---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/10/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:14 PM - paint code question for Jaguar cowl (b v) 2. 07:55 PM - Re: paint code question for Jaguar cowl (Gary Vogt) 3. 10:51 PM - Re: AD 95-19-15 R1 and SB-185A (Gary L Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:40 PM PST US From: b v Subject: TeamGrumman-List: paint code question for Jaguar cowl Hi guys, I am installing the Jaguar Cowl and need help figuring my paint codes. Please take a look at the attached picture. The tag on the firewall says "Finish and Trim 8-EPHM-29-P". I searched GG archives and among other useful things I found this list of the original paint codes: http://grumman.net/archive/2009/msg07222.html The white paint apparently is Polyurethane Imron 817U, but what are the 2 shades of blue I have on top? Also, both shades of blue are still nice and shiny after 34 years, but the white is chalking and in bad shape. Why is it so? Is it because the blue is not a polyurethane paint but enamel or lacquer and it was baked on? Later I also want to re-paint the wings so I wonder if I can prevent the paint from chalking after a while. Here are 7 blue codes I found in the GG codes list: Grumman # Name Vendor part # --------------------------------------------------------- Polyurethane: ------------- APS-1154-228 Patriot Blue DuPont 6544U Camouflage Blue DuPont 95605U Acrylic Enamel? ------------- APS-1154-301 Bright Blue Metallic DuPont 5574A APS-1154-306 Regal Blue DuPont 5543A APS-1154-307 Grabber Blue DuPont 5205A Laquer? ------------ APS-1154-102 Riviera Blue Ditzler Randolph "X" DDL 13830 APS-1154-128 Patriot Blue Randolph H-9170-R Thank you, -Boris ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:37 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: paint code question for Jaguar cowl Hi Boris, If the white is still the original 817U, it will buff out nicely. Odds are, if the blue is still shiny, it's been repainted. The colors on the 70's era Grummans are RM Centauri Acrylic Enamel. It's not baked on. Also, the colors are not custom colors. The orange, for example, is the orange from a 73 Volkswagon. The metallic brown is from a Dodge or Plymouth of around the same year. I'm sure if you take your ELT cover to an automotive paint store and try to match paint colors from 73 on, you'll find yours. Also, DuPont has totally revised the paint codes for paint sold in California. So, the numbers may not match up. Most paint stores have the old codes though. So, tell us, how's the installation going? How many shims on the engine mounts did you need? Gary ________________________________ From: b v Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 12:11:07 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: paint code question for Jaguar cowl Hi guys, I am installing the Jaguar Cowl and need help figuring my paint codes. Please take a look at the attached picture. The tag on the firewall says "Finish and Trim 8-EPHM-29-P". I searched GG archives and among other useful things I found this list of the original paint codes: http://grumman.net/archive/2009/msg07222.html The white paint apparently is Polyurethane Imron 817U, but what are the 2 shades of blue I have on top? Also, both shades of blue are still nice and shiny after 34 years, but the white is chalking and in bad shape. Why is it so? Is it because the blue is not a polyurethane paint but enamel or lacquer and it was baked on? Later I also want to re-paint the wings so I wonder if I can prevent the paint from chalking after a while. Here are 7 blue codes I found in the GG codes list: Grumman # Name Vendor part # --------------------------------------------------------- Polyurethane: ------------- APS-1154-228 Patriot Blue DuPont 6544U Camouflage Blue DuPont 95605U Acrylic Enamel? ------------- APS-1154-301 Bright Blue Metallic DuPont 5574A APS-1154-306 Regal Blue DuPont 5543A APS-1154-307 Grabber Blue DuPont 5205A Laquer? ------------ APS-1154-102 Riviera Blue Ditzler Randolph "X" DDL 13830 APS-1154-128 Patriot Blue Randolph H-9170-R Thank you, -Boris ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:46 PM PST US From: Gary L Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AD 95-19-15 R1 and SB-185A Did this go out to the TeamGrumman-list? I thought someone would have a com ment. Gary Sent from my iPad On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Gary Vogt wrote: > Ok, so, which has precedence? > > AD 95-19-15 R1 is non-recurring. (Within the next 100 hours aircraft time -in-service (TIS) after November 17, 1995 (the effective date of AD 95 =9319=9315), unless already done) > SB-185A says each 500 hours. > > However: The compliance portion of the AD never references SB-185. The o nly reference relative to SB-185 is for procedures regarding inspection and r epair. > > ADs, especially this one, are really poorly written. > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.