---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/03/11: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:13 AM - Please Support The Lists... (Matt Dralle) 1. 04:59 AM - Re: Maintenance and Parts Manuals (grumpyparts) 2. 05:03 PM - Plugs leading up worse than normal (Doug Doty) 3. 06:19 PM - Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal (Andy) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:46 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Please Support The Lists... Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:14 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Maintenance and Parts Manuals From: "grumpyparts" Not that it would affect Gary, because he always carries out the inspection called out in SAIB CE-04-34, but for the rest of you a 27 year old MM is not the current revision. Latest Revision is 5 dated March 1, 2004 issued by Tiger Aircraft. Revision 5 includes the inspection of the Stabilizer Spar Carry-Through covered in the SAIB. I assume that because this did not result in a SB, unlike SB192 for the Traveler, Tiger Aircraft amended the MM instead. Anyone wanting a Rev 5 supplement to update their MM should contact Garner in the first instance. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356800#356800 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:33 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Plugs leading up worse than normal From: "Doug Doty" <39marinette@gmail.com> Seems like in the last 60 to 90 days everyone at our airport is having plugs lead and or at least load up much much worse than ever before. With having recently bought my tiger I have noticed that it also needs leaned aggressively on the ground to run clean and it's best and during ground operation mag checks. Has anyone else noticed anything similar in their area. We generally feel that we are dealing with a bad load of fuel at our airport. My plane has in the last 50 hours had the carb replaced with a reman unit and runs perfectly otherwise. Part 2.. Having a fuel flow totalizer for the first time makes me wonder if anyone knows from memory what kind of flow #'s they might generally see at say, taxing rpm, runup, idle and climb out. Would be fun to compare readings here. The turbine seems to me to be accurate to within maybe as good a 1-2 tenths of a gallon on 40 gallon fill ups so it would seem to be relative to compare readings with one another. I am guilty of not knowing my own answers to these same questions but will re-post as soon as the weather breaks and I get into the air again. I am thinking I saw 16 gallons on climb out right after liftoff but will accurize my numbers asap following my next flight. I do not have my POH at home but does anyone know the full power climb out fuel burn expectation for the 0-360 Idle: .9 to 1 gallon Taxi: Run up: Climb out:16 gallon -------- Boats and Planes Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356851#356851 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:36 PM PST US From: "Andy" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Plugs leading up worse than normal I can only provide a number for cruise but 16 GPH sounds reasonable for climbout..... Time after time on four hour flights to and from my home and Chicago at 7/8/9 T, I saw 132 knots TAS and 9.2 GPH....exactly what the charts predicted.... maybe one knot more or one tenth GPH on some days but 132/9.2 was set in stone and confirmed on many flights !!! Andy Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Doty" <39marinette@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 7:00 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Plugs leading up worse than normal > <39marinette@gmail.com> > > Seems like in the last 60 to 90 days everyone at our airport is having > plugs lead and or at least load up much much worse than ever before. With > having recently bought my tiger I have noticed that it also needs leaned > aggressively on the ground to run clean and it's best and during ground > operation mag checks. Has anyone else noticed anything similar in their > area. We generally feel that we are dealing with a bad load of fuel at our > airport. My plane has in the last 50 hours had the carb replaced with a > reman unit and runs perfectly otherwise. > > Part 2.. Having a fuel flow totalizer for the first time makes me wonder > if anyone knows from memory what kind of flow #'s they might generally see > at say, taxing rpm, runup, idle and climb out. Would be fun to compare > readings here. The turbine seems to me to be accurate to within maybe as > good a 1-2 tenths of a gallon on 40 gallon fill ups so it would seem to be > relative to compare readings with one another. I am guilty of not knowing > my own answers to these same questions but will re-post as soon as the > weather breaks and I get into the air again. > > I am thinking I saw 16 gallons on climb out right after liftoff but will > accurize my numbers asap following my next flight. I do not have my POH > at home but does anyone know the full power climb out fuel burn > expectation for the 0-360 > > Idle: .9 to 1 gallon > > Taxi: > > Run up: > > Climb out:16 gallon > > -------- > Boats and Planes > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356851#356851 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.