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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
Ive used fine wire plugs on my Tiger for at least 4 years. Never had a bad runup,
or any related plug fouling. I do run lean in the air and the ground.
They cost a (blank) load of money but I like the Ron Popeil way of "set it and
forget it" aspect of them.
On a related note. I have a Cessna 172 that is a flight club rental. Students,
trainers, and the like NEVER lean. I was having plug fouling issues at least
once every two weeks or so. Put fine wires in that and not any issues since.
In my estimate, they paid for themselves in a couple of months just in the
pain and aggravation factor of having to remove and clean plugs (along with the
lost revenue from the non-flights).
Changing back to the massive plugs, I believe the manufacturer matters as the plug
shape on one manufacturers plug affects removal. Cant recall it, but Gary
correct me if I'm wrong, that you preferred Champion.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357346#357346
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
Yes, I prefer the Champion plugs=0A=0AAt the 2010 Reno Air Races, I stopped
by the Tempest booth; they had some new plugs they were show casing. -I
picked up the plug and showed Clytie (My wife) that these are the old Autol
ite plugs. -Tempest bought the rights to make them and they still didn't
fix the plug length so a shorter long extension can be used. -I told her
this is one plug I would never buy under any circumstance. -One of the te
ch reps was listening; wanted to know why.=0A=0AI explained to him that to
reach the hex nut on the very bottom of the plug, I needed you use a longer
socket. -Problem is, the longer socket is difficult to use on plugs #3 &
#4. -He said, "Can't you can loosen the baffles and reach the plug?" -
I told him, "I'm sure there are hundred of work arounds to make something w
ork that wasn't designed correctly. -But, why not just install a part tha
t fits-in the first place-and doesn't need to be worked around?"=0A=0AS
ame goes for installing anything that blocks access to the plugs, e.g., MAP
tubing, EGT probes/wires, CHT wires, or Air/Oil separator hoses.=0A=0AI've
listened to and talked to hundreds of engineers, mechanics and pilots that
would never think twice to design or use something that needs to be 'worke
d around.' -A good example is the oil pressure line on an AG5B. -Read m
y "Dumb Design Decisions" on my web site.=0A=0A=0A_________________________
_______=0AFrom: lmassaro <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matr
onics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 6:10 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumma
n-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days=0A=0A--> TeamGrumman-List
message posted by: "lmassaro" <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>=0A=0AIve used fine wi
re plugs on my Tiger for at least 4 years.- Never had a bad runup, or any
related plug fouling.- I do run lean in the air and the ground.=0AThey c
ost a (blank) load of money but I like the Ron Popeil way of "set it and fo
rget it" aspect of them.=0A=0AOn a related note.- I have a Cessna 172 tha
t is a flight club rental.- Students, trainers, and the like NEVER lean.
- I was having plug fouling issues at least once every two weeks or so.
- Put fine wires in that and not any issues since.- In my estimate, the
y paid for themselves in a couple of months just in the pain and aggravatio
n factor of having to remove and clean plugs (along with the lost revenue f
rom the non-flights).=0A=0AChanging back to the massive plugs, I believe th
e manufacturer matters as the plug shape on one manufacturers plug affects
removal.- Cant recall it, but Gary correct me if I'm wrong, that you pref
erred Champion.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://foru
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
This seems very strange to me. I just installed a set of Tempest plugs in
our tiger with no problems accessing them.
In a message dated 11/9/2011 1:03:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
teamgrumman@yahoo.com writes:
Yes, I prefer the Champion plugs
At the 2010 Reno Air Races, I stopped by the Tempest booth; they had some
new plugs they were show casing. I picked up the plug and showed Clytie
(My wife) that these are the old Autolite plugs. Tempest bought the rights
to make them and they still didn't fix the plug length so a shorter long
extension can be used. I told her this is one plug I would never buy under
any circumstance. One of the tech reps was listening; wanted to know why.
I explained to him that to reach the hex nut on the very bottom of the
plug, I needed you use a longer socket. Problem is, the longer socket is
difficult to use on plugs #3 & #4. He said, "Can't you can loosen the baffles
and reach the plug?" I told him, "I'm sure there are hundred of work
arounds to make something work that wasn't designed correctly. But, why not just
install a part that fits in the first place and doesn't need to be worked
around?"
