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1. 12:38 AM - Removing outboard wing panel (Gary L Vogt)
2. 03:44 AM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (n76lima@mindspring.com)
3. 04:52 AM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (halb221)
4. 06:05 AM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (flyv35b)
5. 11:22 AM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (n26390@AOL.COM)
6. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Removing outboard wing panel (Gary Vogt)
7. 12:16 PM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (Gary Vogt)
8. 12:16 PM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (Gary Vogt)
9. 12:55 PM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (flyv35b)
10. 08:08 PM - Re: Removing outboard wing panel (Gary Vogt)
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| Subject: | Removing outboard wing panel |
I removed all of the connections and I can't get the outboard wing panel to move
even a fraction of an inch.
Any ideas?
Gary
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
I've seen several that had corrosion in the socket joint. Penetrating oil (Mouse
Milk?), applied through the gap between the wing panels, and patience is all
I can offer.
I did some work at a shop that claimed to be Grumman experts, and they had this
rig with a SLIDE HAMMER that they claimed was the way to remove stuck wing panels.
Scared the @#$%^&* out of me. They were very proud of it.
--Bob Steward
>I removed all of the connections and I can't get the outboard wing panel to move
even a fraction of an inch.
>Any ideas?
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
If the penitrent (mouse milk) isn't working then maybe some heat lamps on
the out tube and some dry ice on the inside tube with at least two people
working the panel
to break it loose,it has been my experience once it moves lots of lube and
time will get it off. Hal B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:32 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel
> <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
>
> I removed all of the connections and I can't get the outboard wing panel
> to move even a fraction of an inch.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Gary
> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
Heat seems to help the penetrating fluid (Kroil is excellent) to wick in
to the joint. You might also try placing a 2x6 across the end of the
spar and try "bumping" it inward just a bit to loosen the bond. Would
only take 1/32" and then maybe you could rotate it.
Cliff
On 1/6/2012 4:48 AM, halb221 wrote:
>
> If the penitrent (mouse milk) isn't working then maybe some heat lamps
> on the out tube and some dry ice on the inside tube with at least two
> people working the panel
> to break it loose,it has been my experience once it moves lots of lube
> and time will get it off. Hal B
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
> To: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:32 AM
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel
>
>
>> <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
>>
>> I removed all of the connections and I can't get the outboard wing
>> panel to move even a fraction of an inch.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Gary
>> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
We did an AG5B a few years back and with a little wiggle and twist/pull it
came right off.
Roger Rucker
AA5A '78 HWO
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 3:39 am
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel
I removed all of the connections and I can't get the outboard wing panel to
move
ven a fraction of an inch.
Any ideas?
Gary
ent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
Anything with the word "hammer" in, it regarding working on planes, scares
me. -=0A=0AI'll try penetrating oil.=0A=0A=0A____________________________
____=0A From: "n76lima@mindspring.com" <n76lima@mindspring.com>=0ATo: teamg
rumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, January 6, 2012 3:39 AM=0ASubjec
t: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Removing outboard wing panel=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman
-List message posted by: n76lima@mindspring.com=0A=0AI've seen several that
had corrosion in the socket joint.- Penetrating oil (Mouse Milk?), appli
ed through the gap between the wing panels, and patience is all I can offer
.=0A=0AI did some work at a shop that claimed to be Grumman experts, and th
ey had this rig with a SLIDE HAMMER that they claimed was the way to remove
stuck wing panels.- Scared the @#$%^&* out of me.- They were very prou
d of it.=0A=0A--Bob Steward=0A=0A>I removed all of the connections and I ca
n't get the outboard wing panel to move even a fraction of an inch. =0A>Any
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
"You might also try placing a 2x6 across the end of the-spar and try "bum
