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1. 03:21 AM - Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto (Brock Windsor)
2. 07:11 AM - Re: Cowling support pics (FLYaDIVE)
3. 09:56 AM - Re: Cowling support pics (Gary Vogt)
4. 10:41 AM - Re: Cowling support pics (Airport Bum)
5. 12:10 PM - Re: Cowling support pics (Gary Vogt)
6. 03:48 PM - Re: Cowling support pics (Dj Merrill)
7. 07:48 PM - Re: Cowling support pics (allenc3@bellsouth.net)
8. 08:10 PM - Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto (Gary Vogt)
9. 08:18 PM - Re: Cowling support pics (Gary Vogt)
10. 08:38 PM - Re: Cowling support pics (Airport Bum)
11. 09:07 PM - Re: Cowling support pics (Gary Vogt)
12. 09:22 PM - Re: Cowling support pics (Dj Merrill)
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto |
Is that your IO-360B1A with a CS prop?- What about adding a Turbo Normali
zer?
--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
Be patient. -I'm working on an STC for an IO360 into a Tiger that is 1/5
as much work as what has previously been done. -
From: Jim Fudge <n26780@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a cheetah?
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From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman
-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
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It isn't difficult. -It just doesn't make any sense. -You don't need to
carry around the extra weight. -If it were me doing the conversion (IO36
0 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight. -Unless you c
arry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don't make sense.
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Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd need to wo
rry about is burning off the excess fuel before your insurance company inve
stigates the crash. -The Traveler/Cheetah spar is strong enough to handle
anything you'd care to try to do with it.
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From: Andrew Kuzyk <andrew@entro.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?
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On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:57 AM, flyv35b wrote:
All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life a
s Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to
2400lb.
Cliff
On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Yup!
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It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A
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-* Year:1979
-* Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
-* Model:AA5B Tiger
-* Price:$60,000.00
-* Location:N/A
-* Condition:Used
-* Serial Number:AA5A0555
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley@comcast.net
<mailto:cloudvalley@comcast.net>> wrote:
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---Registration shows it so be an AA5A.
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---Brian
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---<flyv35b@minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>
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---Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite
a few
---years ago to someone in CA. -Was based up at Columbia (I think)
for
---some
---time. -If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Car
dinal.
---Anyone know what the N-number is?
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
And NEVER WILL!
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Some of us don't do facebook.
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> Kevin
>
> Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >I put pics of the cowling support I use on the Jaguar cowling on the
> AuCountry Aviation Facebook page.
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
So, cut off your nose to spite your face. -Do what you want. -=0A=0AI t
ried posting the pics on TeamGrumman-List. -It got bumped twice because I
sent too many pictures. -=0A=0AThe AuCountry Aviation Facebook page is a
n easy place to put a lot of pictures. -Also, if you want to discuss some
thing, everyone can comment. -It isn't any different than Grumman Gang or
TeamGrumman-list . . . -except that I can add hundreds of pictures.=0A
=0AAll you have to do is like the page and it will post to your page.=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 17, 2011
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EVER WILL!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Airport Bum <aa5_
rt Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com>=0A>=0A>Some of us don't do facebook.=0A>=0A>K
evin=0A>=0A>=0A>Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>>I put pics
of the cowling support I use on the Jaguar cowling on the AuCountry Aviati
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
Why have a website or email list when there is facebook? Can't you post the photos
to your website? If not why have it?
I bet your wbsite does not pose as much of a security risk as facebook does.
Kevin
Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>So, cut off your nose to spite your face. Do what you want.
>
>I tried posting the pics on TeamGrumman-List. It got bumped twice because I sent
too many pictures.
>
>The AuCountry Aviation Facebook page is an easy place to put a lot of pictures.
Also, if you want to discuss something, everyone can comment. It isn't any different
than Grumman Gang or TeamGrumman-list . . . except that I can add hundreds
of pictures.
>
>All you have to do is like the page and it will post to your page.
>
>
>________________________________
>From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:08 AM
>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling support pics
>
>
>And NEVER WILL!
>
>
>On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>>Some of us don't do facebook.
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>>Kevin
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>>Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>I put pics of the cowling support I use on the Jaguar cowling on the AuCountry
Aviation Facebook page.
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
I can post pics on Facebook in about 30 seconds. -=0A=0AIt takes consider
ably longer to create several web pages and their related links and then ti
e into all of the pages affected by those changes.=0A=0AThat's why.=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.c
om>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 17, 20
11 10:37 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling support pics=0A=0A-->
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=0AWhy have a website or email list when there is facebook?- Can't you po
st the photos to your website?- If not why have it?=0A=0AI bet your wbsit
e does not pose as much of a security risk as facebook does.=0A=0AKevin=0A
=0AGary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A>So, cut off your nose to
spite your face. -Do what you want. -=0A>=0A>I tried posting the pics o
n TeamGrumman-List. -It got bumped twice because I sent too many pictures
. -=0A>=0A>The AuCountry Aviation Facebook page is an easy place to put a
lot of pictures. -Also, if you want to discuss something, everyone can c
omment. -It isn't any different than Grumman Gang or TeamGrumman-list . .