Same goes for installing anything that blocks access to the plugs, e.g.,
MAP tubing, EGT probes/wires, CHT wires, or Air/Oil separator hoses.
I've listened to and talked to hundreds of engineers, mechanics and pilots
that would never think twice to design or use something that needs to be
'worked around.' A good example is the oil pressure line on an AG5B. Read
my "Dumb Design Decisions" on my web site.
____________________________________
From: lmassaro <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 6:10 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "lmassaro" <_lmassaro@tac-eng.com_
(mailto:lmassaro@tac-eng.com) >
Ive used fine wire plugs on my Tiger for at least 4 years. Never had a
bad runup, or any related plug fouling. I do run lean in the air and the
ground.
They cost a (blank) load of money but I like the Ron Popeil way of "set it
and forget it" aspect of them.
On a related note. I have a Cessna 172 that is a flight club rental.
Students, trainers, and the like NEVER lean. I was having plug fouling issues
at least once every two weeks or so. Put fine wires in that and not any
issues since. In my estimate, they paid for themselves in a couple of
months just in the pain and aggravation factor of having to remove and clean
plugs (along with the lost revenue from the non-flights).
Changing back to the massive plugs, I believe the manufacturer matters as
the plug shape on one manufacturers plug affects removal. Cant recall it,
but Gary correct me if I'm wrong, that you preferred Champion.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357346#357346
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
I have them in my plane also without any access problems.
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days
This seems very strange to me. I just installed a set of Tempest plugs in
our tiger with no problems accessing them.
In a message dated 11/9/2011 1:03:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
teamgrumman@yahoo.com writes:
Yes, I prefer the Champion plugs
At the 2010 Reno Air Races, I stopped by the Tempest booth; they had some
new plugs they were show casing. I picked up the plug and showed Clytie (My
wife) that these are the old Autolite plugs. Tempest bought the rights to
make them and they still didn't fix the plug length so a shorter long
extension can be used. I told her this is one plug I would never buy under
any circumstance. One of the tech reps was listening; wanted to know why.
I explained to him that to reach the hex nut on the very bottom of the plug,
I needed you use a longer socket. Problem is, the longer socket is
difficult to use on plugs #3 & #4. He said, "Can't you can loosen the
baffles and reach the plug?" I told him, "I'm sure there are hundred of
work arounds to make something work that wasn't designed correctly. But,
why not just install a part that fits in the first place and doesn't need to
be worked around?"
Same goes for installing anything that blocks access to the plugs, e.g., MAP
tubing, EGT probes/wires, CHT wires, or Air/Oil separator hoses.
I've listened to and talked to hundreds of engineers, mechanics and pilots
that would never think twice to design or use something that needs to be
'worked around.' A good example is the oil pressure line on an AG5B. Read
my "Dumb Design Decisions" on my web site.
_____
From: lmassaro <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 6:10 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days
Ive used fine wire plugs on my Tiger for at least 4 years. Never had a bad
runup, or any related plug fouling. I do run lean in the air and the
ground.
They cost a (blank) load of money but I like the Ron Popeil way of "set it
and forget it" aspect of them.
On a related note. I have a Cessna 172 that is a flight club rental.
Students, trainers, and the like NEVER lean. I was having plug fouling
issues at least once every two weeks or so. Put fine wires in that and not
any issues since. In my estimate, they paid for themselves in a couple of
months just in the pain and aggravation factor of having to remove and clean
plugs (along with the lost revenue from the non-flights).
Changing back to the massive plugs, I believe the manufacturer matters as
the plug shape on one manufacturers plug affects removal. Cant recall it,
but Gary correct me if I'm wrong, that you preferred Champion.
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
After cleaning up my REM40E's I found 4 fairly new and 4 older so I actually ordered
4 of the 38BY's and will put them in the bottom for now to see how things
go and then change the tops at annual if going well.
I had some lead showing in 3-4 of the set of 8 but the real culprit was some oil
on the bottom plug in #2 when it was stumbling yesterday and did not run up
as expected.
Gary, can you confirm from experience which plugs are driven by which magneto on
our tigers. I'll be trying to find it else where but feeling completely beat
after work tonight. Maybe a little maint. Manual reading will revive me.
--------
1977 AA5B N28454, Fuel Totalizer, Lopresti Nose, Red Rudder Cap, 4 cyl. egt, stock
otherwise.