ping" it inward just a bit to loosen the bond.- Would-=0A=0Aonly take 1
/32" and then maybe you could rotate it."=0A=0AI'll try it.=0A=0A__________
______________________=0A From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>=0ATo: team
grumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, January 6, 2012 5:59 AM=0ASubje
ct: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel=0A =0A--> TeamGrumma
n-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>=0A=0AHeat seems
to help the penetrating fluid (Kroil is excellent) to wick in =0Ato the joi
nt. You might also try placing a 2x6 across the end of the =0Aspar and try
"bumping" it inward just a bit to loosen the bond.- Would =0Aonly take 1/
32" and then maybe you could rotate it.=0A=0ACliff=0A=0AOn 1/6/2012 4:48 AM
b221@centurylink.net>=0A>=0A> If the penitrent (mouse milk) isn't working t
hen maybe some heat lamps=0A> on the out tube and some dry ice on the insid
e tube with at least two=0A> people working the panel=0A> to break it loose
,it has been my experience once it moves lots of lube=0A> and time will get
it off. Hal B=0A> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgr
umman@yahoo.com>=0A> To: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>=0A>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:32 AM=0A> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Remo
ving outboard wing panel=0A>=0A>=0A>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted b
y: Gary L Vogt=0A>> <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0A>>=0A>> I removed all of the
connections and I can't get the outboard wing=0A>> panel to move even a fra
ction of an inch.=0A>>=0A>> Any ideas?=0A>>=0A>> Gary=0A>> Sent from my iPa
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
2 of us tried to 'wiggle-twist' it. -It won't move AT ALL.=0A=0A=0A______
__________________________=0A From: "n26390@aol.com" <n26390@aol.com>=0ATo:
teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, January 6, 2012 11:17 AM
=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel=0A =0A=0AWe
did an AG5B a few years back and with a little wiggle and twist/pull it cam
e right off.=0A=0A=0ARoger Rucker =0AAA5A '78 HWO=0A=0A=0A-----Original Mes
sage-----=0AFrom: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0ATo: Gary L Vogt <te
amgrumman-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 3:39 am=0ASubject: T
eamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel=0A=0A=0A--> TeamGrumman-List
message posted by: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> I removed all of the
connections and I can't get the outboard wing panel to move =0Aeven a frac
tion of an inch. Any ideas? Gary=0ASent from my iPad st" target=_blank>h
ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List=0Ap://forums.matronics.c
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
On 1/6/2012 12:10 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> "You might also try placing a 2x6 across the end of the
> spar and try "bumping" it inward just a bit to loosen the bond. Would
> only take 1/32" and then maybe you could rotate it."
>
> I'll try it.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
> *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2012 5:59 AM
> *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel
>
> <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>
>
> Heat seems to help the penetrating fluid (Kroil is excellent) to wick in
> to the joint. You might also try placing a 2x6 across the end of the
> spar and try "bumping" it inward just a bit to loosen the bond. Would
> only take 1/32" and then maybe you could rotate it.
>
> Cliff
>
> On 1/6/2012 4:48 AM, halb221 wrote:
> <halb221@centurylink.net <mailto:halb221@centurylink.net>>
> >
> > If the penitrent (mouse milk) isn't working then maybe some heat lamps
> > on the out tube and some dry ice on the inside tube with at least two
> > people working the panel
> > to break it loose,it has been my experience once it moves lots of lube
> > and time will get it off. Hal B
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary L Vogt"
> <teamgrumman@yahoo.com <mailto:teamgrumman@yahoo.com>>
> > To: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> <mailto:teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>>
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:32 AM
> > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel
> >
> >
> >> <teamgrumman@yahoo.com <mailto:teamgrumman@yahoo.com>>
> >>
> >> I removed all of the connections and I can't get the outboard wing
> >> panel to move even a fraction of an inch.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Gary
> >> Sent from my bsp; -->
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List=======================
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
I said "bump" it , not hammer it. Finesse. You won't hurt the spar
with the wood against it!