. -except that I can add hundreds of pictures.=0A>=0A>All you have to do
is like the page and it will post to your page.=0A>=0A>=0A>_______________
_________________=0A>From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>=0A>To: teamgrumman
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t: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling support pics=0A>=0A>=0A>And NEVER WILL!=0A
>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Airport Bum <aa5_driver@y
<aa5_driver@yahoo.com>=0A>>=0A>>Some of us don't do facebook.=0A>>=0A>>Kev
in=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>>I put p
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
On 9/17/2011 3:07 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> I can post pics on Facebook in about 30 seconds.
>
>
Truly Gary, Facebook really sucks. I say that as someone who
actually does use it. From a business perspective, I would highly
encourage you to reconsider.
There are plenty of free software packages available that let you
manage a traditional website, and are just as easy to use as Facebook.
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
i agree
Claude Allen
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So, cut off your nose to spite your face. Do what you want.
>
> I tried posting the pics on TeamGrumman-List. It got bumped twice because
I sent too many pictures.
>
> The AuCountry Aviation Facebook page is an easy place to put a lot of pict
ures. Also, if you want to discuss something, everyone can comment. It isn
't any different than Grumman Gang or TeamGrumman-list . . . except that I c
an add hundreds of pictures.
>
> All you have to do is like the page and it will post to your page.
>
> From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:08 AM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling support pics
>
> And NEVER WILL!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Some of us don't do facebook.
>
> Kevin
>
> Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I put pics of the cowling support I use on the Jaguar cowling on the AuCo
untry Aviation Facebook page.
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto |
IO360B1G6. -=0A=0ABrock, I think a turbo-normalized Tiger would be awesom
e. Tell you what: -you donate your plane for 3 to 5 years, you buy the en
gine and turbo, you pay for the DER, and I'll do all the labor for free.
-All I ask is to be half owner of the STC.=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A____________
____________________=0AFrom: Brock Windsor <n2_narcosis@yahoo.com>=0ATo: te
amgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:19 AM
=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto=0A=0A
=0AIs that your IO-360B1A with a CS prop?- What about adding a Turbo Norm
alizer?=0A=0A--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
=0A=0A=0A>From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumm
an-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto=0A>To: "teamgrumman-list@matron
ics.com" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>=0A>Date: Saturday, September 17,
2011, 1:14 AM=0A>=0A>=0A>Be patient. -I'm working on an STC for an IO360
into a Tiger that is 1/5 as much work as what has previously been done. -
=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Jim Fudge <n2678
0@cox.net>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Friday, September
16, 2011 3:55 PM=0A>Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale i
n Palo Alto=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a c
heetah?=0A>-=0A>-=0A>-=0A>From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronic
s.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gar
y Vogt=0A>Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:58 PM=0A>To: teamgrumman-list
@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in P
alo Alto=0A>-=0A>It isn't difficult. -It just doesn't make any sense.
-You don't need to carry around the extra weight. -If it were me doing
the conversion (IO360 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross wei
ght. -Unless you carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don
't make sense.=0A>-=0A>Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the on
ly thing you'd need to worry about is burning off the excess fuel before yo
ur insurance company investigates the crash. -The Traveler/Cheetah spar i
s strong enough to handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.=0A>-
=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> =0A>From:Andrew Kuzyk <andrew@
entro.com>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Thursday, Septemb
er 15, 2011 11:10 AM=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sal
e in Palo Alto=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>How difficult would it be do a centre spar co
nversion on a Traveler?=0A>-=0A>-Andrew Kuzyk-BID, ACIDO,-RGD-//
-Partner=0A>=0A>-Entro Communications=0A>-122 Parliament St.=0A>-To
ronto, Canada M5A-2Y8=0A>=0A>-T:-416-368-6988 x 222=0A>-M: 416-706-
4490=0A>-F: 416-368-5616=0A>=0A>-www.entro.com=0A>-=0A>-=0A>On Sep
15, 2011, at 11:57 AM, flyv35b wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>--> TeamGrumman-List m
essage posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>=0A>=0A>All of the planes
converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life as Cheetahs and ha
d the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to 2400lb.=0A>=0A>Cl
iff=0A>=0A>On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>Yup!=0A>-=0A>
It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..=0A>The S/N:
tell you AA5-A=0A>-=0A>-* Year:1979=0A>-* Manufacturer:Grumman/Ameri
can General=0A>-* Model:AA5B Tiger=0A>-* Price:$60,000.00=0A>-* Locat
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=0A>On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley@comcast.net=0A><mailto:c
loudvalley@comcast.net>> wrote:=0A>-=0A>---Registration shows it so
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reuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few=0A>---years ago to someone
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
With all my free time, I'll just jump on that right now.=0A=0AI think the T
empest spark plugs suck and people still use them. -I think the throttle
quadrant on the AG5B sucks and some people like them. -I think it sucks t
hat there was a crash at the Reno Air Races. -=0A=0ASeriously, I don't ca
re if AOL, Yahoo, Facebook, or whatever sucks. -I don't have time to crea
te the perfect web interface that everyone likes all the time. -=0A=0A"Yo
u can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all
of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time." -A. Linco
ln=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.n
et>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 17, 20
11 3:46 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling support pics=0A=0A=0AOn
9/17/2011 3:07 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: =0AI can post pics on Facebook in abou
t 30 seconds. -=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A--- Truly Gary, Facebook really su
cks.- I say that as someone who=0A actually does use it.- From a bus
iness perspective, I would highly=0A encourage you to reconsider.=0A=0A
--- There are plenty of free software packages available that let=0A
you manage a traditional website, and are just as easy to use as=0A F
acebook.=0A=0A-Dj=0A=0A=0A-- =0ADj Merrill - N1JOV=0ASportsman 2+2 Builder
#7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://dee
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
I agree that you cannot make everyone happy all the time
But, can you sell something marketed on facebook to those who don't use facebook?
