---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/10/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:54 AM - Re: outboard wing panel (Curt Johnson) 2. 11:02 AM - Grumman Airfoil (Gary Vogt) 3. 11:19 AM - Re: outboard wing panel (Gary Vogt) 4. 11:53 AM - Re: outboard wing panel (halb221) 5. 09:12 PM - Re: outboard wing panel (Gary L Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:44 AM PST US From: Curt Johnson Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel Were you able to recycle the AA1 wing crate? No point in all that lumber going to waste. On 1/9/2012 7:24 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > We got the wing panel off Saturday. > > Total (working) time from moving the plane into the hangar, removing > wing-tip, removing aileron and flap, and until the outboard wing panel > was placed on saw horses: 7.25 hours. > > Wing removed and packed into a crate to and ready to send to Fletcher; > another 3 hours. > > TIme bidded and charged the customer: 4 hours. > > I'll see if all the pics will load. If not, I'll post to the > AuCountry Aviation Facebook page. > > ----------------- > > OK. It wouldn't post with 10 pics. Here are two. > > It looked like the corrosion paint ran into the gap between the spars. > It was really stuck. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:46 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Grumman Airfoil I was looking at the airfoil on a Socata Trinidad and it looks a lot like t he Grumman.=0A=0AIt's an-RA 16.3C3 airfoil. -I can't find any info on i t either ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:44 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel Yes, but, by-god that thing is heavy. -=0A=0AI'm going to build another b ox if this happens again. -But, it'll be big enough for the whole wing us ing space frame technology.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Fro m: Curt Johnson =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:52 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel=0A =0A=0AWere you able to recycle the AA1 wing crate? No point in all that lumber going to waste.=0A=0AOn 1/9/2012 7:24 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: =0AWe got the wing panel off Saturday. -=0A>=0A>=0A>Total (wo rking) time from moving the plane into the hangar, removing wing-tip, remov ing aileron and flap, and until the outboard wing panel was placed on saw h orses: 7.25-hours.=0A>=0A>=0A>Wing removed and packed into a crate to and ready to send to Fletcher; another 3 hours.=0A>=0A>=0A>TIme bidded and cha rged the customer: 4 hours.=0A>=0A>=0A>I'll see if all the pics will load. -If not, I'll post to the AuCountry Aviation Facebook page.=0A>=0A>=0A>-- ---------------=0A>=0A>=0A>OK. -It wouldn't post with 10 pics. -Here ar e two. -=0A>=0A>=0A>It looked like the corrosion paint ran into the gap b ========= ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:12 AM PST US From: "halb221" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel Gary, what was the final method used to get it apart? Hal B ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Vogt To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel Yes, but, by-god that thing is heavy. I'm going to build another box if this happens again. But, it'll be big enough for the whole wing using space frame technology. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Curt Johnson To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:52 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel Were you able to recycle the AA1 wing crate? No point in all that lumber going to waste. On 1/9/2012 7:24 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: We got the wing panel off Saturday. Total (working) time from moving the plane into the hangar, removing wing-tip, removing aileron and flap, and until the outboard wing panel was placed on saw horses: 7.25 hours. Wing removed and packed into a crate to and ready to send to Fletcher; another 3 hours. TIme bidded and charged the customer: 4 hours. I'll see if all the pics will load. If not, I'll post to the AuCountry Aviation Facebook page. ----------------- OK. It wouldn't post with 10 pics. Here are two. It looked like the corrosion paint ran into the gap between the spars. It was really stuck. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-L-======== No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01/10/12 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel From: Gary L Vogt Once I got it to move more than 1/4 inch (at the trailing edge, I just kept f looding it with lubricant. I used large (longer than 15 inches) screw driver s and pried on the top and bottom, edges taped, to work the wing back and fo rth. Once I got it to move, Clytie and I worked the Wong panel up and down w ith a come-a-long pulling slightly on the tie down. It took 4 hours to get the first 1/4 inches out. Then, another Couple of hours to work the rest of the way off. It looked like there was just a minimum amount of corrosion. It also looked l ike the corrosion paint had run between the spars ans 'glued' the spars toge ther. Gary Sent from my iPad On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:50 AM, "halb221" wrote: > Gary, what was the final method used to get it apart? Hal B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Vogt > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:16 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel > > Yes, but, by-god that thing is heavy. > > I'm going to build another box if this happens again. But, it'll be big e nough for the whole wing using space frame technology. > > From: Curt Johnson > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: outboard wing panel > > Were you able to recycle the AA1 wing crate? No point in all that lumber g oing to waste. > > On 1/9/2012 7:24 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: >> >> We got the wing panel off Saturday. >> >> Total (working) time from moving the plane into the hangar, removing wing -tip, removing aileron and flap, and until the outboard wing panel was place d on saw horses: 7.25 hours. >> >> Wing removed and packed into a crate to and ready to send to Fletcher; an other 3 hours. >> >> TIme bidded and charged the customer: 4 hours. >> >> I'll see if all the pics will load. If not, I'll post to the AuCountry A viation Facebook page. >> >> ----------------- >> >> OK. It wouldn't post with 10 pics. Here are two. >> >> It looked like the corrosion paint ran into the gap between the spars. 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