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1. 12:39 PM - instrument panels (Gary Vogt)
2. 03:30 PM - Re: Tiger Mods (923te)
3. 03:36 PM - Re: instrument panels (jetinc@comcast.net)
4. 03:41 PM - Re: instrument panels (923te)
5. 07:38 PM - Re: instrument panels (jetinc@comcast.net)
6. 07:43 PM - Re: Tiger Mods (923te)
7. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Tiger Mods (Gary Vogt)
8. 08:46 PM - Re: instrument panels (Gary Vogt)
9. 09:27 PM - Re: instrument panels (jetinc@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | instrument panels |
A contrast in concept.
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Hi Richard,
I have copied this to the Team Grumman list.
The Jaguar is an engine cowling that was made available thru an STC
about 2 years ago. It was developed by Gary Vogt who has a website and a
Grumman oriented discussion list. His website is:
http://www.aucountry.com/ some pictures of the cowling:
http://www.aucountry.com/Team_Folder/Cowling_Folder/index_Cowling.html
There is a sign up link for the discussion list on his website.
The Jaguar is differnet than the LoPresti in that the LoPresti is
actually only a nose bowl replacement and not an entire cowling like the
Jaguar is. It also includes a complete set of superior aluminum engine
baffles. The Jaguar was a needed part as many of the factory cowlings
are gettig beyond repair and there were no new replacements available.
But the Jaguar is really much better than the original factory cowl as
you can gather from reviewing it on Gary's website. I think it took
about 10 years for Gary to get the Jaguar approved with countless
changes over the years of development. It greatly enhances the cooling,
speed and looks of the Tiger.
Your Fellow Grumman Enthusiast,
Ned
May I ask---what is the Jaguar referred to on your picassa sight?
Thanks again,
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
Wow! I'm glad I downgraded to Jeeps. I can only guess how expensive all that av
gear must have cost. Then again, both are very sweet panels. Gary, want to help
me design a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5?
Eddie
Former Owner: N3752W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:38:10 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
A contrast in concept.
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
Are you Fast Eddie?
If so, do you still have your Cirrus?
How would you compare your Cirrus ownership experience to your Tiger
owner experience?
ned
----- Original Message -----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
Wow! I'm glad I downgraded to Jeeps. I can only guess how expensive
all that av gear must have cost. Then again, both are very sweet
panels. Gary, want to help me design a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5?
Eddie
Former Owner: N3752W
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From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
To: "Teamgrumman List" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:38:10 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
A contrast in concept.
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
I'm fast Eddie, but not the one with a Cirrus. Not yet anyway.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "923te" <923te@att.net>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:43:56 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
Are you Fast Eddie?
If so, do you still have your Cirrus?
How would you compare your Cirrus ownership experience to your Tiger owner experience?
ned
----- Original Message -----
From: jetinc@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
Wow! I'm glad I downgraded to Jeeps. I can only guess how expensive all that av
gear must have cost. Then again, both are very sweet panels. Gary, want to help
me design a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5?
Eddie
Former Owner: N3752W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Vogt" < teamgrumman@yahoo.com >
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:38:10 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
A contrast in concept. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List
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The top cowling is hinged down the center just like the factory cowl. The si
de has 5 zus quarter turn fasteners. So to check oil is almost as fast as on
one of the factory cowls. Just open that side of the top. No problem. Only n
ow I don't get poked in the head by the factory style latch spears (rods)
My cooling improved by about 50 degrees. It went from the 380's to the 330's
. My speed has increased some. I am still doing flight testing to determine t
he speed increase.
My Tiger was already fast from all the speed mods I had done. So it makes se
nse to me that I won't see the same speed increase that the others have seen
with the Jaguar cowl. I wish speed mods were cumulative and you could count
on just adding up what each mod contributes by itself without any other mod
s having been dome but it just doesn't work that way.
The fact that I've gained about 50 degrees of cooling tells me that PART of t
he cost of that additional cooling is probably additional drag. I'm talking a
bout more cooling drag than I had before the Jaguar. If I were able to reduc
e the cooling airflow to the point that my CHT's are back to 380's then I wo
uld expect to see more speed. If done right one should be able to reduce the
air exit volume while increasing the exit velocity of the cooling air. So t
he goal would be to decrease the mass flow and increase the exit velocity. T
wo seemingly contradictory things
On the other hand, everything is finally starting to come together and I've g
ot speed and a cool running engine so perhaps leave well enough alone....
