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| Subject: | Re: Ipad 2 For Sale |
It has been sold to someone who doesn't care about the gps part.- (Non Pi
lot)-
--- On Sun, 5/15/11, Mel Beckman <mel@becknet.com> wrote:
From: Mel Beckman <mel@becknet.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Ipad 2 For Sale
No, the GPS in the iPhone 3G and later IS a true GPS, but the iPad only has
a true gps chip if you have the 3G version. You don't need an active data
plan to use that GPS chip, though.
However, a non-3G iPad will still approximate its location using wifi trian
gulation, just not as accurately as GPS. The best way to tell if you have t
he gps model is to look at the part number and compare it to those at store
.apple.com.-
-mel via cell
On May 14, 2011, at 10:31 PM, "allenc3@bellsouth.net" <allenc3@bellsouth.ne
t> wrote:
no, the gps in the ipad is a true gps, unlike the one in an iphone. My daug
hter, who flys a Lear 35 uses hers up to 41000 ft! If you have a 3GS model,
you do not need to have a paid 3G subscription ($25 a month) for the GPS t
o work. If it is a 3G Ipad, DL Foreflight ($70 a year) and never buy anothe
r chart or plate. Then buy it from your son. You do not have to be connecte
d to the internet via 3G or Wifi, as Foreflight is DL to the ipad. Google m
aps and programs like them must have an internet connection to function. Th
e built in app "Maps" will function without an internet connection if your
ipad is indeed a 3G model.
Claude AllenSent from my iPad
On May 15, 2011, at 1:04 AM, Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Claude,
I just did a little test with it.- Connected via wifi to Colin's Droid it
located us against a google road map.- Turned off the wifi on the phone,
and got the warning on the ipad that the connection to the internet was lo
st.- But the map was still there, and I was still located on the map.-
So I walked to the end of the road and it moved with me, so there apparentl
y is a gps- built into the unit.
He does not have a separate data plan for the ipad.- He either connects o
n a wifi that it finds or he connects via his phone thru wifi.
He says it won't update the map if you leave it unless it is internet conne
cted.- I don't know how that would apply to map subscriptions or whatever
for use in the air.
Have you used yours at altitude?- I have the same phone and tend to lose
cell coverage=0A above 5000' agl, and lose 3g and 1X by the time I hit 8000
' agl.- I'm wondering if a 3g ipad would stay connected when a wifi ipad
connecting via cell phone would drop out.
Bob Hodo
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| Subject: | Re: ordering parts for Cowling installation. Part 1 |
- more questions about CamLocs
This is from the latest installation instructions. I have removed the =0Ac
ountersunk nutplates. You only need those if you have #10 nutplates holdin
g =0Ayour old cowling on. The Jaguar cowling is held in place with the #8
screws.=0A=0AI can see I forgot to put the Camloc receptacles in the previo
us list. You =0Awon't need the countersunk receptacles. The cowling is co
untersunk. The =0Areceptacle you need is 214-16N.=0A=0AAs for the screw in
place of a camloc at the front of the upper cowling, I =0Aoriginally inten
ded to put a camloc in there. After installing the camlocs on =0Athe side,
I realized they stick too far into the inlet. If you want, you can =0Arun
a tap through the nutplate and make it real easy to remove the screw. Onc
e =0Ayou snug it down, the friction on the screw keeps it from backing out.
