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1. 04:57 AM - Re: Competitive Products (Airport Bum)
2. 06:09 AM - Re: Competitive Products (arjays@AOL.COM)
3. 06:42 AM - Re: Competitive Products (Airport Bum)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: Competitive Products (Airport Bum)
5. 10:15 AM - Re: Competitive Products (ArjayS@AOL.COM)
6. 10:36 AM - Re: Is this the right stuff ?? colwing cushion seal (FLYaDIVE)
7. 10:59 AM - Re: Is this the right stuff ?? colwing cushion seal (923te)
8. 12:52 PM - Re: Is this the right stuff ?? colwing cushion seal (FLYaDIVE)
9. 04:05 PM - Re: Is this the right stuff ?? colwing cushion seal (923te)
10. 08:44 PM - Aircraft appraisal (Gary Vogt)
11. 08:57 PM - Re: Aircraft appraisal (Doug Doty)
12. 09:52 PM - Re: Aircraft appraisal (James Courtney)
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Arjay.
I guess I. Don't understand how you can say that your products are so great and
the customers are all so happy with the product and services.
Further, you state that you can ill afford to lose any of them, but your company
and David lopresti specifically will not return a phone calls or emails as he
said he would after being notified of a manufacturing problem.
In fact this problem has been brought up before and all that lopresti does is try
to turn it into a profit opportunity instead of doing the right thing (fixing
the problem for those affected) and actually producing the "high quality" parts
they continually market with much hype and hooplah.
If you cannot tell yet, I'm not happy with lopresti's attitude, customer service,
and lack of responsiveness to problems with their overpriced products. When
I ask others about the problem I have been told that I should contact lopresti,
well I have and have been treated poorly. I don't think Roy would be too
happy with the so called customer service lopresti offers today.
Kevin
arjays@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>Sigh!
>I'm pretty laid back when it comes to competitive products. I think
>ultimately the marketplace comes to the truth by itself with no help
>needed from pundits. If a product really does not work or has fit
>problems or teething issues, you will hear about it. A LOT! (Most
>aircraft owners are not shy about sharing their personal
>dissatisfaction). I also pretty much discount second hand data. Unless
>you were there, I don't want to hear the story second hand. So, for my
>part I am very happy at the way our customers applaud our products and
>about the feedback we get.
>
>Now as to Gary's cowl, I really like it. Make no mistake, I think he's
>done very nice work. He spent a over a decade with this design. I mean,
>think about giving TEN years of your life to a project. It takes
>passion and dedication. But our cowl products are very different. Roy
>LoPresti was the genius behind the Tiger and Cheetah to begin with.
>When he went back to improve it, he was very sensitive to what could be
>done with the maximum result keeping an eye on cost and engine life. He
>designed a full cowl vey similar to Gary's and in fact the Mooney cowl
>we sell has all those features. However, Roy decided to take the 80/20
>rule to heart and get 80% of the bang for less complexity time and
>money. Thus the nose bowl he designed was a 80% solution. Personally, I
>like the solution but I must admit I went back to his complete design
>with an eye on bringing it to market a few years ago. Gary was finally
>completing his and I decided it was a nice way to offer the customer
>two options. We usually sell our nosebowl ten sets at a time so I think
>that means we're doing our part.
>
>This is a very small industry and we Grumman guys are an even smaller
>part of that. In fact, there are only a few hundred really active
>Grumman drivers and we can ill afford to lose any of them. This goes
>double for parts suppliers and product developers. It's far better to
>keep your competition healthy because when you only have only one
>choice in any market, it means you have no choice and that is always a
>death signal for a market. So, I support Gary (even if he does not like
>our products) because competition adjusts prices, improves design and
>keeps the market healthy.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Rj Siegel CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Competitive Products |
Well Kevin
If you feel you have been treated very badly by our company, then i'm
the person to speak with. I will be happy to address any issues you
have, As for David not being responsive, his wife Ann has stage four
cancer and he spends the better part of every day caring for her.
Rj
-----Original Message-----
From: Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 6:57 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Competitive Products
<aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
Arjay.
I guess I. Don't understand how you can say that your products are so
great and the customers are all so happy with the product and services.
Further, you state that you can ill afford to lose any of them, but
your company and David lopresti specifically will not return a phone
calls or emails as he said he would after being notified of a
manufacturing problem.