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
Found it, left mag. fires the lower left spark plugs of cylinders 2 and 4 and the
top spark plugs of the right side cylinders of 1 and 3 The right mag. .....I
guess that is obvious now.
I use association to remember so that would go for me anyway,
left-lower-left
I know they are two top and two bottom per mag. Just helps to know where to look
if a particular mag left or right acts up and plugs are suspect.
--------
1977 AA5B N28454, Fuel Totalizer, Lopresti Nose, Red Rudder Cap, 4 cyl. egt, stock
otherwise.
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
if they are the 37BY then they short.-=0A=0Athe other plugs, 38s/40s, hav
e a longer reach to the nut. -If you need to bend the baffles out of the
way, AT ALL, then the socket is too long. -=0A=0AI can get a socket AND m
y torque wrench onto the plug without moving the baffle. -=0A=0AIf you li
ke the long plugs, I have a whole bunch of new ones I'll make you a great d
eal on.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "jwellum@AOL.COM"
<jwellum@AOL.COM>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, N
ovember 9, 2011 11:51 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs f
or our planes these days=0A=0A=0A-=0A-=0A-=0AThis seems very strange
to me. I just installed a set of Tempest plugs in =0Aour tiger with no prob
lems accessing them. =0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0AIn a message dated 11/9/201
1 1:03:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, =0Ateamgrumman@yahoo.com writes:=0AYe
s, I prefer the Champion plugs=0A>=0A>=0A>At the 2010 Reno Air Races, I sto
pped by the Tempest booth; they had some new plugs they were show casing.
-I picked up the plug and showed Clytie (My wife) that these are the old
Autolite plugs. -Tempest bought the rights to make them and they still
didn't fix the plug length so a shorter long extension can be used. -I t
old her this is one plug I would never buy under any circumstance. -One
of the tech reps was listening; wanted to know why.=0A>=0A>=0A>I explained
to him that to reach the hex nut on the very bottom of the plug, I needed
you use a longer socket. -Problem is, the longer socket is difficult to
use on plugs #3 & #4. -He said, "Can't you can loosen the baffles and r
each the plug?" -I told him, "I'm sure there are hundred of work arounds
to make something work that wasn't designed correctly. -But, why not ju
st install a part that fits-in the first place-and doesn't need to be
worked around?"=0A>=0A>=0A>Same goes for installing anything that blocks ac
cess to the plugs, e.g., MAP tubing, EGT probes/wires, CHT wires, or Air/O
il separator hoses.=0A>=0A>=0A>I've listened to and talked to hundreds of
engineers, mechanics and pilots that would never think twice to design or
use something that needs to be 'worked around.' -A good example is the o
il pressure line on an AG5B. -Read my "Dumb Design Decisions" on my web
site.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: lmassaro <
lmassaro@tac-eng.com>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Wednes
day, November 9, 2011 6:10 AM=0A>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plu
gs for our planes these days=0A>=0A>--> =0A TeamGrumman-List message poste
d by: "lmassaro" <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>=0A>=0A>Ive =0A used fine wire plug
s on my Tiger for at least 4 years.- Never had a bad =0A runup, or any r
elated plug fouling.- I do run lean in the air and the =0A ground.=0A>Th
ey cost a (blank) load of money but I like the Ron Popeil way of =0A "set
it and forget it" aspect of them.=0A>=0A>On a related note.- I have =0A
a Cessna 172 that is a flight club rental.- Students, trainers, and the
=0A like NEVER lean.- I was having plug fouling issues at least once eve
ry =0A two weeks or so.- Put fine wires in that and not any issues since
.- =0A In my estimate, they paid for themselves in a couple of months ju
st in the =0A pain and aggravation factor of having to remove and clean pl
ugs (along with =0A the lost revenue from the non-flights).=0A>=0A>Changin
g back to the massive =0A plugs, I believe the manufacturer matters as the
plug shape on one =0A manufacturers plug affects removal.- Cant recall
it, but Gary correct me =0A if I'm wrong, that you preferred Champion.=0A>
=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic =0A online =0A here:=0A>=0A>http://forums
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
Mags cover their asses. -=0A=0ARight mag: Bottom plugs right side, top pl
ugs left side=0ALeft mag: -Bottom plugs left side, top plugs right side.
