    10. 08:33 PM - Re: Millennium cylinders (Gary Vogt)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Millennium cylinders | 
      
      Gary,
      
      My Tiger (O-360, of course) had Millennium cylinders.  In fact I have a 
      fresh spare sitting in the hanger that I never needed.....I can check 
      the markings on if need be and It is available for sale or trade if you 
      or someone needs it.
      
      Andy Thomas
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Gary Vogt 
        To: Teamgrumman List 
        Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:34 PM
        Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Millennium cylinders
      
      
        Got another question
      
      
        This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of SLC36005. 
       The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for an 
      O320E2D.  
      
      
        This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders  . . .  can it?
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pump question | 
      
      
      The nut probably broke off at sometime.  It was brazed or soldered on 
      and can be broken off with to much torque.  Original nut used a 5/8" 
      wrench and the more recent ones use 7/8".
      
      Cliff
      
      On 3/15/2011 5:39 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
      > The electric boost pump on the TIger I've been working on, the cap where
      > the filter goes, doesn't have a hex nut or anything on the bottom.
      >
      > Question: Is this an early design? or is this an anomaly?
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: Millennium cylinders | 
      
      
      The O-320 has a shorter stroke.  If you used O-320 cylinders with the 
      O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would hit the top of 
      the cylinder heads or the valves.  If that didn't happen the CR would be 
      extreemly high!  The head casting number may be the same, just a longer 
      barrel on the O-320 possibly.
      
      Cliff
      
      On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
      > Got another question
      >
      > This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of SLC36005.
      > The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for an O320E2D.
      >
      > This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
      >
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| Subject:  | fuel pump question | 
      
      
      The original pumps were supplie dby Bendix and the nut was welded on the fi
      lter cap. The new pumps have the dut as part of the filter cap and it is st
      amped as part of the filter cap. Give me a call and I will send you a  cap 
      from one of the pumps that dont perform to the requirments and cant be PMA 
      approved.
      
      Garner
      
      
      > Date: Wed=2C 16 Mar 2011 05:47:50 -0700
      > From: flyv35b@minetfiber.com
      > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: fuel pump question
      > 
      > 
      > The nut probably broke off at sometime. It was brazed or soldered on 
      > and can be broken off with to much torque. Original nut used a 5/8" 
      > wrench and the more recent ones use 7/8".
      > 
      > Cliff
      > 
      > On 3/15/2011 5:39 PM=2C Gary Vogt wrote:
      > > The electric boost pump on the TIger I've been working on=2C the cap wh
      ere
      > > the filter goes=2C doesn't have a hex nut or anything on the bottom.
      > >
      > > Question: Is this an early design? or is this an anomaly?
      > >
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      > >
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| Subject:  | Re: Millennium cylinders | 
      
      Cliff:
      
      Are you sure about that?  I was told just the opposite from an engine shop.
       Is there any way it can be researched?
      
      Barry
      "Chop'd Liver"
      PS:
      
      I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
      
      =================================================
      On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > The O-320 has a shorter stroke.  If you used O-320 cylinders with the O-360
      > crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would hit the top of the cylinder
      > heads or the valves.  If that didn't happen the CR would be extreemly high!
      >  The head casting number may be the same, just a longer barrel on the O-320
      > possibly.
      >
      > Cliff
      >
      >
      > On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
      >
      >> Got another question
      >>
      >> This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of SLC36005.
      >> The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for an
      >> O320E2D.
      >>
      >> This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
      >>
      >> *
      >>
      >>
      >> *
      >>
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pump question | 
      
      Gary:
      
      FAUCET does make a SEALED pump.  But it is NOT an aircraft pump.
      
      Barry
      
      On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > The electric boost pump on the TIger I've been working on, the cap where
      > the filter goes, doesn't have a hex nut or anything on the bottom.
      >
      > Question:  Is this an early design?  or is this an anomaly?
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Millennium cylinders | 
      
      
      Sure about what?  I didn't say I was sure about anything except that the 
      O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
      
      Cliff
      
      On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
      > Cliff:
      >
      > Are you sure about that?  I was told just the opposite from an engine
      > shop.  Is there any way it can be researched?
      >
      > Barry
      > "Chop'd Liver"
      > PS:
      >
      > I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
      >
      > ========================
      > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com
      > <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>> wrote:
      >
      >     <flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>
      >
      >     The O-320 has a shorter stroke.  If you used O-320 cylinders with
      >     the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would hit the
      >     top of the cylinder heads or the valves.  If that didn't happen the
      >     CR would be extreemly high!  The head casting number may be the
      >     same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
      >
      >     Cliff
      >
      >
      >     On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
      >
      >         Got another question
      >
      >         This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
      >         SLC36005.
      >         The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for
      >         an O320E2D.
      >
      >         This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
      >
      >         *
      >
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: Millennium cylinders | 
      
      Yes, Cliff....
      
      I was told the connecting rod was shorter on an O-360 than on an O-320.
      Just the opposite of what stated.  I did not do the research, I do not have
      the factory manual for building an O-360.  Only want was told to be by
      Columbia Engines.
      