In fact this problem has been brought up before and all that lopresti
does is try to turn it into a profit opportunity instead of doing the
right thing (fixing the problem for those affected) and actually
producing the "high quality" parts they continually market with much
hype and hooplah.
If you cannot tell yet, I'm not happy with lopresti's attitude,
customer service, and lack of responsiveness to problems with their
overpriced products. When I ask others about the problem I have been
told that I should contact lopresti, well I have and have been treated
poorly. I don't think Roy would be too happy with the so called
customer service lopresti offers today.
Kevin
arjays@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>Sigh!
>I'm pretty laid back when it comes to competitive products. I think
>ultimately the marketplace comes to the truth by itself with no help
>needed from pundits. If a product really does not work or has fit
>problems or teething issues, you will hear about it. A LOT! (Most
>aircraft owners are not shy about sharing their personal
>dissatisfaction). I also pretty much discount second hand data. Unless
>you were there, I don't want to hear the story second hand. So, for my
>part I am very happy at the way our customers applaud our products and
>about the feedback we get.
>
>Now as to Gary's cowl, I really like it. Make no mistake, I think he's
>done very nice work. He spent a over a decade with this design. I
mean,
>think about giving TEN years of your life to a project. It takes
>passion and dedication. But our cowl products are very different. Roy
>LoPresti was the genius behind the Tiger and Cheetah to begin with.
>When he went back to improve it, he was very sensitive to what could
be
>done with the maximum result keeping an eye on cost and engine life.
He
>designed a full cowl vey similar to Gary's and in fact the Mooney cowl
>we sell has all those features. However, Roy decided to take the 80/20
>rule to heart and get 80% of the bang for less complexity time and
>money. Thus the nose bowl he designed was a 80% solution. Personally,
I
>like the solution but I must admit I went back to his complete design
>with an eye on bringing it to market a few years ago. Gary was finally
>completing his and I decided it was a nice way to offer the customer
>two options. We usually sell our nosebowl ten sets at a time so I
think
>that means we're doing our part.
>
>This is a very small industry and we Grumman guys are an even smaller
>part of that. In fact, there are only a few hundred really active
>Grumman drivers and we can ill afford to lose any of them. This goes
>double for parts suppliers and product developers. It's far better to
>keep your competition healthy because when you only have only one
>choice in any market, it means you have no choice and that is always a
>death signal for a market. So, I support Gary (even if he does not
like
>our products) because competition adjusts prices, improves design and
>keeps the market healthy.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Rj Siegel CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Competitive Products |
Well then, I'll forward you the info I. Spoke to David about when I get home.
I can appreciate. The time needed and the dedication to family. If only he had
communicated the situation there could have been some understanding. Being ignored
for whatever reason isn't helpful for anyone. Certainly, I wish David
ane his wife the best. Stage 4 is very serious. I'm. Familliar with all it entails.
Will be in touch about the landing light cover issues soon.
I appreciate the reply.
Kevin
arjays@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>Well Kevin
>If you feel you have been treated very badly by our company, then i'm
>the person to speak with. I will be happy to address any issues you
>have, As for David not being responsive, his wife Ann has stage four
>cancer and he spends the better part of every day caring for her.
>Rj
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
>To: teamgrumman-list <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 6:57 am
>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Competitive Products
>
><aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
>
>Arjay.
>
>I guess I. Don't understand how you can say that your products are so
>great and the customers are all so happy with the product and services.
>
>
>Further, you state that you can ill afford to lose any of them, but
>your company and David lopresti specifically will not return a phone
>calls or emails as he said he would after being notified of a
>manufacturing problem.
>
>In fact this problem has been brought up before and all that lopresti
>does is try to turn it into a profit opportunity instead of doing the
>right thing (fixing the problem for those affected) and actually
>producing the "high quality" parts they continually market with much
>hype and hooplah.
>
>If you cannot tell yet, I'm not happy with lopresti's attitude,
>customer service, and lack of responsiveness to problems with their
>overpriced products. When I ask others about the problem I have been
>told that I should contact lopresti, well I have and have been treated
>poorly. I don't think Roy would be too happy with the so called
>customer service lopresti offers today.
>
>Kevin
>
>arjays@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>>
>>Sigh!
