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     5. 10:07 PM - Re: Ipad 2 For Sale (Bob Hodo)
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      My son has an Ipad 2 that he bought a little over a month ago.- New job a
      nd new living on his own brought him new expenses = I wish I had waited.
      
      Planning on listing it on ebay Sunday evening, but thought I'd offer it to 
      the grummanites who have been talking about it so much.
      
      It comes with the box and the wall charger.- It also comes with a screen 
      protector that folds away leaving a tilt support that is pretty cool.- ($
      30 accessory.)
      
      It has some aps on it he paid for, but he said he can restore it to factory
       settings if you prefer that.
      
      They are bringing around $640 without the screen protector on eBay plus shi
      pping.- First email willing to pay $600 for all of it including shipping 
      UPS ground gets it.
      
      Bob Hodo
      256-442-7249
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ipad 2 For Sale | 
      
      What version is it? Wifi only? 3G? 16, 32 or 64 gig?
      
      
      Claude Allen
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On May 14, 2011, at 10:20 PM, Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > My son has an Ipad 2 that he bought a little over a month ago.  New job an
      d new living on his own brought him new expenses = I wish I had waited.
      > 
      > Planning on listing it on ebay Sunday evening, but thought I'd offer it to
       the grummanites who have been talking about it so much.
      > 
      > It comes with the box and the wall charger.  It also comes with a screen p
      rotector that folds away leaving a tilt support that is pretty cool.  ($30 a
      ccessory.)
      > 
      > It has some aps on it he paid for, but he said he can restore it to factor
      y settings if you prefer that.
      > 
      > They are bringing around $640 without the screen protector on eBay plus sh
      ipping.  First email willing to pay $600 for all of it including shipping UP
      S ground gets it.
      > 
      > Bob Hodo
      > 256-442-7249
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Ipad 2 For Sale | 
      
      I think it is wifi only and 32g.- He connects it using wifi from his 3g d
      roid X
      
      --- On Sat, 5/14/11, allenc3@bellsouth.net <allenc3@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      
      From: allenc3@bellsouth.net <allenc3@bellsouth.net>
      Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Ipad 2 For Sale
      
      What version is it? Wifi only? 3G? 16, 32 or 64 gig?
      
      Claude AllenSent from my iPad
      On May 14, 2011, at 10:20 PM, Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      My son has an Ipad 2 that he bought a little over a month ago.- New job a
      nd new living on his own brought him new expenses = I wish I had waited.
      
      Planning on listing it on ebay Sunday evening, but thought I'd offer it to 
      the grummanites who have been talking about it so much.
      
      It comes with the box and the wall charger.- It also comes with a screen 
      protector that folds away leaving a tilt support that is pretty cool.- ($
      30 accessory.)
      
      It has some aps on it he paid for, but he said he can restore it to factory
       settings if you prefer that.
      
      They are bringing around $640 without the screen protector on eBay plus shi
      pping.- First email willing to pay $600 for all of it including shipping 
      UPS ground gets it.
      
      Bob Hodo
      256-442-7249
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| Subject:  | Re: Ipad 2 For Sale | 
      
      you need a 3G VERSION to have GPS capibility.
      
      Claude Allen
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On May 14, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > I think it is wifi only and 32g.  He connects it using wifi from his 3g dr
      oid X
      > 
      > --- On Sat, 5/14/11, allenc3@bellsouth.net <allenc3@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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      > From: allenc3@bellsouth.net <allenc3@bellsouth.net>
      > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Ipad 2 For Sale
      > To: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
      > Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011, 10:15 PM
      > 
      > What version is it? Wifi only? 3G? 16, 32 or 64 gig?
      > 
      > 
      > Claude Allen
      > Sent from my iPad
      > 
      > On May 14, 2011, at 10:20 PM, Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> wrote:
      > 
      >> My son has an Ipad 2 that he bought a little over a month ago.  New job a
      nd new living on his own brought him new expenses = I wish I had waited.
      >> 
      >> Planning on listing it on ebay Sunday evening, but thought I'd offer it t
      o the grummanites who have been talking about it so much.
      >> 
      >> It comes with the box and the wall charger.  It also comes with a screen p
      rotector that folds away leaving a tilt support that is pretty cool.  ($30 a
      ccessory.)
      >> 
      >> It has some aps on it he paid for, but he said he can restore it to facto
      ry settings if you prefer that.
      >> 
      >> They are bringing around $640 without the screen protector on eBay plus s
      hipping.  First email willing to pay $600 for all of it including shipping U
      PS ground gets it.
      >> 
      >> Bob Hodo
      >> 256-442-7249
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| Subject:  | Re: Ipad 2 For Sale | 
      
      Hey Claude,
      
      I just did a little test with it.- Connected via wifi to Colin's Droid it
       located us against a google road map.- Turned off the wifi on the phone,
       and got the warning on the ipad that the connection to the internet was lo
      st.- But the map was still there, and I was still located on the map.- 
      So I walked to the end of the road and it moved with me, so there apparentl
      y is a gps- built into the unit.
      