Ned
On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:58 maPM, "Richard Walden" <rwalden@sarasotagrowers.co
m> wrote:
> Thanks again Ned. The cowling looks pretty nice. Did you get the adverti
sed gain in speed and the cooling? Question=94how do you check the oi
l- remove all the screws on that side?
>
> Thanks Ned.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> From: 923te [mailto:923te@att.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:33 PM
> To: Richard Walden
> Cc: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tiger Mods
>
>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
>
>
> I have copied this to the Team Grumman list.
>
>
>
> The Jaguar is an engine cowling that was made available thru an STC about 2
years ago. It was developed by Gary Vogt who has a website and a Grumman or
iented discussion list. His website is: http://www.aucountry.com/ some pict
ures of the cowling: http://www.aucountry.com/Team_Folder/Cowling_Folder/in
dex_Cowling.html
>
>
>
> There is a sign up link for the discussion list on his website.
>
>
>
> The Jaguar is differnet than the LoPresti in that the LoPresti is actually
only a nose bowl replacement and not an entire cowling like the Jaguar is. I
t also includes a complete set of superior aluminum engine baffles. The Jagu
ar was a needed part as many of the factory cowlings are gettig beyond repai
r and there were no new replacements available. But the Jaguar is really muc
h better than the original factory cowl as you can gather from reviewing it o
n Gary's website. I think it took about 10 years for Gary to get the Jaguar a
pproved with countless changes over the years of development. It greatly enh
ances the cooling, speed and looks of the Tiger.
>
>
>
> Your Fellow Grumman Enthusiast,
>
> Ned
>
>
>
>
>
> May I ask---what is the Jaguar referred to on your picassa sight?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Richard
>
>
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thanks Ned=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: 923te <923te@a
tt.net>=0ATo: Richard Walden <rwalden@sarasotagrowers.com> =0ASent: Friday,
February 24, 2012 3:32 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tiger Mods=0A
=0A=0A=EF=BB =0AHi Richard,=0A=C2-=0AI have copied this to the Team G
rumman =0Alist.=0A=C2-=0AThe Jaguar is an engine cowling that was made
=0Aavailable thru an STC about 2 years ago. It was developed by Gary Vogt w
ho has a =0Awebsite and a Grumman oriented discussion list. His website is:
http://www.aucountry.com/=C2- some pictures of the cowling:=C2- http:/
/www.aucountry.com/Team_Folder/Cowling_Folder/index_Cowling.html=0A=C2-
=0AThere is a sign up link for the discussion =0Alist=C2-on his website.
=0A=C2-=0AThe Jaguar is differnet than the LoPresti in =0Athat the LoPres
ti is actually only a nose bowl replacement and not an entire =0Acowling li
ke the Jaguar is. It also includes a complete set of superior aluminum =0Ae
ngine baffles. The Jaguar was a needed part as many of the factory cowlings
are =0Agettig beyond repair and there were no new replacements available.
But the =0AJaguar is really much better than the original factory cowl as y
ou =0Acan=C2-gather from reviewing it on Gary's website. I think it took
about 10 =0Ayears for Gary to get the Jaguar approved with countless change
s over the years =0Aof development. It greatly enhances the cooling, speed
and looks of the =0ATiger.=0A=C2-=0AYour Fellow Grumman Enthusiast,=0ANed
=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=C2- May I ask---what is the Jaguar referred
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
I'd love to design a panel for a Jeep.=0A=0A=0A____________________________
____=0A From: "jetinc@comcast.net" <jetinc@comcast.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-l
ist@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:36 PM=0ASubject: Re:
TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels=0A =0A=0AWow! -I'm glad I downgraded
to Jeeps. -I can only guess how expensive all that av gear must have cos
t. -Then again, both are very sweet panels. -Gary, want to help me desi
gn a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5?=0A=0AEddie=0AFormer Owner: N3752W=0A=0A___
_____________________________=0AFrom: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
=0ATo: "Teamgrumman List" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Friday,
February 24, 2012 12:38:10 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panel
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
Cool! We'll talk about it in the near future. Currently working on putting an engine
together for it. Lovin' it!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
I'd love to design a panel for a Jeep.
From: "jetinc@comcast.net" <jetinc@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
Wow! I'm glad I downgraded to Jeeps. I can only guess how expensive all that av
gear must have cost. Then again, both are very sweet panels. Gary, want to help
me design a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5?
Eddie
Former Owner: N3752W
From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:38:10 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
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