>>I'm pretty laid back when it comes to competitive products. I think
>>ultimately the marketplace comes to the truth by itself with no help
>>needed from pundits. If a product really does not work or has fit
>>problems or teething issues, you will hear about it. A LOT! (Most
>>aircraft owners are not shy about sharing their personal
>>dissatisfaction). I also pretty much discount second hand data. Unless
>>you were there, I don't want to hear the story second hand. So, for my
>>part I am very happy at the way our customers applaud our products and
>>about the feedback we get.
>>
>>Now as to Gary's cowl, I really like it. Make no mistake, I think he's
>>done very nice work. He spent a over a decade with this design. I
>mean,
>>think about giving TEN years of your life to a project. It takes
>>passion and dedication. But our cowl products are very different. Roy
>>LoPresti was the genius behind the Tiger and Cheetah to begin with.
>>When he went back to improve it, he was very sensitive to what could
>be
>>done with the maximum result keeping an eye on cost and engine life.
>He
>>designed a full cowl vey similar to Gary's and in fact the Mooney cowl
>>we sell has all those features. However, Roy decided to take the 80/20
>>rule to heart and get 80% of the bang for less complexity time and
>>money. Thus the nose bowl he designed was a 80% solution. Personally,
>I
>>like the solution but I must admit I went back to his complete design
>>with an eye on bringing it to market a few years ago. Gary was finally
>>completing his and I decided it was a nice way to offer the customer
>>two options. We usually sell our nosebowl ten sets at a time so I
>think
>>that means we're doing our part.
>>
>>This is a very small industry and we Grumman guys are an even smaller
>>part of that. In fact, there are only a few hundred really active
>>Grumman drivers and we can ill afford to lose any of them. This goes
>>double for parts suppliers and product developers. It's far better to
>>keep your competition healthy because when you only have only one
>>choice in any market, it means you have no choice and that is always a
>>death signal for a market. So, I support Gary (even if he does not
>like
>>our products) because competition adjusts prices, improves design and
>>keeps the market healthy.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Rj Siegel CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Competitive Products |
I guess I also need a phone number to contact you by phone.
Kevin
arjays@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>Well Kevin
>If you feel you have been treated very badly by our company, then i'm
>the person to speak with. I will be happy to address any issues you
>have, As for David not being responsive, his wife Ann has stage four
>cancer and he spends the better part of every day caring for her.
>Rj
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Airport Bum <aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
>To: teamgrumman-list <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 6:57 am
>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Competitive Products
>
><aa5_driver@yahoo.com>
>
>Arjay.
>
>I guess I. Don't understand how you can say that your products are so
>great and the customers are all so happy with the product and services.
>
>
>Further, you state that you can ill afford to lose any of them, but
>your company and David lopresti specifically will not return a phone
>calls or emails as he said he would after being notified of a
>manufacturing problem.
>
>In fact this problem has been brought up before and all that lopresti
>does is try to turn it into a profit opportunity instead of doing the
>right thing (fixing the problem for those affected) and actually
>producing the "high quality" parts they continually market with much
>hype and hooplah.
>
>If you cannot tell yet, I'm not happy with lopresti's attitude,
>customer service, and lack of responsiveness to problems with their
>overpriced products. When I ask others about the problem I have been
>told that I should contact lopresti, well I have and have been treated
>poorly. I don't think Roy would be too happy with the so called
>customer service lopresti offers today.
>
>Kevin
>
>arjays@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>>
>>Sigh!
>>I'm pretty laid back when it comes to competitive products. I think
>>ultimately the marketplace comes to the truth by itself with no help
>>needed from pundits. If a product really does not work or has fit
>>problems or teething issues, you will hear about it. A LOT! (Most
>>aircraft owners are not shy about sharing their personal
>>dissatisfaction). I also pretty much discount second hand data. Unless
>>you were there, I don't want to hear the story second hand. So, for my
>>part I am very happy at the way our customers applaud our products and
>>about the feedback we get.
>>
>>Now as to Gary's cowl, I really like it. Make no mistake, I think he's
>>done very nice work. He spent a over a decade with this design. I
>mean,
>>think about giving TEN years of your life to a project. It takes
>>passion and dedication. But our cowl products are very different. Roy
>>LoPresti was the genius behind the Tiger and Cheetah to begin with.