      He does not have a separate data plan for the ipad.- He either connects o
      n a wifi that it finds or he connects via his phone thru wifi.
      
      He says it won't update the map if you leave it unless it is internet conne
      cted.- I don't know how that would apply to map subscriptions or whatever
       for use in the air.
      
      Have you used yours at altitude?- I have the same phone and tend to lose 
      cell coverage above 5000' agl, and lose 3g and 1X by the time I hit 8000' a
      gl.- I'm wondering if a 3g ipad would stay connected when a wifi ipad con
      necting via cell phone would drop out.
      
      Bob Hodo
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ipad 2 For Sale | 
      
      no, the gps in the ipad is a true gps, unlike the one in an iphone. My daugh
      ter, who flys a Lear 35 uses hers up to 41000 ft! If you have a 3GS model, y
      ou do not need to have a paid 3G subscription ($25 a month) for the GPS to w
      ork. If it is a 3G Ipad, DL Foreflight ($70 a year) and never buy another ch
      art or plate. Then buy it from your son. You do not have to be connected to t
      he internet via 3G or Wifi, as Foreflight is DL to the ipad. Google maps and
       programs like them must have an internet connection to function. The built i
      n app "Maps" will function without an internet connection if your ipad is in
      deed a 3G model.
      
      Claude Allen
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On May 15, 2011, at 1:04 AM, Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > Hey Claude,
      > 
      > I just did a little test with it.  Connected via wifi to Colin's Droid it l
      ocated us against a google road map.  Turned off the wifi on the phone, and g
      ot the warning on the ipad that the connection to the internet was lost.  Bu
      t the map was still there, and I was still located on the map.  So I walked t
      o the end of the road and it moved with me, so there apparently is a gps  bu
      ilt into the unit.
      > 
      > He does not have a separate data plan for the ipad.  He either connects on
       a wifi that it finds or he connects via his phone thru wifi.
      > 
      > He says it won't update the map if you leave it unless it is internet conn
      ected.  I don't know how that would apply to map subscriptions or whatever f
      or use in the air.
      > 
      > Have you used yours at altitude?  I have the same phone and tend to lose c
      ell coverage above 5000' agl, and lose 3g and 1X by the time I hit 8000' agl
      .  I'm wondering if a 3g ipad would stay connected when a wifi ipad connecti
      ng via cell phone would drop out.
      > 
      > Bob Hodo
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Ipad 2 For Sale | 
      
      No, the GPS in the iPhone 3G and later IS a true GPS, but the iPad only has a
       true gps chip if you have the 3G version. You don't need an active data pla
      n to use that GPS chip, though.
      
      However, a non-3G iPad will still approximate its location using wifi triang
      ulation, just not as accurately as GPS. The best way to tell if you have the
       gps model is to look at the part number and compare it to those at store.ap
      ple.com. 
      
      
      -mel via cell
      
      On May 14, 2011, at 10:31 PM, "allenc3@bellsouth.net" <allenc3@bellsouth.net
      > wrote:
      
      > no, the gps in the ipad is a true gps, unlike the one in an iphone. My dau
      ghter, who flys a Lear 35 uses hers up to 41000 ft! If you have a 3GS model,
       you do not need to have a paid 3G subscription ($25 a month) for the GPS to
       work. If it is a 3G Ipad, DL Foreflight ($70 a year) and never buy another c
      hart or plate. Then buy it from your son. You do not have to be connected to
       the internet via 3G or Wifi, as Foreflight is DL to the ipad. Google maps a
      nd programs like them must have an internet connection to function. The buil
      t in app "Maps" will function without an internet connection if your ipad is
       indeed a 3G model.
      > 
      > Claude Allen
      > Sent from my iPad
      > 
      > On May 15, 2011, at 1:04 AM, Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> wrote:
      > 
      >> Hey Claude,
      >> 
      >> I just did a little test with it.  Connected via wifi to Colin's Droid it
       located us against a google road map.  Turned off the wifi on the phone, an
      d got the warning on the ipad that the connection to the internet was lost. 
       But the map was still there, and I was still located on the map.  So I walk
      ed to the end of the road and it moved with me, so there apparently is a gps
        built into the unit.
      >> 
      >> He does not have a separate data plan for the ipad.  He either connects o
      n a wifi that it finds or he connects via his phone thru wifi.
      >> 
      >> He says it won't update the map if you leave it unless it is internet con
      nected.  I don't know how that would apply to map subscriptions or whatever f
      or use in the air.
      >> 
      >> Have you used yours at altitude?  I have the same phone and tend to lose c
      ell coverage above 5000' agl, and lose 3g and 1X by the time I hit 8000' agl
      .  I'm wondering if a 3g ipad would stay connected when a wifi ipad connecti
      ng via cell phone would drop out.
      >> 
      >> Bob Hodo
      >> 
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