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I also had a ride in an F-16 powered by a P&W 229. Full burner takeoff. Tha
t was fun.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I rode the one in Vegas also. Great ride. Similar one at Magic Mountain i
n SoCal.
>
> From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Acceleration
>
> The best dose of acceleration I've had was on the 'Nascar roller coaster',
just up the street from the Stratosphere, Las Vegas. The linear accelerato
r shoots out through a hole in the wall, 90 degree turn, a loop and a 'verti
cal. Then it's backwards to the start. I rode it a dozen times and still c
ouldn't prepare for the 'shot'. They do it twice per ticket but my buddy (w
ho also likes 'coasters) bought the day pass. He only rode twice.
> Wish I knew how fast we were going when the 'shot' quit!!!
> Linn
>
>
> On 2/15/2012 7:06 PM, Casey Mccain wrote:
>>
>> Catapult endspeed for an F/A-18E/F at max cat (66,000lbs) with no asymmet
rical loading is 161kts. An asym level 3 shot (17,001-29,000lbs of asymmetr
ical loading) at the same weight has an endspeed of 174kts. 15-25kts of wind
across the deck is ideal, although launches with 0 wind are possible. The c
atapult stroke is indeed about 300ft, cats 3 and 4 are slightly shorter than
cats 1 and 2. The acceleration of each stroke is carefully controlled depen
ding on aircraft weight so as to not rip off the nose gear. 2.5 seconds is p
robably a good average time. There are the numbers, I don't do math in publi
c. I've never been in a dragster, but an asym 3 shot off cat 4 is something t
hat you will NEVER forget.
>>
>> LT Casey "Shackle" McCain
>> VFA-106
>> '79 AA5-B
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:27:26 PM PST US
>> From: Larry Matteo <larrymatteo@sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fw: Fw: Acceleration
>>
>> Seems to me , as usual, Ron has=C2-ALL the answers. He seems to have fo
rg
>> otten, =0Athough, that the carrier is probably doing 20 knots or so int
o th
>> e wind of, =0Alet's say=C2-another 10 to 20 knots. SO now the accelle
rati
>> on is really 0 to=C2-80 or =0A90 knots in 300 feet. What's that compu
te t
>> o?=0AIt is still conceivable that the carrier launched plane is still a
t a
>> =C2-greater =0Aaccelleration (or 'g') but it is for a much shorter pe
riod
>> .=0A=C2-Larry Matteo=0Alarrymatteo@sbcglobal.net=0A"Nothing is so
contagi
>> ous as enthusiasm."
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Acceleration |
Gary:
I did not think you were that young.
My flight was back seat F4. Korea 1973-74.
Barry
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I also had a ride in an F-16 powered by a P&W 229. Full burner takeoff.
> That was fun.
>
> Gary
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I rode the one in Vegas also. Great ride. Similar one at Magic Mountain
> in SoCal.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Acceleration
>
> The best dose of acceleration I've had was on the 'Nascar roller
> coaster', just up the street from the Stratosphere, Las Vegas. The linear
> accelerator shoots out through a hole in the wall, 90 degree turn, a loop
> and a 'vertical. Then it's backwards to the start. I rode it a dozen
> times and still couldn't prepare for the 'shot'. They do it twice per
> ticket but my buddy (who also likes 'coasters) bought the day pass. He
> only rode twice.
> Wish I knew how fast we were going when the 'shot' quit!!!
> Linn
>
>
> On 2/15/2012 7:06 PM, Casey Mccain wrote:
>
> Catapult endspeed for an F/A-18E/F at max cat (66,000lbs) with no
> asymmetrical loading is 161kts. An asym level 3 shot (17,001-29,000lbs of
> asymmetrical loading) at the same weight has an endspeed of 174kts.
> 15-25kts of wind across the deck is ideal, although launches with 0 wind
> are possible. The catapult stroke is indeed about 300ft, cats 3 and 4 are
> slightly shorter than cats 1 and 2. The acceleration of each stroke is
> carefully controlled depending on aircraft weight so as to not rip off the
> nose gear. 2.5 seconds is probably a good average time. There are the
> numbers, I don't do math in public. I've never been in a dragster, but an
> asym 3 shot off cat 4 is something that you will NEVER forget.