>>When he went back to improve it, he was very sensitive to what could
>be
>>done with the maximum result keeping an eye on cost and engine life.
>He
>>designed a full cowl vey similar to Gary's and in fact the Mooney cowl
>>we sell has all those features. However, Roy decided to take the 80/20
>>rule to heart and get 80% of the bang for less complexity time and
>>money. Thus the nose bowl he designed was a 80% solution. Personally,
>I
>>like the solution but I must admit I went back to his complete design
>>with an eye on bringing it to market a few years ago. Gary was finally
>>completing his and I decided it was a nice way to offer the customer
>>two options. We usually sell our nosebowl ten sets at a time so I
>think
>>that means we're doing our part.
>>
>>This is a very small industry and we Grumman guys are an even smaller
>>part of that. In fact, there are only a few hundred really active
>>Grumman drivers and we can ill afford to lose any of them. This goes
>>double for parts suppliers and product developers. It's far better to
>>keep your competition healthy because when you only have only one
>>choice in any market, it means you have no choice and that is always a
>>death signal for a market. So, I support Gary (even if he does not
>like
>>our products) because competition adjusts prices, improves design and
>>keeps the market healthy.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Rj Siegel CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Hi Kevin
My cell is 414-793-6676 but it would be better to set a day and time
Cheers!
Rj
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| Subject: | Re: Is this the right stuff ?? colwing cushion seal |
Cliff & Team:
A while back this was discussed and the feeling as well as mine was: Do
not use Teflon tape. It has low friction and will allow the parts to
slide. This sliding will just move the ware point to more difficult areas
to maintain such as hinge lines and latches. The preferred method would be
to use something like Weather Stripping where it would eliminate vibration,
sliding and even improve the air tight seal of the cowl. I have done this
years ago and have no issues with either the install (Peel & Stick) or
vibration.
It works, it's cheap and is available at your LOWE'S Aircraft Supply.
Barry
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:56 PM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/30/2011 11:20 AM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>
>> It's called chafe tape. I doubt the plane came with any. I don't use any
>> on my fiberglass cowling. On the new cowlings, ones being sold now, the
>> joggle in the front is low enough to add the tape.
>>
>> You can get some from Aircraft Spruce and install it. It will only look
>> good immediately after you install it.
>>
>
> A far better product that is sold by Spruce is Teflon coated fiberglass
> anti-chafe tape. Comes in 5 and 10 mil thickness. I have used to on my
> Bonanza cowl doors and on Grumman cowlings. It is very slick, thin and
> wears very well, but much more expensive than the chafe seal you mentioned.
>
> Cliff
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is this the right stuff ?? colwing cushion seal |
Hi Barry
I am getting ready to do this right now on my new cowl. Is the
Weather strip you are talking about made of felt, rubber, or? Is it flat, P-
Seal or? How thick?
Thanks
Ned
On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:31 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cliff & Team:
>
> A while back this was discussed and the feeling as well as mine was: Do n
ot use Teflon tape. It has low friction and will allow the parts to slide.
This sliding will just move the ware point to more difficult areas to maint
ain such as hinge lines and latches. The preferred method would be to use s
omething like Weather Stripping where it would eliminate vibration, sliding a
nd even improve the air tight seal of the cowl. I have done this years ago a
nd have no issues with either the install (Peel & Stick) or vibration.
> It works, it's cheap and is available at your LOWE'S Aircraft Supply.
>
> Barry
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:56 PM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/30/2011 11:20 AM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> It's called chafe tape. I doubt the plane came with any. I don't use any
> on my fiberglass cowling. On the new cowlings, ones being sold now, the
> joggle in the front is low enough to add the tape.
>
> You can get some from Aircraft Spruce and install it. It will only look
> good immediately after you install it.
>
> A far better product that is sold by Spruce is Teflon coated fiberglass an
ti-chafe tape. Comes in 5 and 10 mil thickness. I have used to on my Bonan
za cowl doors and on Grumman cowlings. It is very slick, thin and wears ver
y well, but much more expensive than the chafe seal you mentioned.
>
> Cliff
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| Subject: | Re: Is this the right stuff ?? colwing cushion seal |
Ned:
The seal I used was the thinnest I could find.
It was about 1/16 or 3/32" thick.
You could easily go to 1/8" thick.
Width about 1/2".
Wider would also work - Just cut the over hanging material off.
