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Sat 10/08/11


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 03:16 AM - Re: Found this on the Internet  (Bert Gilling)
     2. 08:57 AM - Re: Found this on the Internet (Bob Hodo)
     3. 01:28 PM - EFB parts (James Courtney)
     4. 02:31 PM - Re: EFB parts (Airport Bum)
     5. 08:25 PM - Re: Found this on the Internet (n32romeo@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


Message 1


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    Time: 03:16:35 AM PST US
    From: Bert Gilling <Grumman932TE@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Found this on the Internet
    Gene Whitt, an instructor of mine, taught this to his students and documented it on his web site (copied below), at http://www.whittsflying.com/web/page5.61Cessna_150.htm#Trim%20and%20the%20 C-150 "Side Notes: Pilots do not usually have the best-glide numbers available. A short cut is just to trim the aircraft full nose-up without flaps..." It is true for some other Cessna models as well, but you may wish to try it in your model before you need to rely on it. On Oct 7, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > My good friend (who happens to regularly loiter on this forum) recently told me that Cessna designed their planes such that if you have an engine failure, you can dial-in the maximum back elevator trim and the plane will automatically be set-up For best glide speed. > > Today, while flying a Cessna 152 at about 10,000 feet, I decided to give it a try and see what my results would be. I pulled power back to idle, dialed the trim wheel all the way down, and guess what happened? The plane settled into a very nice glide at exactly 60 KIAS (best glide for the 152). > > As a recently certificated pilot, I'm surprised this little "nugget of knowledge" was never mentioned during my training. Was this mentioned during anyone else's training? Is this true for all Cessna models and/or other aircraft? > > =========== > comments? > =========== > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > ===D======= >


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    Time: 08:57:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Found this on the Internet
    From: Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com>
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    Time: 01:28:50 PM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: EFB parts
    I've got a Ram mount/cradle for a Samsung Q1 Ultra Premium and a 12V power supply for the same which also supplies power to an XM receiver and Bluetooth GPS. The specs for the power supply are the following: Input: 6A/14V or 3A/28V Output: 19.5V for Samsung tablet, 9.5V for XM, 5.5V for GPS. Cables provided for the modern XM (rectangular black) receiver. Need to find the cable (mini USB) for the GPS. If anyone can use either of these items let me know. Just pay the shipping. Best, Jamey


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    Time: 02:31:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EFB parts
    From: Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
    I think I can use it Kevin James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: >I've got a Ram mount/cradle for a Samsung Q1 Ultra Premium and a 12V power >supply for the same which also supplies power to an XM receiver and >Bluetooth GPS. The specs for the power supply are the following: > > > >Input: 6A/14V or 3A/28V > >Output: 19.5V for Samsung tablet, 9.5V for XM, 5.5V for GPS. Cables >provided for the modern XM (rectangular black) receiver. Need to find the >cable (mini USB) for the GPS. > > > >If anyone can use either of these items let me know. Just pay the shipping. > > > >Best, > > > >Jamey > > > > >


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    Time: 08:25:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Found this on the Internet
    From: n32romeo@AOL.COM
    Hmm, I'll have to give this a try in my C-182. I learned to fly in C-150's in the 70's by what I considered to be knowlegable old-timers, and flew mo st of the Cessna single line from C-120s to C-206's, but don't think I have ever heard this. And thinking about it, this might be easy to achieve in a C-150, as the CG range is rather narrow with only 1 row of seats, but wou ld not work the same in a C-172 or larger as the CG range is so much wider. My "P" model 182 has a very wide CG range. Rich Harrison AA-1B N1632Romeo C-182 N52992 Dog is my Co-Pilot -----Original Message----- From: Bob Hodo <bob.hodo@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 8, 2011 8:57 am Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Found this on the Internet The 172 I did my instrument training in would land itself if you maintained this setting through ground effect to touchdown. Smoothest landings I ever achieved. Gary L Vogt &lt;teamgrumman@yahoo.com&gt; wrote: My good friend (who happens to regularly loiter on this forum) recently tol d me that Cessna designed their planes such that if you have an engine fail ure, you can dial-in the maximum back elevator trim and the plane will auto matically be set-up for best glide speed. Today, while flying a Cessna 152 at about 10,000 feet, I decided to give it a try and see what my results would be. I pulled power back to idle, dial ed the trim wheel all the way down, and guess what happened? The plane set tled into a very nice glide at exactly 60 KIAS (best glide for the 152). As a recently certificated pilot, I'm surprised this little "nugget of know ledge" was never mentioned during my training. Was this mentioned during a nyone else's training? Is this true for all Cessna models and/or other air craft? =========== comments? =========== Gary Sent from my iPad -= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD% =EF=BD=EF=BDM4=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDx=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD =EF=BDw=EF=BDr=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD




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