Plus, =0Aeven if you lose it in flight, it's not a big deal. The leading
edge will come =0Aup about 1/4 inch. Ask me how I know. =0A=0AGood quest
ion Boris.=0A=0A=0A=0ATools requiredHardware Required=0A 1.Long board sand
ing block w/ 80, 120, 220, and 320 grit sandpaper=0A 2.Clecos and Clec
o pliers=0A 3.An angled drill with #40, #30, and .125 inch drill bits, a
nd countersinks=0A 4.Assorted screw drivers and files.=0A 5.Hole find
ers=0A 6.Square and straight edge=0A 7.Cutting tool (Dremel=AE)=0A 8
.Paint stir sticks=0A 9.Masking tape (1/4 inch, 1/2 inch, 3/4 inch)=0A
10.Pens and Pencils=0A11.1/16 inch drill bit to set the gap on the edge
s=0A12. Clamps to hold everything in place 1.Centerline Hinge (Fletchair
Inc)=0A 2.Camloc Studs (PN 4002-4S) 10ea=0A 3.Camloc Grommets (PN 40
02-GS) 10ea=0A 4.Camloc retaining rings (PN R4G) 10ea=0A 5.Camloc rec
eptacle (PN 214-16N) 10 ea=0A 6.Nutplates (PN MS21048-L-08) =0A 7.#40
countersunk rivets (PN MS20426 or equiv)=0A 8.#30 countersunk rivets (C
R3212-4-2)=0A 9.Landing light parts from old cowling)=0A10.Truss head
screws (PN AN526C832 x 1/2)=0A11.Countersunk screws (PN MS24693-50)=0A12.
Tinnermann sheet metal nuts (PN A1181-4Z1D)=0A13.#6 PK screws (Genuine Ai
rcraft Hardware PN THA-6R)=0A14.Doublers from old upper cowling.=0A15.P
rimer and paint =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFr
om: b v <bvnj@yahoo.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman@yahoo.com; Phil Kelsey <Phil@Rel
iantAir.com>; Dave Steward =0A<dave@hondahaven.com>; n76lima@mindspring.com
=0ACc: Barry Schulte <flyadive@gmail.com>=0ASent: Sun, May 15, 2011 9:36:57
AM=0ASubject: ordering parts for Cowling installation. Part 1 - more quest
ions about =0ACamLocs=0A=0A=0AHi Gary,=0A =0AHow was your vacation? =0A =0A
I have a couple of questions.=0A =0AQuestion 1: which CamLoc receptacle to
order?=0AAircraftSpruce has 2 receptacles with plain rivet holes (without c
ountersink) - =0Astandard(244-16) and narrow(244-16N). =0Ahttp://www.aircra
ftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/receptacle.php . Which one do we =0Aneed?=0A
=0AQuestion 2: Section 9 of instructions, paragraph 4, calls for 8-32 screw
on the =0Aleading edge of the hinged upper cowl. Why did you decide agains
t using a CamLoc =0Athere?=0A =0AThank you,=0A-Boris =0A=0A--- On Thu, 5/5/
11, n76lima@mindspring.com <n76lima@mindspring.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: n
76lima@mindspring.com <n76lima@mindspring.com>=0A>Subject: Re: cowling=0A>T
o: "Phil Kelsey" <Phil@ReliantAir.com>, "'b v'" <bvnj@yahoo.com>, "Dave =0A
>Steward" <dave@hondahaven.com>=0A>Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 5:49 PM=0A>
=0A>=0A> Thanks! I don't have the current instructions, they are with Dave
and the cowl =0A>in Memphis!=0A>=0A>The early instructions didn't say what
camlocs were used.=0A>=0A>That means you'll need the special Camloc pliers
to install the 4002 studs in =0A>the grommets.=0A>=0A>http://www.aircrafts
pruce.com/catalog/topages/camlocPliers.php=0A>=0A>Wow! They must be making
them in China now. When I bought my pair back in the =0A>80's they were $
30+!=0A>=0A>Alternatively, if you want me to install the studs in the gromm
ents, which you =0A>can then plug into your cowl doors and install the reta
iner snap ring without =0A>any special tools, we can arrange to have them p
re-loaded for you.=0A>=0A>--Bob Steward=0A>=0A> =0A>The cowling install ins
tructions received with my cowling call for 4002-4S =0A>studs, 4002-GS grom
mets, and R4G retaining rings. He forgot to include the =0A>receptacles in
the hardware required listing. =0A>
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