Came in a 10 foot roll.
The color is Gray.
It compresses very well so there is NO distortion to the cowl. Material is
some form of Rubber.
Barry
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:55 PM, 923te <923te@att.net> wrote:
> Hi Barry
> I am getting ready to do this right now on my new cowl. Is the
> Weather strip you are talking about made of felt, rubber, or? Is it flat,
> P-Seal or? How thick?
>
> Thanks
> Ned
>
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:31 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cliff & Team:
>
> A while back this was discussed and the feeling as well as mine was: Do
> not use Teflon tape. It has low friction and will allow the parts to
> slide. This sliding will just move the ware point to more difficult areas
> to maintain such as hinge lines and latches. The preferred method would be
> to use something like Weather Stripping where it would eliminate vibration,
> sliding and even improve the air tight seal of the cowl. I have done this
> years ago and have no issues with either the install (Peel & Stick) or
> vibration.
> It works, it's cheap and is available at your LOWE'S Aircraft Supply.
>
> Barry
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:56 PM, flyv35b < <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
> flyv35b@minetfiber.com> wrote:
>
>> flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
>>
>>
>> On 10/30/2011 11:20 AM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>>
>>> It's called chafe tape. I doubt the plane came with any. I don't use any
>>> on my fiberglass cowling. On the new cowlings, ones being sold now, the
>>> joggle in the front is low enough to add the tape.
>>>
>>> You can get some from Aircraft Spruce and install it. It will only look
>>> good immediately after you install it.
>>>
>>
>> A far better product that is sold by Spruce is Teflon coated fiberglass
>> anti-chafe tape. Comes in 5 and 10 mil thickness. I have used to on my
>> Bonanza cowl doors and on Grumman cowlings. It is very slick, thin and
>> wears very well, but much more expensive than the chafe seal you mentioned.
>>
>> Cliff
>>
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Thanks Barry
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:49 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ned:
>
> The seal I used was the thinnest I could find.
> It was about 1/16 or 3/32" thick.
> You could easily go to 1/8" thick.
> Width about 1/2".
> Wider would also work - Just cut the over hanging material off.
> Came in a 10 foot roll.
> The color is Gray.
> It compresses very well so there is NO distortion to the cowl. Material i
s some form of Rubber.
>
> Barry
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:55 PM, 923te <923te@att.net> wrote:
> Hi Barry
> I am getting ready to do this right now on my new cowl. Is the
> Weather strip you are talking about made of felt, rubber, or? Is it flat, P
-Seal or? How thick?
>
> Thanks
> Ned
>
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:31 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cliff & Team:
>>
>> A while back this was discussed and the feeling as well as mine was: Do n
ot use Teflon tape. It has low friction and will allow the parts to slide.
This sliding will just move the ware point to more difficult areas to maint
ain such as hinge lines and latches. The preferred method would be to use s
omething like Weather Stripping where it would eliminate vibration, sliding a
nd even improve the air tight seal of the cowl. I have done this years ago a
nd have no issues with either the install (Peel & Stick) or vibration.
>> It works, it's cheap and is available at your LOWE'S Aircraft Supply.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:56 PM, flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com> wrote:
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>> On 10/30/2011 11:20 AM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>> It's called chafe tape. I doubt the plane came with any. I don't use any
>> on my fiberglass cowling. On the new cowlings, ones being sold now, the
>> joggle in the front is low enough to add the tape.
>>
>> You can get some from Aircraft Spruce and install it. It will only look
>> good immediately after you install it.
>>
>> A far better product that is sold by Spruce is Teflon coated fiberglass a
nti-chafe tape. Comes in 5 and 10 mil thickness. I have used to on my Bona
nza cowl doors and on Grumman cowlings. It is very slick, thin and wears ve
ry well, but much more expensive than the chafe seal you mentioned.
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>> Cliff
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where can I get an aircraft appraisal? -I want it free if possible.
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>From a cost standpoint you can go to AOPA and go through the owners section and
aircraft valuations. If you are speaking of a prebuy inspection it won't be
free but well worth the money you spend in most cases. If you do not belong to
AOPA and it does not let you run an valuation, e-mail me and I will do it for
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$53k - worth what you paid for it;)
Happy Halloween everyone.
Jamey
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where can I get an aircraft appraisal? I want it free if possible.
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