---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/10/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days (flyv35b) 2. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days (FLYaDIVE) 3. 12:12 PM - GPS installation by Fast and Sloppy Avionics (Gary Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:38 AM PST US From: flyv35b Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days On 11/9/2011 6:30 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > How do you get a torque wrench onto the #3 and #4 top plugs? I don't have a problem with Unison (now Tempest) plugs. I typically use a universal joint at the plug socket and then an extension that extends past the baffle. You can install the socket on the plug and then put the wrench on the socket. Gary said: "I explained to him that to reach the hex nut on the very bottom of the plug, I needed you use a longer socket. Problem is, the longer socket is difficult to use on plugs #3 & #4." Depends on what socket you are using. I don't know about a Champion plug socket but here is a photo of both plug types side by side and a Craftsman and a Wright socket. The plugs are the same length but the hex is closer to the thread end on the Tempest plug. But the short Wright socket will engage either plug to the same level as shown in the other photo. It actually goes on the Tempest plug about 1/16" further. If you had an even shorter socket it would work better with the Champion plug or you could chuck the Wright socket in a lath and shorten it about 3/8" and have more clearance with the Champion plug. But I don't know of a socket that is any shorter than the Wright and hence they both work the same. Any longer socket will be problematic on BOTH plugs. Cliff ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Which plugs for our planes these days From: FLYaDIVE Cliff: I took the problem one step further. I took the Plug with the LOW mounted hex and a deep socket. I then used a CUT-OFF wheel to shorten the SOCKET to the minimum height to fit the plug. Then as OWNER ASSISTED Annuals would have it - - - This fellow who was handing me tools ALL THE TIME, got tired of searching for 1/2' Drive and 3/8" Drive and 1/4" Drive Ratchet Handles - So he gave me a gift of ONE RATCHET with ALL three drives. It is the size of a standard 3/8" Drive and works on 97.98% of the engine & baffling configurations I work on. Sorry - No pictures with me... Will try to remember to take them this weekend. Barry On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:21 AM, flyv35b wrote: > On 11/9/2011 6:30 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > >> How do you get a torque wrench onto the #3 and #4 top plugs? >> > > I don't have a problem with Unison (now Tempest) plugs. I typically use a > universal joint at the plug socket and then an extension that extends past > the baffle. You can install the socket on the plug and then put the wrench > on the socket. > > Gary said: > "I explained to him that to reach the hex nut on the very bottom of the > plug, I needed you use a longer socket. Problem is, the longer socket is > difficult to use on plugs #3 & #4." > > Depends on what socket you are using. I don't know about a Champion plug > socket but here is a photo of both plug types side by side and a Craftsman > and a Wright socket. The plugs are the same length but the hex is closer > to the thread end on the Tempest plug. But the short Wright socket will > engage either plug to the same level as shown in the other photo. It > actually goes on the Tempest plug about 1/16" further. > > If you had an even shorter socket it would work better with the Champion > plug or you could chuck the Wright socket in a lath and shorten it about > 3/8" and have more clearance with the Champion plug. But I don't know of a > socket that is any shorter than the Wright and hence they both work the > same. Any longer socket will be problematic on BOTH plugs. > > Cliff > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:56 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: GPS installation by Fast and Sloppy Avionics ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.