---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/21/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:37 AM - Re: Oil Consumption (flyv35b) 2. 08:17 AM - Re: Oil Consumption (923TE) 3. 10:12 AM - Re: Oil Consumption (Gary Vogt) 4. 10:38 AM - Re: Oil Consumption (Gary Vogt) 5. 11:07 AM - Flip Grommet Tool (Gary Vogt) 6. 12:01 PM - Re: Flip Grommet Tool (Gary Vogt) 7. 12:05 PM - Re: Cabin heat nylon bushings (Gary Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:18 AM PST US From: flyv35b Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Oil Consumption On 2/20/2012 6:47 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > Seals won't work on sodium filled valves. These guides are designed to > be run with a minimum clearance. Of course. I think he meant the intake valves, where they would work. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Oil Consumption From: 923TE <923te@att.net> Yes I would be most interested in sealing the intake valves but the certifie d Continentals seal both and the RV guys that are into this have sealed both . I hear that Lycon even machines the guide to fit a seal on it. Apparently with Gapless rings, you suck a lot more oil so they started using the seals Check it out here: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=69483&highlight=G apless+rings+seals&page=2 http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=56297&highlight=G apless+rings+seals See the red seal? Ned <>< On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:36 AM, flyv35b wrote: > > On 2/20/2012 6:47 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: >> Seals won't work on sodium filled valves. These guides are designed to >> be run with a minimum clearance. > > Of course. I think he meant the intake valves, where they would work. > > > >
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:00 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Oil Consumption True, but no sense in making an issue=0A=0A=0A_____________________________ ___=0A From: flyv35b =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matron ics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:36 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrum v35b =0A=0AOn 2/20/2012 6:47 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: =0A> Seals won't work on sodium filled valves. These guides are designed to =0A> be run with a minimum clearance.=0A=0AOf course.- I think he meant t - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L ======= ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:42 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Oil Consumption Kinda makes that whole 'squirting oil at the valve stem' seem silly now. -Not enough exposed to do any extra cooling.=0A=0A=0A____________________ ____________=0A From: 923TE <923te@att.net>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list@matroni cs.com" =0ASent: Tuesday, February 21, 201 2 8:16 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Oil Consumption=0A =0AYes I woul d be most interested in sealing the intake valves but the certified Contine ntals seal both and the RV guys that are into this have sealed both. I hear that Lycon even machines the guide to fit a seal on it.=0A=0AApparently wi th Gapless rings, you suck a lot more oil so they started using the seals =0ACheck it out here:=0A=0Ahttp://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread .php?t=69483&highlight=Gapless+rings+seals&page=2=0A=0Ahttp://www.van sairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=56297&highlight=Gapless+rings+ seals=0A=0ASee the red seal?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ANed=0A=0A<><=0A=0AOn Feb 21, 2012, at 7:36 AM, flyv35b wrote:=0A=0A> --> TeamGr umman-List message posted by: flyv35b =0A> =0A> On 2/20/2012 6:47 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:=0A>> Seals won't work on sodium filled valves. These guides are designed to=0A>> be run with a minimum clearance. =0A> =0A> Of course.- I think he meant the intake valves, where they woul d work.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A
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________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:44 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Flip Grommet Tool I called NMC (Nylon Molding Corporation) to order a flipping tool. -=0A =0AThe woman I talked to said they don't sell to the public. -=0AI asked for a distributor. -=0AShe said I needed to make a written request for sa les.=0AI asked how I did that.=0AShe said, "Send an email to our sales depa rtment." -Sales@NMCGroup.com=0AI said, "Can you transfer me to sales." -=0A=0AShe transferred me to sales. -Talked to a very nice lady who ema iled me a list of distributors.=0A=0AI went to their website. -Typical Co rporation that survives on government contracts and has no desire to do bus iness with the public. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:43 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Flip Grommet Tool What a crock-of-shit. -=0A=0ANMC sales gave me 6 companies to call. -No t one of them even knew what the tool was. -Not one of them was familiar with the flipping grommet.=0A=0ASo, back to NMC to see if they can make a t ool for me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Gary Vogt =0ATo: Teamgrumman List =0ASent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:07 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Flip Grommet Tool=0A =0A=0AI called NMC (Nylon Molding Corporation) to ord er a flipping tool. -=0A=0AThe woman I talked to said they don't sell to the public. -=0AI asked for a distributor. -=0AShe said I needed to mak e a written request for sales.=0AI asked how I did that.=0AShe said, "Send an email to our sales department." -Sales@NMCGroup.com=0AI said, "Can you transfer me to sales." -=0A=0AShe transferred me to sales. -Talked to a very nice lady who emailed me a list of distributors.=0A=0AI went to thei r website. -Typical Corporation that survives on government contracts and ========= ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:59 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cabin heat nylon bushings That number is no longer in service.=0A=0A=0A______________________________ __=0A From: Garner Rice =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@mat ronics.com =0ASent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:32 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGr umman-List: Cabin heat nylon bushings=0A =0A=0A =0AThe company that I bough t them from back in 2001 was Hartwell-Commercial Products. The tools came from Placentia Ca, but the main office is in Chicago. The last phone numbe r I have is 714-993-2752. The tool for the nas1368n4c is a HT-4 flipping to ol. HT-6 for the nas1368n6c. -I have bought 20 of them and loaned them ou t for those that were in need. -Needless to say, the loaners did not come back. As I get older, I cant remember who I loaned them to, but I'm sure t hose that I loaned them to, are older than I am. So the real question is fo r my older customers is, did you remember to tighten up the prop bolts befo re you put that shiney pointed thingy on the front.=0A=0AGarner=0Atic-toc -=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADate: Sat, 18 Fe b 2012 19:04:16 -0800=0AFrom: teamgrumman@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrum man-List: Cabin heat nylon bushings=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A =0A=0AGarner doesn't have one any more.=0A=0A=0A___________________________ _____=0A From: 923TE <923te@att.net>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.com" =0ASent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:15 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cabin heat nylon bushings=0A =0A=0AIt' s been about 6 years ago but as I recall Garner has a tool that he loans ou t when you get the bushings and seal material from him. The tool must have worked pretty good because I don't -remember it being a difficult repair =0A=0ANed=0A=0A<><=0A=0AOn Feb 18, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:=0A=0A=0AOK, what is the trick to getting the bushings in stalled? -I tried fabricating several different tools. -I got one of th e bushings to work. -The other 3 didn't.=0A>=0A>=0A>Is there a better sol ution for these bushings?=0A=0A=0AList" target="_blank">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0A="_bla ======== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.