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| Subject: | Re: Removing outboard wing panel |
OK, here is what I did.=0A=0A=A2 Soaked the joint as much as possible
with penetrating oil.=0A=A2=C2-Chocked the tires=0A=A2=C2-
Got a block of wood and placed it on my rolling bench/table. =C2-Covered
said block with a folded towel.=0A=A2=C2-Positioned the bench/table
such that the blocks/towel were on the leading edge, just on the edge of t
he outboard panel (OP) near the gap. =C2-Chocked said bench/table=0A=0A
=A2=C2-Located a block of wood on the bottom of the trailing edge o
f the outer edge of the middle panel so that the wing could not go down.=0A
=0A=A2=C2-Pressed on the trailing edge of the OP. =C2-Nothing.
=C2-=0A=A2=C2-Got a helper. =C2-Nothing.=0A=0A=A2=C2-Go
t another helper. =C2-Nothing.=0A=0A=A2=C2-Got large screw driver
s to cross pry the trailing edges against each other. =C2-(does that make
sense?)=0A=A2=C2-Had helpers push and pull while I pried. =C2-Go
t the panel to move about 1/8 inch.=0A=0A=A2=C2-Reversed all the bl
ocks and pry bars and started over.=0A=0A=A2=C2-Repeated the proces
s about 1000 times until the OP was able to rotate with just 4 people pushi
ng and pulling.=0A=0A=A2=C2-Hooked up a come-along to the tie down
and added just enough load to tighten the cable.=0A=0A=A2=C2-4 hour
s later, I've got the OP about 1/4 inch out. =C2-I'm exhausted.=0A=0A=0AW
hat I wrote doesn't tell the whole story, but you get the gist.=C2-=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber
.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, January 6, 2012
12:50 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing panel=0A
=0A=0AOn 1/6/2012 12:10 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:=0A> "You might also try placin
g a 2x6 across the end of the=0A> spar and try "bumping" it inward just a b
it to loosen the bond. Would=0A> only take 1/32" and then maybe you could r
otate it."=0A>=0A> I'll try it.=0A> ---------------------------------------
---------------------------------=0A> *From:* flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.c
om>=0A> *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A> *Sent:* Friday, January 6,
2012 5:59 AM=0A> *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing p
fiber.com=0A> <mailto:flyv35b@minetfiber.com>>=0A>=0A> Heat seems to help t
he penetrating fluid (Kroil is excellent) to wick in=0A> to the joint. You
might also try placing a 2x6 across the end of the=0A> spar and try "bumpin
g" it inward just a bit to loosen the bond. Would=0A> only take 1/32" and t
hen maybe you could rotate it.=0A>=0A> Cliff=0A>=0A> On 1/6/2012 4:48 AM, h
=0A> <halb221@centurylink.net <mailto:halb221@centurylink.net>>=0A>=C2- >
=0A>=C2- > If the penitrent (mouse milk) isn't working then maybe some he
at lamps=0A>=C2- > on the out tube and some dry ice on the inside tube wi
th at least two=0A>=C2- > people working the panel=0A>=C2- > to break i
t loose,it has been my experience once it moves lots of lube=0A>=C2- > an
d time will get it off. Hal B=0A>=C2- > ----- Original Message ----- From
: "Gary L Vogt"=0A> <teamgrumman@yahoo.com <mailto:teamgrumman@yahoo.com>>
=0A>=C2- > To: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A> <mailto:
teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>>=0A>=C2- > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012
2:32 AM=0A>=C2- > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Removing outboard wing pane
l=0A>=C2- >=0A>=C2- >=0A>=C2- >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted
by: Gary L Vogt=0A>=C2- >> <teamgrumman@yahoo.com <mailto:teamgrumman@yah
oo.com>>=0A>=C2- >>=0A>=C2- >> I removed all of the connections and I c
an't get the outboard wing=0A>=C2- >> panel to move even a fraction of an
inch.=0A>=C2- >>=0A>=C2- >> Any ideas?=0A>=C2- >>=0A>=C2- >> Gary
=0A>=C2- >> Sent from my bsp; -->=0A> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?
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======0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> *=0A>=0A>=0A> *=0AI said "bump" it , no
t hammer it.=C2- Finesse.=C2- You won't hurt the spar =0Awith the wood
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