>
> LT Casey "Shackle" McCain
> VFA-106
> '79 AA5-B
>
>
> Time: 02:27:26 PM PST US
> From: Larry Matteo <larrymatteo@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fw: Fw: Acceleration
>
> Seems to me , as usual, Ron has=C2-ALL the answers. He seems to have forg
> otten, =0Athough, that the carrier is probably doing 20 knots or so into th
> e wind of, =0Alet's say=C2-another 10 to 20 knots. SO now the accellerati
> on is really 0 to=C2-80 or =0A90 knots in 300 feet. What's that compute t
> o?=0AIt is still conceivable that the carrier launched plane is still at a
> =C2-greater =0Aaccelleration (or 'g') but it is for a much shorter period
> .=0A=C2-Larry Matteo=0Alarrymatteo@sbcglobal.net=0A"Nothing is so contagi
> ous as enthusiasm."
>
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| Subject: | Re: Acceleration |
I was a propulsion engineer for the Air Force. Free rides.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:40 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gary:
>
> I did not think you were that young.
>
> My flight was back seat F4. Korea 1973-74.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote
:
> I also had a ride in an F-16 powered by a P&W 229. Full burner takeoff. T
hat was fun.
>
> Gary
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I rode the one in Vegas also. Great ride. Similar one at Magic Mountain
in SoCal.
>>
>> From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Acceleration
>>
>> The best dose of acceleration I've had was on the 'Nascar roller coaster'
, just up the street from the Stratosphere, Las Vegas. The linear accelerat
or shoots out through a hole in the wall, 90 degree turn, a loop and a 'vert
ical. Then it's backwards to the start. I rode it a dozen times and still c
ouldn't prepare for the 'shot'. They do it twice per ticket but my buddy (w
ho also likes 'coasters) bought the day pass. He only rode twice.
>> Wish I knew how fast we were going when the 'shot' quit!!!
>> Linn
>>
>>
>> On 2/15/2012 7:06 PM, Casey Mccain wrote:
>>>
>>> Catapult endspeed for an F/A-18E/F at max cat (66,000lbs) with no asymme
trical loading is 161kts. An asym level 3 shot (17,001-29,000lbs of asymmet
rical loading) at the same weight has an endspeed of 174kts. 15-25kts of win
d across the deck is ideal, although launches with 0 wind are possible. The c
atapult stroke is indeed about 300ft, cats 3 and 4 are slightly shorter than
cats 1 and 2. The acceleration of each stroke is carefully controlled depen
ding on aircraft weight so as to not rip off the nose gear. 2.5 seconds is p
robably a good average time. There are the numbers, I don't do math in publi
c. I've never been in a dragster, but an asym 3 shot off cat 4 is something t
hat you will NEVER forget.
>>>
>>> LT Casey "Shackle" McCain
>>> VFA-106
>>> '79 AA5-B
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 02:27:26 PM PST US
>>> From: Larry Matteo <larrymatteo@sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Fw: Fw: Acceleration
>>>
>>> Seems to me , as usual, Ron has=C2-ALL the answers. He seems to have f
org
>>> otten, =0Athough, that the carrier is probably doing 20 knots or so in
to th
>>> e wind of, =0Alet's say=C2-another 10 to 20 knots. SO now the accell
erati
>>> on is really 0 to=C2-80 or =0A90 knots in 300 feet. What's that comp
ute t
>>> o?=0AIt is still conceivable that the carrier launched plane is still a
t a
>>> =C2-greater =0Aaccelleration (or 'g') but it is for a much shorter p
eriod
>>> .=0A=C2-Larry Matteo=0Alarrymatteo@sbcglobal.net=0A"Nothing is s
o contagi
>>> ous as enthusiasm."
>>>
>>>
>>>
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