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Doug Doty <39marinette@gm
ail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, November 9
, 2011 3:15 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes
nette@gmail.com>=0A=0AAfter cleaning up my REM40E's I found 4 fairly new an
d 4 older so I actually ordered 4 of the 38BY's and will put them in the bo
ttom for now to see how things go and then change the tops at annual if goi
ng well.=0A=0AI had some lead showing in 3-4 of the set of 8 but the real c
ulprit was some oil on the bottom plug in #2 when it was stumbling yesterda
y and did not run up as expected. =0A=0AGary, can you confirm from experien
ce which plugs are driven by which magneto on our tigers.- I'll be trying
to find it else where but feeling completely beat after work tonight. Mayb
e a little maint. Manual reading will revive me.=0A=0A--------=0A1977 AA5B
N28454, Fuel Totalizer, Lopresti Nose, Red Rudder Cap, 4 cyl. egt, stock ot
herwise.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matr
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admi
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How do you get a torque wrench onto the #3 and #4 top plugs?=0A=0A=0A______
__________________________=0AFrom: Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.net>=0AT
o: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 2:52
PM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these da
ys=0A=0A=0AI have them in my plane also without any access problems.=0A-
=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm
an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jwellum@AOL.COM=0ASent: Wednesda
y, November 09, 2011 12:51 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASubjec
t: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days=0A-=0A
-=0A-=0A-=0AThis seems very strange to me. I just installed a set of
Tempest plugs in our tiger with no problems accessing them. =0A-=0A-=0A
-=0A-=0AIn a message dated 11/9/2011 1:03:13 P.M. Central Standard Time
, teamgrumman@yahoo.com writes:=0AYes, I prefer the Champion plugs=0A>-
=0A>At the 2010 Reno Air Races, I stopped by the Tempest booth; they had so
me new plugs they were show casing. -I picked up the plug and showed Clyt
ie (My wife) that these are the old Autolite plugs. -Tempest bought the r
ights to make them and they still didn't fix the plug length so a shorter l
ong extension can be used. -I told her this is one plug I would never buy
under any circumstance. -One of the tech reps was listening; wanted to k
now why.=0A>-=0A>I explained to him that to reach the hex nut on the very
bottom of the plug, I needed you use a longer socket. -Problem is, the l
onger socket is difficult to use on plugs #3 & #4. -He said, "Can't you c
an loosen the baffles and reach the plug?" -I told him, "I'm sure there a
re hundred of work arounds to make something work that wasn't designed corr
ectly. -But, why not just install a part that fits-in the first place
-and doesn't need to be worked around?"=0A>-=0A>Same goes for installin
g anything that blocks access to the plugs, e.g., MAP tubing, EGT probes/wi
res, CHT wires, or Air/Oil separator hoses.=0A>-=0A>I've listened to and
talked to hundreds of engineers, mechanics and pilots that would never thin
k twice to design or use something that needs to be 'worked around.' -A g
ood example is the oil pressure line on an AG5B. -Read my "Dumb Design De
cisions" on my web site.=0A>-=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>
=0A>From:lmassaro <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.
com=0A>Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 6:10 AM=0A>Subject: TeamGrumman-Li
st: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days=0A>=0A>--> TeamGrumman-List m
essage posted by: "lmassaro" <lmassaro@tac-eng.com>=0A>=0A>Ive used fine wi
re plugs on my Tiger for at least 4 years.- Never had a bad runup, or any
related plug fouling.- I do run lean in the air and the ground.=0A>They
cost a (blank) load of money but I like the Ron Popeil way of "set it and f
orget it" aspect of them.=0A>=0A>On a related note.- I have a Cessna 172
that is a flight club rental.- Students, trainers, and the like NEVER lea
n.- I was having plug fouling issues at least once every two weeks or so.
- Put fine wires in that and not any issues since.- In my estimate, the
y paid for themselves in a couple of months just in the pain and aggravatio
n factor of having to remove and clean plugs (along with the lost revenue f
rom the non-flights).=0A>=0A>Changing back to the massive plugs, I believe
the manufacturer matters as the plug shape on one manufacturers plug affect
s removal.- Cant recall it, but Gary correct me if I'm wrong, that you pr
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| Subject: | Re: Which plugs for our planes these days |
Wow !!! That is great... "mags cover their asses" I'll change to that for remembering.
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1977 AA5B N28454, Fuel Totalizer, Lopresti Nose, Red Rudder Cap, 4 cyl. egt, stock
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