      Barry
      
      
      On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:51 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > Sure about what?  I didn't say I was sure about anything except that the
      > O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
      >
      > Cliff
      >
      >
      > On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
      >
      >> Cliff:
      >>
      >> Are you sure about that?  I was told just the opposite from an engine
      >> shop.  Is there any way it can be researched?
      >>
      >> Barry
      >> "Chop'd Liver"
      >> PS:
      >>
      >> I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
      >>
      >> ========================
      >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com
      >> <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>> wrote:
      >>
      >>    <flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>
      >>
      >>
      >>    The O-320 has a shorter stroke.  If you used O-320 cylinders with
      >>    the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would hit the
      >>    top of the cylinder heads or the valves.  If that didn't happen the
      >>    CR would be extreemly high!  The head casting number may be the
      >>    same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
      >>
      >>    Cliff
      >>
      >>
      >>    On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
      >>
      >>        Got another question
      >>
      >>        This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
      >>        SLC36005.
      >>        The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for
      >>        an O320E2D.
      >>
      >>        This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
      >>
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| Subject:  | Re: Millennium cylinders | 
      
      
      I wasn't talking about the connecting rod length, but the engine stroke. 
        Since both engines have the same bore the O-360 has a greater stroke. 
        As to cylinder length, I have both cylinders in my hanger, so I'll 
      check on their length when I get a chance.  I still think the O-360 
      cylinder is longer.
      
      Cliff
      
      On 3/16/2011 10:20 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
      > Yes, Cliff....
      >
      > I was told the connecting rod was shorter on an O-360 than on an O-320.
      > Just the opposite of what stated.  I did not do the research, I do not
      > have the factory manual for building an O-360.  Only want was told to be
      > by Columbia Engines.
      >
      > Barry
      >
      >
      > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:51 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com
      > <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>> wrote:
      >
      >     <flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>
      >
      >     Sure about what?  I didn't say I was sure about anything except that
      >     the O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
      >
      >     Cliff
      >
      >
      >     On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
      >
      >         Cliff:
      >
      >         Are you sure about that?  I was told just the opposite from an
      >         engine
      >         shop.  Is there any way it can be researched?
      >
      >         Barry
      >         "Chop'd Liver"
      >         PS:
      >
      >         I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
      >
      >
      >         On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com
      >         <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
      >         <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>>
      >         wrote:
      >
      >         <flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
      >         <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>>
      >
      >
      >             The O-320 has a shorter stroke.  If you used O-320 cylinders
      >         with
      >             the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would
      >         hit the
      >             top of the cylinder heads or the valves.  If that didn't
      >         happen the
      >             CR would be extreemly high!  The head casting number may be the
      >             same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
      >
      >             Cliff
      >
      >
      >             On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
      >
      >                 Got another question
      >
      >                 This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
      >                 SLC36005.
      >                 The only thing I can find on the internet is an
      >         application for
      >                 an O320E2D.
      >
      >                 This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
      >
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      >
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: Millennium cylinders | 
      
      Cliff,
      
      The O360 is 1/2 inch longer.  These have to be the right cylinders.  Not sure 
      why the casting number doesn't show up on Superiors web site.
      
      Gary
      
      
      ________________________________
      From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
      Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:37:06 PM
      Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Millennium cylinders
      
      
      I wasn't talking about the connecting rod length, but the engine stroke. 
        Since both engines have the same bore the O-360 has a greater stroke. 
        As to cylinder length, I have both cylinders in my hanger, so I'll 
      check on their length when I get a chance.  I still think the O-360 
      cylinder is longer.
      
      Cliff
      
      On 3/16/2011 10:20 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
      > Yes, Cliff....
      >
      > I was told the connecting rod was shorter on an O-360 than on an O-320.
      > Just the opposite of what stated.  I did not do the research, I do not
      > have the factory manual for building an O-360.  Only want was told to be
      > by Columbia Engines.
      >
      > Barry
      >
      >
      > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:51 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com
      > <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>> wrote:
      >
      >     <flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>
      >
      >     Sure about what?  I didn't say I was sure about anything except that
      >     the O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
      >
      >     Cliff
      >
      >
      >     On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
      >
      >         Cliff:
      >
      >         Are you sure about that?  I was told just the opposite from an
      >         engine
      >         shop.  Is there any way it can be researched?
      >
      >         Barry
      >         "Chop'd Liver"
      >         PS:
      >
      >         I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
      >
      >
      >         On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com
      >         <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
      >         <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>>
      >         wrote:
      >
      >         <flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
      >         <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>>
      >
      >
      >             The O-320 has a shorter stroke.  If you used O-320 cylinders
      >         with
      >             the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would
      >         hit the
      >             top of the cylinder heads or the valves.  If that didn't
      >         happen the
      >             CR would be extreemly high!  The head casting number may be the
      >             same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
      >
      >             Cliff
      >
      >
      >             On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
      >
      >                 Got another question
      >
      >                 This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
      >                 SLC36005.
      >                 The only thing I can find on the internet is an
      >         application for
      >                 an O320E2D.
      >
      >                 This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
      >
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      >
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