When I need a product or service, I look for websites not on facebook.
I'm sure your choices work for you, but many do not use facebook and the like.
Just something to consider.
I vote with $$$ , not by liking something on facebook. I can assure you that if
it is only on facebook, it will never get my vote.
Kevin
Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>With all my free time, I'll just jump on that right now.
>
>I think the Tempest spark plugs suck and people still use them. I think the throttle
quadrant on the AG5B sucks and some people like them. I think it sucks
that there was a crash at the Reno Air Races.
>
>Seriously, I don't care if AOL, Yahoo, Facebook, or whatever sucks. I don't have
time to create the perfect web interface that everyone likes all the time.
>
>"You can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all
of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time." A. Lincoln
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:46 PM
>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling support pics
>
>
>On 9/17/2011 3:07 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>I can post pics on Facebook in about 30 seconds.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Truly Gary, Facebook really sucks. I say that as someone who
> actually does use it. From a business perspective, I would highly
> encourage you to reconsider.
>
> There are plenty of free software packages available that let
> you manage a traditional website, and are just as easy to use as
> Facebook.
>
>-Dj
>
>
>--
>Dj Merrill - N1JOV
>Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://dee=====================
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
I wasn't aware I was using Facebook for marketing. -I thought-I was usi
ng the AuCountry Aviation-Facebook-page to post pictures with descripti
ons that may help someone solve a problem. -=0AThanks for the update. -
=0A=0AQuestion: -Other than buying things from Gene Palzak or LoPresti (w
ho shamelessly hock their wares on GG), does anyone else go to GG to find s
omething to buy????? -Or, if you're they're looking for something, do the
y just go to the websites of the product they want?=0A=0AFWIW, Posting pict
ures on Facebook has absolutely nothing to do with my website. -=0A=0A=0A
________________________________=0AFrom: Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 17, 2011
8:33 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling support pics=0A=0A--> Team
Grumman-List message posted by: Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com>=0A=0AI a
gree that you cannot make everyone happy all the time=0A=0ABut, can you sel
l something marketed on facebook to those who don't use facebook?=0A=0AWhen
I need a product or service, I look for websites not on facebook.=0A=0AI'm
sure your choices work for you, but many do not use facebook and the like.
- Just something to consider.- =0A=0AI vote with $$$ , not by liking so
mething on facebook.- I can assure you that if it is only on facebook, it
will never get my vote.=0A=0AKevin=0A=0AGary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
wrote:=0A=0A>With all my free time, I'll just jump on that right now.=0A>
=0A>I think the Tempest spark plugs suck and people still use them. -I th
ink the throttle quadrant on the AG5B sucks and some people like them. -I
think it sucks that there was a crash at the Reno Air Races. -=0A>=0A>Se
riously, I don't care if AOL, Yahoo, Facebook, or whatever sucks. -I don'
t have time to create the perfect web interface that everyone likes all the
time. -=0A>=0A>"You can please all of the people some of the time and so
me of the people all of the time, but you can't please all the people all t
he time." -A. Lincoln=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>From
: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent:
Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:46 PM=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cow
ling support pics=0A>=0A>=0A>On 9/17/2011 3:07 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: =0A>I c
an post pics on Facebook in about 30 seconds. -=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>-
-- Truly Gary, Facebook really sucks.- I say that as someone who=0A>
- - actually does use it.- From a business perspective, I would highl
y=0A>- - encourage you to reconsider.=0A>=0A>--- There are plenty
of free software packages available that let=0A>- - you manage a tradi
tional website, and are just as easy to use as=0A>- - Facebook.=0A>=0A>
-Dj=0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A>Dj Merrill - N1JOV=0A>Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N42
1DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://dee===
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling support pics |
On 9/18/2011 12:04 AM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>
> FWIW, Posting pictures on Facebook has absolutely nothing to do with
> my website.
>
Ah, that was the critical piece. From your previous posts it
appeared as if you were moving away from a traditional website and
replacing it with Facebook for your business.
A lot of people, and it seems even especially so for (ahem) more
"experienced" folk, aren't into Facebook, and won't go through the
trouble of creating an account to use it. I hate to mention it, but
most of us pilots fall into that "experienced" category... :-)
No worries! :-)
-Dj
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